Kuo: All iPhone Models in 2018 Likely to Abandon Fingerprint Recognition

[turbineseaplane]

If this is true, I will be using my existing SE for a long long time.

Perfect device for me.
Absolutely zero desire for anything physically larger and I actually use the 3.5mm jack a *ton*

 

[Böhme417]

That's what they said about TouchID

What did they take away when they added Touch ID?

 

[Regime2008]

What did they take away when they added Touch ID?

Bingo, this guy gets it.

 

[Beeplance]

TouchID is one of my favorite features.

Apple has a remarkable history of removing users' favourite features though...

 

[bambooshots]

No Thanx! I will NEVER buy a Face-ID device.
Don't shoe-horn things into consumers faces that they've never asked for and don't take away things they care deeply about. Enjoy the free-slide in sales. It may not be immediate, but it will be profound.

And how many customers asked for TouchID?

I sure didn't, mostly due to poor finger print scanning tech until Apple released TouchID.

This is great news! Innovate, Apple!

As this tech proliferates, the costs will be driven down.

Win win all around!

 

[flat five]

You joke, but in the unlikely event that Face ID doesn't catch on AND Samsung can pull off under the screen FPS, it could be a massive turning point.

you don't think Apple could put touchID under screen?

also, just btw.. as a user experience, touchID under screen isn't any different than touchID as it is today.. you might not have the bezel at the bottom or a hole in the display but that would be the feature.. the fingerprint sensor wouldn't be anything new or wow..

not really sure why some people are so hyped up about touchID under display.. like, when you use it, do you think you'd be like "wow, this is so awesome.. way better than before!" ... or would it be like "hmm.. pretty much the same thing as i've been doing for the past few years"..

point being -- touchID button = touchID under display
(imo)

or- what, exactly, is there to gain from touchID under screen?

 

[i.mac]

No Thanx! I will NEVER buy a Face-ID device.
Don't shoe-horn things into consumers faces that they've never asked for and don't take away things they care deeply about. Enjoy the free-slide in sales. It may not be immediate, but it will be profound.

One person does not like face id without even trying the technology.

Conclusion: Apple is doomed.

 

[flat five]

I think they’ve done a lot more testing than that. Likely with internal users for over a year. I don’t see them introducing something this radical without having gone through all possible use cases, and deciding it’s better overall than TouchID.

right.. internally, they thought it was awesome..
now they know externally that it is too.

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edit--
for clarity..
i was saying what i originally said in relation to the rumor trail.. (ie- the part where i said "if this rumor is true").. the original rumor by this guy was that Apple would put faceID in all future phones if it were accepted by users.. now the story has changed to "Apple will be putting it in all future phones"

so, again, speaking of the topic in particular, the only thing between then and now was that new, external users, have been able to try the X.

 

[symphony]

Can someone silence him please? It’s completely obvious that everything he says comes true.

If we get rid of him, then maybe all the speculations he says won’t come true. We have to cut the source.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Faceid doesn't solve any problems for the user. Apple will surely get it to work eventually but it will not be a big selling point over systems based on fingerprint recognition.

I beg to differ. Wet fingers is a huge issue, especially while cooking.

 

[Danoc]

TouchID is one of my favorite features.

FaceID will be your favorite feature.

 

[Boardiesboi]

I find it amusing that people reject Face ID before they’ve tried it first hand in day to day use. Reading about how it works might be different to how it works in real life, for different people.

Try out the technology for a week or two and see if it fits your routine. Then complain and moan about it if you think Touch ID is better.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

What did they take away when they added Touch ID?

The frustration of having to type a 4 digit passcode. FaceID will take away the frustration of having to limit myself to 5 fingers per device or having wet fingers.

 

[Ntombi]

Face-ID is obnoxious and always gets in your face. Touch-ID never got in the way of using the iPhone and is very passive.

I would argue that Face ID is more passive than Touch ID: Touch ID requires that you actively place a particular finger in a particular spot at a particular time. Face ID just needs you to be looking at your phone’s screen, which you’ll almost certainly be doing anyway.

If it works as many have said, it’ll unlock almost instantaneously, and you can swipe up before it’s done.

The only time Face ID requires more conscious thought than Touch ID is during an Apple Pay transaction, because you’ll have to click the side button (IIRC) to approve it. I appreciate that, as I don’t want to inadvertently approve a payment. But even that isn’t onerous.

 

[wikiverse]

samsung scratching their plans to put a fingerprint under the screen now.

No they're not. Putting a fingerprint reader under a display is the first step to putting ANY sensing technology under a display - including IR sensors and a camera.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Can someone silence him please? It’s completely obvious that everything he says comes true.

If we get rid of him, then maybe all the speculations he says won’t come true. We have to cut the source.

“If we stop those scientists from releasing satellite images, maybe the the world will go back to being flat.”

 

[ani4ani]

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[manni]

Couple thoughts:

1) Apple must be very confident in this feature. This could be very damaging if this doesn't catch on.

2) Apple has done this in the past. Removed the floppy disk, removed the CD drive, removed the 3.5mm jack, etc. Some of those have seen history prove Apple was right. Some Apple is still trying to prove was the right move. Touch ID will definitely be added to that list, time will tell which way it is viewed.

This is an unusually balanced and sensible post on this issue! So often it is either - Apple is getting everything wrong or Apple has done everything right always.

It still isn't clear how removing the headphone jack will be viewed. Removing it doesn't actually help anything, phones can be waterproof even with it. I really don't know whether in a decade everyone will have bluetooth headphones, will be interesting to see. They were right on the floppy drive. They went to drop optical drives a bit quicker than many wanted but it was right in the end although in general they have been wrong in assuming all professionals would be happy with fewer ports and expandability and just be happy to use consumer devices - apparently they are now reversing course on the Mac Pro, we shall see.

Your first point is spot on - Apple must be confident. And it's worth remembering that touch ID was improved quite quickly with an updated version. Apple may well already have Face ID mark II coming through the pipeline and be getting good results. I also think they will see this as something that will integrate with the home kit type devices and ultimately be used more by business, security firms and medical companies for ease of use and also to avoid touching things. If your ID can be confirmed through a glass screen etc, or as you walk up to the car, or as you enter the room, well it's easy to see that this is a technology that might help Apple continue to integrate iOS tech with other devices. If it is as accurate as Apple says then it's not hard to imagine sooner or later it will be used to solve crimes too. I say all this as someone who likes Touch ID but in the long run think there will be benefits to not having to touch a screen and apple tends to be good at refining things.

 

[jimbobb24]

Hope my iPhone 8 lasts forever.

 

[Cosmosent]

I see two possibilities here:

1.) Apple still hasn't been able to get Touch ID under Glass to work to their satisfaction, so "maybe" they have abandoned it, AND/OR

2.) Apple's Upper Mgmt decided to go with Face ID simply because it offers a "perceived" improved product differentiation, vs Android (& thus may enable them to charge more vs the competition, assuming their Marketing Army can pull it off; i.e., convince everyone that Face ID is the way to go).

I for one am totally against the transition away from Touch ID, and I believe it is a looming catastrophe for Apple ... yet Kuo, and others, have run with it, WITHOUT even using it themselves ... what does that tell you ??? ... to me, that Kuo is being fed Propaganda from Apple's Upper Mgmt !

Kuo has clearly become a Stooge of Apple these past few months ... crystal clear to me ! ... to others as well, it appears.

Kuo should be thrown under the bus for selling out !

 

[chetttos]

Next year OEMs selling point : we kept the Fingerprint Scanner!

 

[webbuzz]

Not surprised if they do.

 

[lip008]

This makes no sense to me unless Apple is using this as the wink wink method to cave to government pressure for device access. What is someone going to do? Close their eyes with a squinted "no device access for you" when you have 3 cops or agents holding you down? Unless their is something up their seeve I'm just shocked by this...

 

[MickPaddy]

No Thanx! I will NEVER buy a Face-ID device.
Don't shoe-horn things into consumers faces that they've never asked for and don't take away things they care deeply about. Enjoy the free-slide in sales. It may not be immediate, but it will be profound.

Take a deep breath.

 

[Zackmd1]

If this comes true then F** YOU Apple... As many others have stated, not a fan of FaceID. And before people jump on my case about judging it before I use it, the fundamental premises of how the technology works, no matter how accurate, is far LESS convenient then TouchID plain and simple.