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Kindle Fire is the netbook of tablets. Might be ok for awhile but then people will seek better quality version of it (iPad).
I cannot believe how many times your relatively reasonable statement is being voted down on an Apple focused site. This has become the "digg" of tech news which is not a compliment by any means. Not only is your statement reasonable but it is supported by data from studies of the smart phone segment which shows a significant defection from Android handsets to iPhones as soon as Apple started offering "free" iPhone 3GS and relatively cheap iPhone 4 handsets subsidized on contract.

Android does not even have a lot of official support for syncing with macs out of the box so I cannot understand what all of the Android fans are doing on here posting and up/down voting comments.

Now that iPhones are available on all major carriers in the US other than T-mobile, it is not as if anyone does not have the opportunity to get an iPhone on their carrier now.
 
Check out iExplorer here --> http://www.macroplant.com/iexplorer/ .

No jailbreak needed and it lets you browse, get and put stuff onto your iThingy as if it were an external drive (userspace only, you don't get to see system dirs). This is free software and has both OS X and Windows downloads available.

I have nothing to do with this company, just found this program last weekend and tried it out to see if it worked (which it does).


oh yeah....like droppbox, right?:rolleyes:
 
What would then be the point of having a tablet?

Have you seen how small and light the Apple bluetooth keyboard is? Or will you never, ever purchase one of those things in your life either?

Measured and weighed together, the iPad 2 and Apple Bluetooth Keyboard still weigh less than the Macbook Air. There is still evident portable advantage for the iPad + BT keyboard.
 
Also true. One must understand that Amazon is no dumb kid. Like stated, by the time we see people wanting to transition to something better, Amazon will have that offering out there, again selling at an extremely competitive price. Then, as you have mentioned, we'll have a situation where early KF users are invested in the Amazon ecosystem creating a soft-lock in effect.

Also, as a researcher, i'd like to thank you for your last line. You just gave me a nice idea for an article. Cheers!

I'd love to see it when you write it! :)

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I honestly think the iPad 3 will cripple the competition. They may be gaining a foothold right now but the iPad 3 will widen the gap once again. :D:apple::eek::);)

OMG a 3rd generation product being better than the 1st generation product?

WOW you are so smart.
 
Well, other than the fact that you made this whole thing up, it's interesting. Interesting because the reviews don't agree with your statements about the Fire, or about the iPad.

I don't have an opinion? Only the few dozen "industry experts" have opinions about technology? Oh, I forgot...it's the few dozen industry experts that end up buying millions of devices.
 
I have used a laptop on many projects in the past but i always found myself tethered to a cinema display with external keyboard/mouse.

I have seen this clunky set up many a time, and while this may have been a good setup in the distance past, I don't see it being a popular option now. If you are aware of your work habits then you will quickly notice that a simple desktop will do the trick (99.99% of the time) and maybe even better and cost effective.

I got a feeling an iPad is a good writing tool. Thanks for the tip.
 
My dad got one recently for his 50th birthday and loves it, while it does not have the amount of Apps or features of an iPad it does what it needs to do and does it well.
 
My gf and I each picked up a Fire last week and we both love it. I've had a few Android tablets and she has an iPad. The iPad has pretty much been sitting as she is using the Fire for everything. It's easy and works very well overall and that's all I ask from a device like this. Media consumption is great as I use Netflix and Hulu on mine along with Amazon videos. I loaded music into Amazon Cloud and put a couple of movies onto the device memory. It plays just fine with my Macbook Pro and I find myself using it more than other tablets I've owned.
They aren't going to out spec these new Android tablets coming out, but the price is right, it's super easy and it's a name people know. That's all many people want.
 
My gf and I each picked up a Fire last week and we both love it. I've had a few Android tablets and she has an iPad. The iPad has pretty much been sitting as she is using the Fire for everything. It's easy and works very well overall and that's all I ask from a device like this. Media consumption is great as I use Netflix and Hulu on mine along with Amazon videos. I loaded music into Amazon Cloud and put a couple of movies onto the device memory. It plays just fine with my Macbook Pro and I find myself using it more than other tablets I've owned.
They aren't going to out spec these new Android tablets coming out, but the price is right, it's super easy and it's a name people know. That's all many people want.

I LOVE my Fire. It's a great device. Too many haters here
 
hmmm...

I think you have a good point, however, I think I'm ahead of the curve here or maybe I'm just old fashion. I have never been able to see working long hours on a laptop even for just writing. Manipulating big spreadsheet is just painful on a laptop, and if you truly wanting to write I would think you would want to sit at a proper desk, secluded-away from noise.

I own a laptop for at least a decade now, and I don't think I've ever done productive work on it. Of course, there will be people who loves it, but I think they are in the small minority.

I guess it is what you're used to, I am on the flip side of the iMac verses Macbook Pro, I prefer the portability of the book. $.02 :) :apple:
 
My dad got one recently for his 50th birthday and loves it, while it does not have the amount of Apps or features of an iPad it does what it needs to do and does it well.

When VLC becomes available for Android (because its in the works), I wonder if the Fire will be able to connect to a hard drive connected to an airport extreme base station;

ACCESS TO MY MEDIA! I have 2TB of movies and music, it'd be an amazing way to play stuff on a small tablet.
 
door stop...

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I think you have a good point, however, I think I'm ahead of the curve here or maybe I'm just old fashion. I have never been able to see working long hours on a laptop even for just writing. Manipulating big spreadsheet is just painful on a laptop, and if you truly wanting to write I would think you would want to sit at a proper desk, secluded-away from noise.

I own a laptop for at least a decade now, and I don't think I've ever done productive work on it. Of course, there will be people who loves it, but I think they are in the small minority.

That was what I was implying

Flash in the pan. My netbook is essentially a door stop and collector of dust. :D
 
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When VLC becomes available for Android (because its in the works), I wonder if the Fire will be able to connect to a hard drive connected to an airport extreme base station;

ACCESS TO MY MEDIA! I have 2TB of movies and music, it'd be an amazing way to play stuff on a small tablet.
I coughed up the ~$5 for Diceplayer. I never use it but it is nice to have. Though like I said, I do not use it. That makes me a reckless consumer with a record $7 spent on Android system software.
 
I coughed up the ~$5 for Diceplayer. I never use it but it is nice to have. Though like I said, I do not use it. That makes me a reckless consumer with a record $7 spent on Android system software.

Then the app side of the problem is covered.

Is it still possible to connect to the airport extreme's USB Hard Drive?
 
"At the same time, JP Morgan analyst Mark Moskowitz (and the Apple executives that he met with) feel that Apple is not seeing pressure from the Kindle Fire..."

Maybe that's because the Fire has been in consumers hands for about 2 weeks?! Sheeeeeez. Let's wait a few months.




The wife has an iPad, a Kindle, and I got her a Kindle Fire ($199) the other day.

She says the Fire is awesome. I can't stress the word "awesome" enough other than bolds, italics, etc. which would be annoying. She said it's the fastest tablet-ish device she's used and thinks the browser is much better than the iPad.

2nd...she LOVES her Kindle...has owned it for 2 years I think...she's a huge book reader.

3rd...she likes the iPad...but (like me) feels browsing websites (especially shopping sites) is fair...no flash support, pull down menus/choices within the site (like a clothes store trying to choose options) is really rough. She also feels that for $500+, it's essentially an email reader and light surfing (looking up weather, reading some articles) machine...screen is too harsh on the eyes to stare at.

Maybe iPad 3 will finally get the browser right. Would be nice if the iPad 3 were significantly cheaper.

Would be nice to see a Fire that is larger more surfing use cases.

My wife likes her fire too. Having used it and my iPad for a while, I doubt very many people would agree with your browser conclusion. Silk is a decent browser and performs well, particularly for what the device is. What it does not do is out perform safari on the iPad 2.

I don't mean to disparage the fire at all, I think it is a great device.
 
For those who have mentioned Flash or the lack of Flash on the iOS. Please read the press release from Adobe.

Flash on mobile devices is no longer being developed.
 
It's in the data...PC sales going down...iPad sales going up. What is there to assume?

Last time i checked, PC sales were still up. As for growth, it is decreasing. Then again, thats a natural effect in saturated markets. Will tablets see significant growth in the next five years? Damn straight. Will Apple take the lion share of this growth? Remains to be seen - personally, i doubt it.

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Frankly I think the ARM powered W8 tablets will be far more popular than their x86 counterparts. Even with the lack of backwards compatibility. How successful they will be overall is anyone's guess.

In the consumer market, absolutely. Unless, of course, Intel manages to pull an ace out of its sleeve. Then again, x86 is their golden goose, and for the foreseeable future they will use that to extract premium rents. As such, its uncertain to which degree they will want to compete with ARM on price -- and if they're not gonna compete on price, perhaps they're better off pushing hard on functionality and performance.
 
I think you have a good point, however, I think I'm ahead of the curve here or maybe I'm just old fashion. I have never been able to see working long hours on a laptop even for just writing. Manipulating big spreadsheet is just painful on a laptop, and if you truly wanting to write I would think you would want to sit at a proper desk, secluded-away from noise.

I own a laptop for at least a decade now, and I don't think I've ever done productive work on it. Of course, there will be people who loves it, but I think they are in the small minority.

Many years ago, I switched to a laptop exclusively. Not because I wanted to work on a laptop all day, but because I needed my computer with me 24/7. When I am at work, I have a large screen, laser mouse, Time Capsule and internet, that I plug in dutifully every morning. I feel like I am working on an iMac when I am at work. Even at work, I sometimes unplug the laptop, take it to meetings, use the wireless internet and have my office with me in a form I am used to working with. When I leave I take my office with me in the form of the laptop. When I get home, I turn it on and access it through my iMac. The only time I use the display, keyboard and keypad of the laptop is on a plane or elsewhere when I need to access my office files away from home or the office. The ability to have everything with me at all times is of incredible importance. The convenience of working with a desktop like environment is important when I am at work or home. I get the best of all worlds with one computer and a few peripherals.
 
Possibly, but it's hard justify that seeing as how the Macbook Air has probably now become Apple's best selling Mac, and the Mac segment as a whole has jumped up in sales, so the market for ultra-thin light portable notebooks has increased, not decreased. Intel's soon to come "ultrabooks" are about to make a splash with PC manufacturers as well. This should seal the coffin on Netbooks though, once and for good.

completely different price points on netbooks v. ultrabooks. quite possibly, arm-based laptops in form of ultra-net-books will do the trick. Hybrids too will make a dent in that market; look for example at the new transformer - seems like a nice piece of machine.
 
My dad got one recently for his 50th birthday and loves it, while it does not have the amount of Apps or features of an iPad it does what it needs to do and does it well.

Exactly...and no disrespect to the iPad, but nobody every said the Kindle Fire was going to compete against the iPad on every feature/use case.

And I am CERTAINLY NOT stating the iPad is terrific. In my opinion, taking everything into consideration (cost, ease of use for all features, features I use, features missing, etc), the iPad is a 7 on my scale of 1-10. Some of the main reasons are: cost ($500+), cannot sync with iPhoto, Photo Album/slideshow has limited features, virtual keyboard is pretty good but not great, no storage for my non-music/non-movie files (I get tons of email attachments such as PDF or Excel), no USB port for attaching universal items such as camera or hard drive). Those are some of my complaints. Some of my kudos are: nice email layout, nice overall touchscreen usability, nice battery life, vibrant screen, lots of apps to download, lightweight.
 
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