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I said lets NOT limit or ban ANYTHING. So no, I don't want China to do that. I literally said the opposite.

How about we don't ban or limit anything - First sentence. Do you even read the posts?

You said you want to do everything in moderation, so what’s your complaint?

Video games aren’t among the first 1,000 things that have been limited by governments.
 
You said you want to do everything in moderation, so what’s your complaint?
That does not mean any government should do that FOR me. Too much exercise = bad. Too much sitting for ANYTHING = bad. Video games itself is not the bad thing, its the sitting.
 
Perhaps don't have kids then if you cannot do your job. If I don't do my job at work I get fired. So if you have kids and can't do your job, maybe put them up for adoption?
In China fertility is regulated by the state. When the governments want you to have 1 you cannot have 2, when the government says 2, you gotta start trying, and currently, the government mandates 3 children. If you don‘t already have the required amount of kids, abortion is illegal. If you are over your quota you get fined, jailed, force aborted and sterilized. If you mess up, you lose your job and pension.

It’s your uterus and your fecundity, but your fertility is a part of the state’s central planning to keep the population steady and manageable in China. Once you have your children, it’s your responsibility to raise them.

You really don’t have much of a choice here other than who you want to have it with. Having children outside if a wedlock is illegal too.

If you have genetic problems, you will not be allowed to get married.
 
In China fertility is regulated by the state. When the governments want you to have 1 you cannot have 2, when the government says 2, you gotta start trying, and currently, the government mandates 3 children. If you don‘t already have the required amount of kids, abortion is illegal. If you are over your quota you get fined, jailed, force aborted and sterilized. If you mess up, you lose your job and pension.

It’s your uterus and your fecundity, but your fertility is a part of the state’s central planning to keep the population steady an manageable in China. Once you have your children, it’s your responsibility to raise them.

You really don’t have much of a choice here other than who you want to have it with. Having children outside if a wedlock is illegal too.

If you have genetic problems, you will not be allowed to get married.
So the government actually tells you you MUST have a kid (or 2 or whatever)? Even if you know you will be the most horrible parent?
 
Yet another wall of text.

Why won’t you answer the simple question I asked several hours ago?

Do you believe vaccine efficacy is uniquely declining in the U.K. and Israel? Why is Fauci pushing a booster after only 5 months if the vaccines are so great?

That wall of text is called an "argument"... those links are called "sources". This is how intelligent people converse. They don't just take pot-shots at each other... you make an argument backed up by evidence. It wouldn't hurt for you to try it.

It was _you_ who had the burden of proof BTW. I stated, with evidence, that vaccines are extremely effective. You have yet to show any evidence that they are not.

No - I don't think it's uniquely declining anywhere. I never said it wasn't! The vaccines definitely decline in efficacy over time. Since you refuse to back up anything you say - I have to infer that you're talking about the reports referenced here: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...ccine-protection-waning-against-infection-not

While it says that protection against infection dropped to 53% in nursing homes (which means the vaccine cut the "expected infections" in half) and 79% in the general population... these new reports still show a VE of 86% against hospitalization, which has been fairly steady. This once again shows that you were very wrong with your (unsubstantiated) claim of 40% of people in US hospitals for COVID are vaccinated.

Do you understand what 86% means? Covid has a case fatality rate between 1%-5% ( https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality ). Even taking the bottom of that (1%) if everyone in the US got covid there would be 3.3M deaths. If everyone were vaccinated it would mean less than 462,000 people would die. That's a difference of nearly 3 _million_ people.

I don't understand how anti-vax people cannot see the enormity of a difference the vaccines can make. We've already lost over 635k people... we can drastically reduce the number still yet to die if everyone would get vaccinated!

BTW: it's not unusual for vaccines to require 3 doses... for instance, 3 doses were used for polio. Also: we all get boosters for vaccines all the time to make sure we maintain their effectiveness.
 
That does not mean any government should do that FOR me. Too much exercise = bad. Too much sitting for ANYTHING = bad. Video games itself is not the bad thing, its the sitting.

The government isn’t doing it for you. It’s doing it for everyone else. Why should responsible people have to pay for fat people’s health problems?
 
That wall of text is called an "argument"... those links are called "sources". This is how intelligent people converse. They don't just take pot-shots at each other... you make an argument backed up by evidence. It wouldn't hurt for you to try it.

It was _you_ who had the burden of proof BTW. I stated, with evidence, that vaccines are extremely effective. You have yet to show any evidence that they are not.

No - I don't think it's uniquely declining anywhere. I never said it wasn't! The vaccines definitely decline in efficacy over time. Since you refuse to back up anything you say - I have to infer that you're talking about the reports referenced here: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...ccine-protection-waning-against-infection-not

While it says that protection against infection dropped to 53% in nursing homes (which means the vaccine cut the "expected infections" in half) and 79% in the general population... these new reports still show a VE of 86% against hospitalization, which has been fairly steady. This once again shows that you were very wrong with your (unsubstantiated) claim of 40% of people in US hospitals for COVID are vaccinated.

Do you understand what 86% means? Covid has a case fatality rate between 1%-5% ( https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality ). Even taking the bottom of that (1%) if everyone in the US got covid there would be 3.3M deaths. If everyone were vaccinated it would mean less than 462,000 people would die. That's a difference of nearly 3 _million_ people.

I don't understand how anti-vax people cannot see the enormity of a difference the vaccines can make. We've already lost over 635k people... we can drastically reduce the number still yet to die if everyone would get vaccinated!

BTW: it's not unusual for vaccines to require 3 doses... for instance, 3 doses were used for polio. Also: we all get boosters for vaccines all the time to make sure we maintain their effectiveness.

Yet another wall of text in reply to a three-sentence comment.

The vaccines are crap, which is why boosters are needed after only 5 months, with future boosters presumably needed every 5 months after that. No other vaccine in history has failed this quickly.

Also, I never said 40% of current hospitalized were fully vaccinated, and Covid absolutely does not have a CFR of up to 5%. Good grief.
 
So the government actually tells you you MUST have a kid (or 2 or whatever)? Even if you know you will be the most horrible parent?
(This is not me for real, right? I’m not Chinese. I only gave you a hypothesis.)

Having to work long and hard hours is common place in China for the migrant workers, and they form the bulk of the society. Life is not ideal, and they gotta breed.

China is currently debating at the legislative level and contemplating about banning all contraceptive products for people people who don’t already have 3 children.

It abnormal generally speaking for people to stop having sex, unless they are single for prolonged period of time, so… Forced kids.

One night stand, bars and those low-life type of sex are very rare in China for cultural reasons. FWB relationships do happen infrequently among young people.
 
"Parents are busy working."

Figure out how to work AND raise your children.

This is not an either or proposition---it's your CHILDREN for God's sake---find the time to manage what they do on their devices.

If you don't make the time, you're shirking your parental duties.

But I guess some people would rather outsource their parenting responsibilities to the government.

Disgusting.
First-world privilege.
 
"Parents are busy working."

Figure out how to work AND raise your children.

This is not an either or proposition---it's your CHILDREN for God's sake---find the time to manage what they do on their devices.

If you don't make the time, you're shirking your parental duties.

But I guess some people would rather outsource their parenting responsibilities to the government.

Disgusting.
Isn't that what public schools are?
 
Hahaha, yeah because that's what I said :rolleyes:

It‘s exactly what you said:

”And if you simply adjusted diet and got ZERO physial exercise it would fix the problems with obesity. I don’t know how to make it any clearer to you.”
 
Yet another wall of text in reply to a three-sentence comment.

The vaccines are crap, which is why boosters are needed after only 5 months, with future boosters presumably needed every 5 months after that. No other vaccine in history has failed this quickly.

Also, I never said 40% of current hospitalized were fully vaccinated, and Covid absolutely does not have a CFR of up to 5%. Good grief.

Ok - no point continuing. You're just making stuff up with zero evidence. What is the point?

I can make stuff up too: I saw on Facebook that the vaccine fixes ED! You should definitely get it!

That was fun... maybe there is something to making stuff up as a form of argument.

Good day.
 
Ok - no point continuing. You're just making stuff up with zero evidence. What is the point?

I can make stuff up too: I saw on Facebook that the vaccine fixes ED! You should definitely get it!

That was fun... maybe there is something to making stuff up as a form of argument.

Good day.

What did I make up?

Covid CFR is not anywhere near 5%. It’s not even 0.5%.

You’re the one posting wildly inaccurate info.
 
Japan is a superior country to China any day of the week.

P.S. Hong Kong and Taiwan are NOT China.
Hong Kong is China since 30 Jun 2020 for most practical purposes.

Taiwan... not yet.

Japan's economic growth has been far below China for quite some time now. Sure, China's median income hasn't reached Japan's level yet. That's probably one pressure to "hunker down and work instead of fooling around". Hence the draconian restrictions on entertainment.
 
Drastic, but the rest of the world will be waiting to see how well this could workout. Apple’s parental control is not working out in China it seems.
Apple's parental control is broken for anything accessed through a web browser.
 
It‘s exactly what you said:

”And if you simply adjusted diet and got ZERO physial exercise it would fix the problems with obesity. I don’t know how to make it any clearer to you.”

Lol, because that's true. It doesn't mean that zero physical activity isn't good for you though but diet is the main contributing factor to obesity. Its not kids online playing games. But keep on trying, you are doing great.
 
I would assume like many other child protection policies reporting is a requirement to prove compliance, so it’s built into the system rather than a back door.
But that is a backdoor. The govt gets special permission to view that data, and it's not case by case, it's for every single citizen below a certain age on every online game. I don't know if that's already built in everywhere.
 
I don’t know if you are kidding but even a cursory knowledge of US history would tell you that‘s not true. Jim Crow? Johnson-Reed Act? Japanese internment camps? Chinese exclusion act? Even modern day US has some of the strictest immigration policies among developed nations.
Which developed nation has looser immigration policies? Canada and most EU nations do not. Russia does, but ehhh.
 
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Lol, because that's true. It doesn't mean that zero physical activity isn't good for you though but diet is the main contributing factor to obesity. Its not kids online playing games. But keep on trying, you are doing great.

You accused me of misquoting you, but now you‘re saying that you did say it and that it’s true? Is this some sort of weird trolling? What’s going on here? What’s the point of this?
 
You accused me of misquoting you, but now you‘re saying that you did say it and that it’s true? Is this some sort of weird trolling? What’s going on here?

No you said that I specifically said you could be healthy without physical exercise. I never said that. I said obesity stems mainly from diet because it does and that if kids changed their diet it would fix obesity. Not your strange world where taking away online gaming magically fixes childhood obesity because that somehow forces kids to eat healthy and exercise.
 
No you said that I specifically said you could be healthy without physical exercise. I never said that. I said obesity stems mainly from diet because it does and that if kids changed their diet it would fix obesity. Not your strange world where taking away online gaming magically fixes childhood obesity because that somehow forces kids to eat healthy and exercise.

Unbelievable.
 
It’s not a cop-out. Don’t like working long hours to make ends meet? Move somewhere cheaper. Learn a new skill.
"... somewhere cheaper..." often means lower salaries and less opportunities... at least pre-pandemic. That said, few have the privilege to command high salaries and work in cheaper places. Even Google's employees rights to this seems to be threatened—it's announced that the company would make "salary adjustments for remote employees".
 
YES.

In East Asian culture, the idea of vengeance is very profound. A baby child of a criminal may spend all his life rising a daughter to be a beautiful assassin to seduce and kill the Emperor. That’s just an example. Even after decades or generations of inaction, a devastating revenge can happen. Families, as in, anyone who bears the same family name, wives included, often act as a singular unit. Just like the Five Eyes, or NATO to a much lessor extent.

This is why in East Asia, criminals are killed with all their spouses, children, parents, siblings, servants and maids. This has only been relaxed after the WWII after many millennials.

Children of criminals cannot access sensitive part of a society is a residual policy of that long tradition. Voting and party membership is only a tiny part of that restriction.

They can’t become public servants and they can’t join the police or the military, etc.

They can’t get passport very easily, and are constantly screened.

They may be going through extra scrutiny when leaving one city to the other, or flying, or taking a train.

They can’t be admitted into selective university programs.

They can’t join research facilities and defence related industries, like going to Mars.

They also can’t become teachers, professors, doctors, etc.

They cannot incorporate serious businesses.

Basically, anything related to public security and trust.

They can be peasants or small tradesmen, etc.

So, when you commit a crime you have to think of your (extended) families and would be families. That has profound implications to all of them for generations.

Heck, even American companies kept asking whether I have relatives related to the Government. I had to keep asking my lawyer brother whether he has government clients at that moment.
 
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"... somewhere cheaper..." often means lower salaries and less opportunities... at least pre-pandemic. That said, few have the privilege to command high salaries and work in cheaper places. Even Google's employees rights to this seems to be threatened—it's announced that the company would make "salary adjustments for remote employees".

Right, but I wasn’t talking about tech workers. The person had mentioned people working 12-hour days in blue-collar jobs but barely getting by. Big cities in the U.S. are full of lower-skilled people who would benefit from moving to places with a lower cost of living.
 
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