Kindle Fire Will Crush Other Android Tablets, May Increase iPad Sales Say Analysts

[ryanflucas]

1.) iPad dominates.
2.) Kindle Fire is introduced.
3.) Kindle Fire burns all other Android Tablets.
4.) Android on a phone continues to suck. Eventually a different OS is introduced and takes over the smartphone realm.
5.) Kindle Fire and iPad cannibalize the market. The two end up dominating the tablet market.
6.) Eventually Google makes a deal to sell Amazon all rights to Android. Using the money raised in the deal, they move on to whatever their next big endeavor is.
7.) Amazon renames Android to AOS.

 

[Icaras]

Thats a pretty big assumption.

I for one wont ever buy an iPad (far too many restrictions).

It's in the data...PC sales going down...iPad sales going up. What is there to assume?

 

[Cinch]

4.) Android on a phone continues to suck. Eventually a different OS is introduced and takes over the smartphone realm.

I'm not so sure about this. I agree the aesthetics of Android is really bad, but the inner working is okay.

 

[ABernardoJr]

Kindle Fire is the netbook of tablets. Might be ok for awhile but then people will seek better quality version of it (iPad).

And here I was thinking that tablets were replacing netbooks. We now have the netbook of netbook-replacing tablets.

 

[APlotdevice]

Indeed... and don't forget -- ARM ones too.

Frankly I think the ARM powered W8 tablets will be far more popular than their x86 counterparts. Even with the lack of backwards compatibility. How successful they will be overall is anyone's guess.

 

[Cinch]

the disappearance of laptops

I think we are going to see the resurgence of the desktop along with tablet taking over the role of laptop. The laptop has long been the jack of all trade, but master of none. We are going to see people working using desktop computer and for content consumption and a little bit of light work tablet will meet this role. We will no longer have to carry chargers and worry about finding electrical outlet.

 

[Sardonick007]

Don't understand

I could not understand how anybody would want an iPad with it's limited (read non existent) file system, lack of flash, and garden wall mentality. So I bought a Xoom instead and marveled at the freedom and the awesomeness that was the new generation of mobile computing. Then I bought an iPad because I can, and because I don't talk about stuff I don't have any hands on experience with. The Xoom has sat on my desk since I bought it, and is still in brand new, boxed condition. I can't understand how anybody could compare any other tablet to an iPad and not immediately want the iPad. True, the Galaxy Tab is pretty snappy and all, but I've yet to see an OS that can rival iOS in terms of pure smoothness and strength. Android would be my choice for the aforementioned reasons, IF they could get their collective mess together and do what Apple does. Make 1 great product with 1 great OS that works.....every time you touch it. On the note of the fire vs the iPad debate, I get what they mean that the fire could further fragment the pool, by adding yet another piece of hardware that must be updated and accounted for in the operating system but I definitely don't get anybody that compares it to an iPad and even worse, chooses it over the iPad for any of those comparisons. The fire is an e-reader with web capability. The iPad is a mobile computing device. To me anyway.

 

[Icaras]

I think we are going to see the resurgence of the desktop along with tablet taking over the role of laptop. The laptop has long been the jack of all trade, but master of none. We are going to see people working using desktop computer and for content consumption and a little bit of light work tablet will meet this role. We will no longer have to carry chargers and worry about finding electrical outlet.

Possibly, but it's hard justify that seeing as how the Macbook Air has probably now become Apple's best selling Mac, and the Mac segment as a whole has jumped up in sales, so the market for ultra-thin light portable notebooks has increased, not decreased. Intel's soon to come "ultrabooks" are about to make a splash with PC manufacturers as well. This should seal the coffin on Netbooks though, once and for good.

 

[designgeek]

Usually I just hate these analyst articles but I love this one.

The popularity of the Kindle Fire seems to affirm Steve Jobs' belief in an end-to-end software-and-hardware ecosystem -- something that no companies other than Apple and Amazon have been able to effectively assemble.

I don't want to sound like a gushing fanboy, but Steve really got this one right. Amazon had the best shot at this since they have the ecosystem, the one thing that no one else had a chance at. RIMM and Samsung could have built brilliant hardware and either chose not to or to just steal it, but they didn't have a decent music store or app market either, and those are almost the entire reason people buy these things. Unfortunately for Amazon they blew it, they got everything else right. The Fire is a crappy piece of hardware. If they'd had a decent tablet the rest could take care of itself. It will be interesting to see how the Fire evolves.

 

[tylerk36]

I honestly think the iPad 3 will cripple the competition. They may be gaining a foothold right now but the iPad 3 will widen the gap once again.

 

[bushido]

i could never use my iPad as my main computer, my fingers already fall off after an half hour chat session ^^

 

[Cinch]

..the Macbook Air has probably now become Apple's best selling Mac, and the Mac segment as a whole has jumped up in sales..

I think you have a good point, however, I think I'm ahead of the curve here or maybe I'm just old fashion. I have never been able to see working long hours on a laptop even for just writing. Manipulating big spreadsheet is just painful on a laptop, and if you truly wanting to write I would think you would want to sit at a proper desk, secluded-away from noise.

I own a laptop for at least a decade now, and I don't think I've ever done productive work on it. Of course, there will be people who loves it, but I think they are in the small minority.

 

[wikus]

4.) Android on a phone continues to suck. Eventually a different OS is introduced and takes over the smartphone realm.

Really? I've had a better experience on my Android than any portable Apple device. I have a LOT more control and it suits MY needs (not Steve Jobs') far better.

Have you even USED an android device?

 

[matt90036]

well it depends how well amazon can work out KF bugs. if they do a sucky job at it then people migh dump Amazon ecosystem and go for something they know is solid, an iPad. If amazon can make KF as smooth as Nook and work out all the other annoying bugs then people will stay like sheep, with what they know.

 

[tylerk36]

And here I was thinking that tablets were replacing netbooks. We now have the netbook of netbook-replacing tablets.

How many netbooks do you see on sale now compared to a year ago? They seemed to basically fade away.

 

[Eidorian]

How many netbooks do you see on sale now compared to a year ago? They seemed to basically fade away.

I am seeing a lot more now. It is surprising.

Also no one ever removes the stickers from their notebooks, ever.

 

[melgross]

Heh heh!

"At the same time, JP Morgan analyst Mark Moskowitz (and the Apple executives that he met with) feel that Apple is not seeing pressure from the Kindle Fire..."

Maybe that's because the Fire has been in consumers hands for about 2 weeks?! Sheeeeeez. Let's wait a few months.




The wife has an iPad, a Kindle, and I got her a Kindle Fire ($199) the other day.

She says the Fire is awesome. I can't stress the word "awesome" enough other than bolds, italics, etc. which would be annoying. She said it's the fastest tablet-ish device she's used and thinks the browser is much better than the iPad.

2nd...she LOVES her Kindle...has owned it for 2 years I think...she's a huge book reader.

3rd...she likes the iPad...but (like me) feels browsing websites (especially shopping sites) is fair...no flash support, pull down menus/choices within the site (like a clothes store trying to choose options) is really rough. She also feels that for $500+, it's essentially an email reader and light surfing (looking up weather, reading some articles) machine...screen is too harsh on the eyes to stare at.

Maybe iPad 3 will finally get the browser right. Would be nice if the iPad 3 were significantly cheaper.

Would be nice to see a Fire that is larger more surfing use cases.

Well, other than the fact that you made this whole thing up, it's interesting. Interesting because the reviews don't agree with your statements about the Fire, or about the iPad.

 

[kurosov]

I think you have a good point, however, I think I'm ahead of the curve here or maybe I'm just old fashion. I have never been able to see working long hours on a laptop even for just writing. Manipulating big spreadsheet is just painful on a laptop, and if you truly wanting to write I would think you would want to sit at a proper desk, secluded-away from noise.

I own a laptop for at least a decade now, and I don't think I've ever done productive work on it. Of course, there will be people who loves it, but I think they are in the small minority.

I find writing on the iPad to be as deeply engrossing on the iPad as i do my mac, now made even better with iCloud support in iA Writer.

My main body of work, design and photography on the other hand is still best left to the mac with wacom combo although with the full res raw support and apps like snapseed (as long as it picks up more of the functions of the nik plugins) I can see my future upgrade to iPad 3 eating into some of the photo editing.

I have used a laptop on many projects in the past but i always found myself tethered to a cinema display with external keyboard/mouse.

 

[LagunaSol]

i could never use my iPad as my main computer, my fingers already fall off after an half hour chat session ^^

Try a Bluetooth keyboard?

 

[Navdakilla]

nice

Maybe I'll have to pick one up for christmass

 

[samcraig]

How many netbooks do you see on sale now compared to a year ago? They seemed to basically fade away.

I won't pretend to say that netbooks are nearly as popular as tablets - esp the iPad. But at the same time - the netbook serves a niche market that needs more from their computers than the iPad can provide but also do not want/need the speed/weight of a full laptop.

People can parrot back Steve Jobs' comment that netbooks don't do anything or aren't good for anything - but that's just rhetoric.

My wife, several colleagues of mine and friends of theirs use their netbooks non-stop. Would they love them to be faster. Probably. But sacrifices are made with any technology. There's no one product that satisfies every desire of every consumer.

Netbook is also merely a "name." What I mean is - if Apple or other manufacturers in the future are able to get the speed, power, and cost down low and offer it in a smaller package than a 13" computer - that will also be successful/have a nice amongst those that need more than a tablet can provide.

 

[Glideslope]

Yes, and Yes.

 

[PBG4 Dude]

I could not understand how anybody would want an iPad with it's limited (read non existent) file system, lack of flash, and garden wall mentality. [snip]

Check out iExplorer here --> http://www.macroplant.com/iexplorer/ .

No jailbreak needed and it lets you browse, get and put stuff onto your iThingy as if it were an external drive (userspace only, you don't get to see system dirs). This is free software and has both OS X and Windows downloads available.

I have nothing to do with this company, just found this program last weekend and tried it out to see if it worked (which it does).

 

[Eidorian]

Try a Bluetooth keyboard?

Might as well have it built-in at that point.

 

[MrXiro]

Kindle Fire Won't Crush Other Android Tablets, May Not Increase iPad Sales Say Other Analysts.

Who are these analyst and why the hell do we listen to them?