Kuo: 2021 iPhone With Touch ID Power Button to Feature LCD Display

[MacRumors]

Apple plans to release an iPhone with a Touch ID power button on the side of the device in the first half of 2021, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

In a research note with TF International Securities, obtained by MacRumors, Kuo has now revealed that the iPhone will feature an LCD display, further suggesting that it will be a lower-cost model. Last month, Kuo claimed the device will lack Face ID, allowing it to have a nearly edge-to-edge design with a smaller notch.

Kuo said the fingerprint solution will be capacitive and sport a "new design" for an improved user experience, but he did not elaborate.

Last month, Kuo claimed that the so-called "iPhone SE 2 Plus" will feature a 5.5-inch or 6.1-inch display, suggesting that its size will fall somewhere between the iPhone 8 Plus and the iPhone 11. The device could complement higher-end iPhones with both Face ID and under-display Touch ID in Apple's 2021 lineup.

Article Link: Kuo: 2021 iPhone With Touch ID Power Button to Feature LCD Display

 

[darcyf]

No kidding

 

[mkoesel]

iPhone Air?

 

[dannyyankou]

So kinda like the Galaxy S10E now

 

[reden]

I hope this is real. Personally I think face ID is not the best user experience.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

I can't envision a TouchID sensor on the side of the phone. There's not room for it on the side, unless it's the finger-slide type of sensor.
Also, if it's on the side, it may not be easy to use with either hand, perhaps just with the right hand.
Kuo's report makes no sense, at least for now.

 

[TacoChowder]

I can't envision a TouchID sensor on the side of the phone. There's not room for it on the side, unless it's the finger-slide type of sensor.
Also, if it's on the side, it may not be easy to use with either hand, perhaps just with the right hand.
Kuo's report makes no sense, at least for now.

Phones have fingerprint readers on their side already

 

[wowotoe]

Face ID is not working well in China or Asia now. People wearing mask to prevent coronavirus and need to risk their lives to expose their faces to unlock the phone.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

I hope this is real. Personally I think face ID is not the best user experience.

I use FaceID on a 2018 iPad Pro and it works perfectly. It even works in the dark.
Perhaps you need to re-register your face, and try again.

TouchID doesn't work well if your finger is wet.

 

[Stromos]

I can't envision a TouchID sensor on the side of the phone. There's not room for it on the side, unless it's the finger-slide type of sensor.
Also, if it's on the side, it may not be easy to use with either hand, perhaps just with the right hand.
Kuo's report makes no sense, at least for now.

True but ummm how about the fact that you won't have a case on the phone unless it has a huge hole in the side for your finger? I mean its not terrible on the Pixel with a hole in the back but a hole on the side just seems awkward.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

Face ID is not working well in China or Asia now. People wearing mask to prevent coronavirus and need to risk their lives to expose their faces to unlock the phone.

They can use their PIN in the meantime.
Soon they will be using gloves too, so TouchID will become useless to them until this virus outbreak stops.

 

[decisions]

So this is the SE2? A notchless, TouchID-enabled phone that is small relative to the other models?

 

[Amazing Iceman]

True but ummm how about the fact that you won't have a case on the phone unless it has a huge hole in the side for your finger? I mean its not terrible on the Pixel with a hole in the back but a hole on the side just seems awkward.

Good point. I didn't think of that, but it makes sense. The best location for TouchID besides the home button would be behind the display.

 

[Kagio]

Hope on getting a 2020 iPhone 12 with underscreen touch id = 2% ..

God, we all hate the notch, some people "don't care" but nobody LIKES it, who would'nt rather a clean screen keeping everything else constant?

Just go with clean screen and huge underdisplay touch id for the "Pro" iPhone! 😭
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And why is your finger wet? what % of times is it wet vs % of times you SEE the huge notch + % times its flat on a table and you HAVE to pick it up for FACE ID to see you?

I use FaceID on a 2018 iPad Pro and it works perfectly. It even works in the dark.
Perhaps you need to re-register your face, and try again.

TouchID doesn't work well if your finger is wet.

 

[gridlocked]

I can't envision a TouchID sensor on the side of the phone. There's not room for it on the side, unless it's the finger-slide type of sensor.
Also, if it's on the side, it may not be easy to use with either hand, perhaps just with the right hand.
Kuo's report makes no sense, at least for now.

I've thought the same thing but several android phones have that today - I've just never used it.

It works fine on the back so I'm not sure what the advantage is on the side. It can't possibly get a full print.

 

[Quicksilver867]

Need that under screen TouchID 🔥

 

[mi7chy]

Instead of on only one side like on the Galaxy S10e Apple should put it on both sides to make it ambidextrous and for stronger MFA with two different fingerprints.

 

[JPack]

Makes sense from a cost perspective. This is the SE2 Plus.

Cutting a notch or teardrop in the LCD glass reduces yield significantly. It's much easier to cut on flexible OLED film. But this model uses LCD. A fingerprint sensor also costs less than the IR camera and dot projector setup.

 

[lamanzana]

Face ID is not working well in China or Asia now. People wearing mask to prevent coronavirus and need to risk their lives to expose their faces to unlock the phone.

I guess you could argue the same inconvenience with people wearing gloves in very cold places. In the case of the people covering their faces maybe they can workaround by using the Passcode. Maybe ideal would be to have both! TouchID and FaceID and have them work together for a more secure and convenient experience.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Face ID is not working well in China or Asia now. People wearing mask to prevent coronavirus and need to risk their lives to expose their faces to unlock the phone.

No they don’t. They need to use their passcode.

 

[lkalliance]

Instead of on only one side like on the Galaxy S10e Apple should put it on both sides to make it ambidextrous and for stronger MFA with two different fingerprints.

Man, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

 

[iSayuSay]

I use FaceID on a 2018 iPad Pro and it works perfectly. It even works in the dark.
Perhaps you need to re-register your face, and try again.

TouchID doesn't work well if your finger is wet.

1. Face ID sensor on the iPad Pro flushed with the bezel, hence it isn't as ugly as the one in the iPhone.
2. Yep, Touch ID wouldn't work with wet fingers. But Face ID wouldn't work with face that doesn't get in line either.

I could unlock with Touch ID while I lift the phone, or getting it out of my pocket. Couldn't do that with Face ID.

There is always trade offs, but Touch ID is the simply a better, and faster biometric.

 

[lkalliance]

I haven't played around with Android phones with side-mounted fingerprint unlock, but as I imagine what is being described, this works against the thing I like most about the current Touch ID compared to Face ID. Touch ID is a very purposeful action: placing your thumb (or whatever finger) on the home button. This feels to me like not a casual action, it's a purposeful one (though still very convenient). Glancing at the phone, or holding the phone normally and a side button picking up the fingerprint...these are casual actions that might unlock the phone without you wanting or realizing it.

I prefer it the way it is now: convenient but less likely to be accidental. It makes me feel more in control of the phone.

EDIT: This just occurred to me too (though this is further down my list of important factors, just something that touches on another thing that disturbs me): I do understand that Apple has made it very difficult to spoof either a fingerprint or a face to unlock a phone. BUT...if there ever IS to be some kind of successful and widely-implementable spoof, then certainly getting an image of my face would be easier than getting an image of my fingerprint.

This tangentially hits on something that really annoys and sometimes upsets me. I don't post much at all on the Web, particularly not photos of myself. But there are plenty of family members and friends that DO post pictures of me (and other family members and other friends, etc.). They can then tag those photos. Or Google tags them automatically for them. This is all outside the realm of my control. Irks me no end.

 

[darcyf]

Face ID is not working well in China or Asia now. People wearing mask to prevent coronavirus and need to risk their lives to expose their faces to unlock the phone.

Is that supposed to be funny?

 

[Braderunner]

Face ID is not working well in China or Asia now. People wearing mask to prevent coronavirus and need to risk their lives to expose their faces to unlock the phone.

Yes! They have no choice! They are forced to risk their lives to unlock their iPhone! Face ID is now as dangerous as the coronavirus!