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Can we really take this guy seriously? Less than a week ago, according to him, everyone else was 2-2.5 years behind Apple in face recognition who have yet to release anything. Now, according to him, every flagship, over the next 6-9 months will be offering their own version? So everyone now caught up?
say what?
where are you getting this info?
 
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Faceid doesn't solve any problems for the user. Apple will surely get it to work eventually but it will not be a big selling point over systems based on fingerprint recognition.
No but it solves the problem for Apple where the courts/police can force iPhone owners to use their fingerprint to unlock their device.
Come on people, see this for what it really is - another attempt by Apple to preserve user security above All Things foreign and domestic...
 
Half the time I unlock my phone before it's even pointed at my face. This just feels like an inconvenient compromise for not having a good place for a fingerprint scanner.

I used to think like that too. But what’s the point of unlocking it before it’s at your face if you’re not going to use it before you look at the screen? It’s not that serious.

There was honestly one real life scenario where Touch ID would be more useful for me and that’s when I’m driving. Sometimes my girlfriend has my phone while I’m driving and I can just extend my hand over and unlock it for her without even taking my eyes off the road. I honestly cannot think of another scenario where I would miss Touch ID, but this is my experience and I’m sure other people will have their own.

Will I miss the way I unlock in the car, sure. But is it a negative thing, not really. It’s a meh whatever kind of thing, because it’s not really a big of a deal.
 
I do think Face ID will work well but I am a little skeptical.

There are plenty of situations where I am trying to discreetly check my phone (movie theater, conference room, driving) where a clear view of my face may not exist.

The real test will be if it works from a few feet away. I don't see why it wouldn't, as Kinect can ID you from across the room. But we'll have to see how Apple's implementation works.
 
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"All of the iPhones Apple plans to produce in 2018 are likely to abandon the Touch ID fingerprint sensor in favor of facial recognition, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo told investors in a note sent out this evening."

How does it go... Duh?

Well...that was an easy call. So obvious, when one finally undserstands Apple's long-term strategy.

Hopefully people can move on from thinking that TouchID under the screen was really the Plan A goal for the X.
 
This makes no sense to me unless Apple is using this as the wink wink method to cave to government pressure for device access. What is someone going to do? Close their eyes with a squinted "no device access for you" when you have 3 cops or agents holding you down? Unless their is something up their seeve I'm just shocked by this...
huh?
cops won't, on the spot, physically force you to unlock the phone with faceID (or touchID.. same difference.. along with any other biometric type security)..
they'll get a warrant.. if the warrant is issued then you must comply or you will be forced to..

if you're worried about the scenario you describe, use only a passcode.. cops can't force you to self-incriminate from your mind.. you have no legal obligation to provide a passcode that's stored in your brain nor can you be forced to give it. (you know.. 5th amendment )

or, use faceID.. when the feds show up, disable faceID.. ie- turn off the phone.. or two side buttons.. or get a few false reads which will switch to passcode mode..
 
"All of the iPhones Apple plans to produce in 2018 are likely to abandon the Touch ID fingerprint sensor in favor of facial recognition, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo told investors in a note sent out this evening."

How does it go... Duh?

Well...that was an easy call. So obvious, when one finally undserstands Apple's long-term strategy.

Hopefully people can move on from thinking that TouchID under the screen was really the Plan A goal for the X.

Well to be fair, even according to Nostro.....I mean Kuo, less than a month before Apple announced FaceID, even he was still talking about Apple and underscreen Touch
 
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Two ways I think FaceID can be better than TouchID.
1. Of course, unlock when your finger is wet.
2. While driving with my phone in car holder, I can call Siri with commands that only work with the phone unlocked (check reminder, email, search web, etc). Before, I had to carefully put my finger to the TouchID. Now, I can just keep driving and just glance over to the phone for it to unlock.

Of course, there are more benefits to using TouchID, but I'd give FaceID a try before ditching it.
 
There was honestly one real life scenario where Touch ID would be more useful for me and that’s when I’m driving. Sometimes my girlfriend has my phone while I’m driving and I can just extend my hand over and unlock it for her without even taking my eyes off the road.

A different scenario, and true, probably minor annoyance: outdoor activities. Say jogging, skiing, can unlock the phone without taking off sunglasses/goggles. True, with TouchID, need to remove gloves to get to sensor, but out for a run, now have to take off and on sunglasses anytime want to access something on the device.
 
Well that means there’s no SE 2 coming
The SE occupies the lowest price point, and Apple isn’t going to kill their margins by adding cutting edge technology. So I don’t see an SE 2 getting OLED or FaceID in 2018, maybe an A10 (& 3GB?) to give it two more years of selling life, but what else could they add? True tone display I guess, and maybe camera upgrade(s). Bump it to $399 while continuing to sell the current SE for another year, maybe with a small price cut to $329 or so.

However, an X version of the SE makes no sense to me; it would cost what, $799? $899?—killing the group of SE buyers who like it because it’s $349—and it would have a larger physical screen, affecting the group who buy it because they like the reachability of the 4” screen.

That restricts the potential market mostly to those who like the physical size (pocket-ability) of the SE. And how many of those folks are willing to pay $799-$899 for it?
 
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Well to be fair, even according to Nostro.....I mean Kuo, less than a month before Apple announced FaceID, even he was still talking about Apple and underscreen Touch

And that's because he hadn't a clue about Apple's long-term strategy, despite all the clues. Rather, he was focused on a simple piece of technology, TouchID, which would not further Apple's much larger goal, AR.
 
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You joke, but in the unlikely event that Face ID doesn't catch on AND Samsung can pull off under the screen FPS, it could be a massive turning point.

No it won’t be a massive turning point. Being able to do it is one thing, but being able to do it with high level of speed, accuracy and security like Apple Touch ID is another... I have no doubt someone else will do this first, but it won’t really be that great.
 
Well to be fair, even according to Nostro.....I mean Kuo, less than a month before Apple announced FaceID, even he was still talking about Apple and underscreen Touch

Kuo told the world back in July 2017 there would be no Touch ID for the OLED iPhone.

Anybody who was talking in-display Touch ID after that was just wishing for something that wouldn't come true. We're seeing the same thing today; posters wishfully thinking in-display Touch ID would come in 2018.

Ming-Chi Kuo Predicts iPhone 8 Will Omit Touch ID Entirely, Come in Limited Color Options
 
Two ways I think FaceID can be better than TouchID.
1. Of course, unlock when your finger is wet.
2. While driving with my phone in car holder, I can call Siri with commands that only work with the phone unlocked (check reminder, email, search web, etc). Before, I had to carefully put my finger to the TouchID. Now, I can just keep driving and just glance over to the phone for it to unlock.

Of course, there are more benefits to using TouchID, but I'd give FaceID a try before ditching it.

You don’t think in this scenario it could have locked out, I.e requiring a passcode because of “seeing” passenger(s) faces unwittingly?
 
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