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Kuo: 2024 MacBook Pro Models to Feature 3nm M3 Pro and M3 Max Chips
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Here's the exclusive scoop on the specific chips* that will be used in upcoming releases:
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- Next refresh (1-3 years from today): M4 Pro / M4 Max.
- Following refresh (1-3 years later): M5 Pro / M5 Max.
- Following refresh (1-3 years later): M6 Pro / M6 Max.
- Following refresh (1-3 years later): M7 Pro / M7 Max.
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The M3 cycle should begin towards the end of the year if they're keeping with the ~16-18 month cycle they have been using since the A10X. Nov 2020 (M1) - June 2022 (M2) - Oct-Dec 2023 (M3). Hopefully we will see at least a 3nm M3 MacBook Air before the end of 2023...
Does anyone know if the new m2 pro and max machines can run Monterey? I'm avoiding Ventura like the plague.
Unlikely, generally you can't use an earlier version than the one the machine ships with.
That's what I figured. I know on Intel boxes you can use the -no_compat_check or other patches to boot an earlier kernel but with Apple Silicon, I don't know if that would work or not, or if the kernel thread scheduler or GPU drivers etc., for Monterey is set up to accomodate M2 Pro/Max.
Since I don't like Ventura, I'm going to hold off on a mac mini purchase for now...
Excellent. Will be updating my MacBook Pro 2017 once the M3 Max models are released.
Curious what in particular is putting you off Ventura, poor optimisation/ performance, or design e.g. the mess with System preferences/ settings? (this may be pertinent for me with the upcoming 15" Air, not that I'll have a choice of OS until version 14 arrives!)
Notable only because this came from a reputable source. Otherwise pretty much anyone could call this one.
This will be the first time that we get to see a big upgrade within Apple Silicon. So far, Apple Silicon HAS been the big upgrade.
Will be awesome to see what a smaller node means. Will Apple make chips the same size as current, meaning more CPU and GPU cores. How many more?
Will battery life still go up because of more efficiency, even though more transistors will be fitting in the same space?
What kind of numbers will we see compared to M2 family?
Exciting times. 3nm is going to be a big tell to the future of Apple Silicon and what big updates will look like.
Also, Mac Pro does not need a fancy named chip. It just needs 3nm chips with tons of configurable options with varying amounts of CPU and GPU cores, alongside support for huge amounts of RAM.
Will be awesome to see what a smaller node means. Will Apple make chips the same size as current, meaning more CPU and GPU cores. How many more?
Will battery life still go up because of more efficiency, even though more transistors will be fitting in the same space?
What kind of numbers will we see compared to M2 family?
Exciting times. 3nm is going to be a big tell to the future of Apple Silicon and what big updates will look like.
Also, Mac Pro does not need a fancy named chip. It just needs 3nm chips with tons of configurable options with varying amounts of CPU and GPU cores, alongside support for huge amounts of RAM.
I sure hope so. This transition has been chaotic. A regular update cycle will provide certainty for buyers and will ensure that ASi keeps up with the competition. I don't see any way ASi stays relevant if they are doing some 18 month upgrade cycle. They'll just fall behind. AMD has been kicking it and Apple really needs to stay on it if they want to compete.
Well, if M3 debuts in Fall 2023, it will be 3nm as well
It's true we were all suspicious of 2022 lack of products, and why it was taking so long for Mac mini's to be updated as well as other models. I assume M1 iMac 24" will be updated in April 2023 as everything else is now M2 something. M3 updates make a logical progression next year.
Takes no insider info to make these "predictions" is why.
He's no fortune teller. At best he reads the room.
I thought he'd largely given up on Apple predictions and was broadening his "gifts". Seems like he needs the recognition and adulation MacRumors gives him
His track record on actual releases is nowhere near as good as you might believe.
The broad brush (which let's face it, any regular Apple reader or user could make) are fairly good.
His more specific "predictions" have been quite hit and miss. Like a guess that sometimes pays off.
What is accurate is his ability to scare people off by always predicting something bigger/better/faster is coming on the day of a release. Why do that?
More criminal was the lack of an M1 iPad mini.
Cant be able to run all features of latest OS.
They gave it all the styling of the Air but piked out of the processor
A Magic Keyboard, while cramped, would have made this the ultimate travel companion.
Cant be able to run all features of latest OS.
They gave it all the styling of the Air but piked out of the processor
A Magic Keyboard, while cramped, would have made this the ultimate travel companion.
Folks like Kuo typically are intentionally leaked to by firms like Apple. Standard marketing to stimulate industry buzz and keep users expectations reasonably in line with what is coming.