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They were given clearance to fly in less than normal conditions.
Which then brings up an entirely new issue. There may not necessarily be clear cut rules when it comes to whether or not a helicopter should be in the air. (As I mentioned before...in my area...fog is not a factor in grounding helicopters. The only reason helicopters don't fly in my area...during severe thunderstorms, VERY strong wind events, and during major snowstorms). But we also don't have mountains, hills, or skyscrapers to worry about. Without those...fog doesn't present much of a hazard when in the air, since there's nothing for you to hit. That may be different in as you get closer to the suburbs closer to the city that have taller buildings and then in the city where there are skyscrapers. But where I live...at the height helicopters fly...there isn't anything tall enough to fly into. All of our buildings, power line poles, water towers, etc...are below the minimum flight height. Therefore, flying in foggy conditions isn't as much of a risk.

Even if there aren't clear cut regulations on flying in poor weather...someone still has to make a judgement call. The police made a judgement call to ground their helicopters due to that same fog. Whereas whoever authorized Kobe's helicopter to takeoff...also made a judgement call and deemed it appropriate to fly. If there aren't clear cut regulations...there probably will be soon.
 
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A couple things -

There are requirements for VFR, SVFR, and IFR flights. From what I’ve seen this pilot departed with a SVFR clearance, which meant weather was below VFR conditions but still met the visibility requirement for SVFR.

Fog can still be a factor whether or not there are terrain issues, especially so for a non-instrument rated pilot flying VFR and then encountering IFR conditions. It can be disorientating and this is not the first time something like this has happened. I think this pilot was IFR rated but if they encountered fog or weather suddenly, or it was worse than they initially thought, it could easily lead to a dangerous situation.

I am not an expert in aviation, nor a pilot. But there are a lot of things that ultimately are up to the pilot‘s best judgement, because they’re the only ones sitting in that seat and know their capabilities, the aircraft’s capabilities, and their surroundings.
 
It makes me wonder, being this was Kobe’s personal helicopter, did the pilot maybe make the cautionary note to not fly the helicopter due to poor visibility? Or did Kobe over-ride the warning [If there was any warning or if Bryant can even make such a suggestion to do so?]. I wonder if there is any data recording? (Like a Black-box recorder).
 
It makes me wonder, being this was Kobe’s personal helicopter, did the pilot maybe make the cautionary note to not fly the helicopter due to poor visibility? Or did Kobe over-ride the warning [If there was any warning or if Bryant can even make such a suggestion to do so?]. I wonder if there is any data recording? (Like a Black-box recorder).
This was exactly one of my first thoughts.
 
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It makes me wonder, being this was Kobe’s personal helicopter, did the pilot maybe make the cautionary note to not fly the helicopter due to poor visibility? Or did Kobe over-ride the warning [If there was any warning or if Bryant can even make such a suggestion to do so?]. I wonder if there is any data recording? (Like a Black-box recorder).
I am also wondering this, but also ATC has final say in if they fly or not.
 
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The nine victims (6 adults, 3 teens):

John Altobelli, 56, baseball coach​
Keri Altobelli, wife of John - they leave a son J.J. and a daughter Alexis​
Their daughter Alyssa Altobelli, 13​
Kobe Bryant, 41 - he leaves wife Vanessa and 3 girls: Natalia (17), Bianka (3), Capri (7 months last week)​
Kobe's daughter Gianna Bryant, 13​
Sarah Chester, 45, former teacher - she leaves a husband Chris and sons Hayden and Riley, both 16​
Sarah's daughter Payton Chester, 13​
Christina Mauser, 38, girls basketball coach - she leaves a husband Matt and 3 children​
Ara Zobayan, 50, pilot​
 
It makes me wonder, being this was Kobe’s personal helicopter, did the pilot maybe make the cautionary note to not fly the helicopter due to poor visibility? Or did Kobe over-ride the warning [If there was any warning or if Bryant can even make such a suggestion to do so?]. I wonder if there is any data recording? (Like a Black-box recorder).
THOUGHT this one was a rental/lease? Kobe's helicopter seems to be black.
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It makes me wonder, being this was Kobe’s personal helicopter, did the pilot maybe make the cautionary note to not fly the helicopter due to poor visibility? Or did Kobe over-ride the warning [If there was any warning or if Bryant can even make such a suggestion to do so?]. I wonder if there is any data recording? (Like a Black-box recorder).
This was exactly one of my first thoughts.
I am also wondering this, but also ATC has final say in if they fly or not.

External pressures on a pilot is a big deal. They can’t override the pilot, but whether it was Kobe or any of the passengers putting pressure to go or the charter company saying go, it’s huge pressure and hampers the ability to say no.Can be a classic case of this. A pilot without these influences will normally say no. But put fear of losing job, pay, etc the judgement can be compromised.

Not looking up the actual weather, but the flight could have gone under IFR if the pilot was rated for it.
 
Communications between the helicopter and the flight controllers:


Somebody captioned the video with the phrase "You're too low" but it was actually a message from flight controllers that the flight was "too low for flight following," a procedure where flight controllers help with navigation.
 
Communications between the helicopter and the flight controllers:


Somebody captioned the video with the phrase "You're too low" but it was actually a message from flight controllers that the flight was "too low for flight following," a procedure where flight controllers help with navigation.

That is eerie to listen to, knowing what is about to happen.
 
THOUGHT this one was a rental/lease? Kobe's helicopter seems to be black.
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That appears to be a Sikorsky S76 and the tail number also matches reports. It sounds like the crash was most likely due to pilot error due to poor visibility as a result of bad weather.

Incredibly tragic accident. My heart goes out to all those affected, the Bryant family and families of the multiple children and parents on board.
 
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That is eerie to listen to, knowing what is about to happen.

Yeah, I remember hearing a recording in the '80s of a reporter saying, “Oh my god, we're going to hit” just as the chopper she was in went into the Hudson. I think they only played it once or maybe twice, as no one survived. It was very disturbing.
 
It makes me wonder, being this was Kobe’s personal helicopter, did the pilot maybe make the cautionary note to not fly the helicopter due to poor visibility? Or did Kobe over-ride the warning [If there was any warning or if Bryant can even make such a suggestion to do so?]. I wonder if there is any data recording? (Like a Black-box recorder).

Fog was really bad in parts of Southern California the last few days. On the ground I could not see a couple of hundred feet ahead of me the other day. 60 MPH with the poor visibility the fog caused would be a recipe for disaster flying at low altitude at the speed they were flying at. I read online that the chopper hit the ground/mountain at 184 MPH take or give and pretty much exploded on impact. The pilot was also supposedly told that he was flying too low. Another thing is I can’t figure out why the person at the tower gave them permission to fly with such poor visibility.

May those that passed away RIP. RIP Kobe :(
 
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Fog was really bad in parts of Southern California the last few days. On the ground I could not see a couple of hundred feet ahead of me the other day. 60 MPH with the poor visibility the fog caused would be a recipe for disaster flying at low altitude at the speed they were flying at. I read online that the chopper hit the ground/mountain at 184 MPH take or give and pretty much exploded on impact. The pilot was also supposedly told that he was flying too low. Another thing is I can’t figure out why the person at the tower gave them permission to fly with such poor visibility.

May those that passed away RIP. RIP Kobe :(

Just crazy. They said the helicopter was on a consistent dive at 4000 ft./per min, those numbers are hard to even comprehend.

But I agree with what MacNut posted earlier, the helicopter should have never left the ground, especially when the LA Sheriffs Dept. grounded their aircrafts.

Edit:

ESPN is re-playing Kobes last game from 2016. [I watched it live in 2016 and watching it again.] Nice tribute from ESPN.
 
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Just crazy. They said the helicopter was on a consistent dive at 4000 ft./per min, those numbers are hard to even comprehend.

But I agree with what MacNut posted earlier, the helicopter should have never left the ground, especially when the LA Sheriffs Dept. grounded their aircrafts.

Edit:

ESPN is re-playing Kobes last game from 2016. [I watched it live in 2016 and watching it again.] Nice tribute from ESPN.

I don't know for sure but it does seem like pilot was a bit on the way too low, low side before the crash and if you add poor visibility due to heavy fog means things don't look good. Very sad and tragic accident. Either an accident happened causing some sort of malfunction on the chopper or the pilot and whoever was in charge at the tower made quite a few mistakes which lead to this tragedy. One of 3 scenarios took place.
 
Why didn't he? The Pilot was rated to fly by instruments and the helicopter was equipped for it.
My guess is that Zobayan wanted to fly under the fog layer, which can't be done on instruments. The paper said that the fog resulted from a "deteriorating cold front passing through the area with moist northwest flow, which caused low clouds to pile up against the northern slopes."

The worst thing I've heard today is that they've recovered only three bodies so far, which means that the others must not be intact. That's horrible. I feel most sorry for the remaining Altobelli kids, since they lost both parents and a sibling.
 
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Yeah, I remember hearing a recording in the '80s of a reporter saying, “Oh my god, we're going to hit” just as the chopper she was in went into the Hudson. I think they only played it once or maybe twice, as no one survived. It was very disturbing.

Oh... that would be very chilling to hear also. Listening to the home recordings for those who were on any of the flights during 9/11 or for those who were trapped in the tower. Chilling.
 
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