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No Thanx! I will NEVER buy a Face-ID device.
Don't shoe-horn things into consumers faces that they've never asked for and don't take away things they care deeply about. Enjoy the free-slide in sales. It may not be immediate, but it will be profound.

So. Much. This. The new MBP has no Magsafe... WHY WHY WHY would they take away Magsafe?!?
 
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Touch ID is a LOT more convenient, including unlocking my phone slyly during business meetings, as one example. Can't do that if I'm reliant on phone ID.
 
Touch ID is a LOT more convenient, including unlocking my phone slyly during business meetings, as one example. Can't do that if I'm reliant on phone ID.

huh.. It's onlocked if you in any way look at the phone, you just have to swipe up an inch on the screen to then go past notifications (even that probably can be bypassed in settings), even sideways. You use your phone "slyly without looking at it at all... Man, what the hell are you people even saying. Did you even watch people use it!
 
You handle your phone while you're cooking? Like looking at recipes or something? Regardless... germs!

Don't you sanitize your phone? You do realize that it's one of the most unsanitary things we handle daily right?
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Are you serious? They could have allowed more fingers in a heartbeat.
They could have, but we are still stuck at 5 even after 4 years. Whether the constraint is artificial or not, its still there.
 
Right.. Before the last few years (S7, S8), THIS "MYTH" was ACCURATE: aka, not a myth.
OLED didn't emerge fully formed, it was initially extremely inaccurate and a hot mess.
Apple would not have used their own buyers as guinea pigs for 3-4 years, but Samsung did.

You do know where the hell you're posting! Are you just here to push buttons?
The one that looks blinkered by bias IS YOU.

Even now, the real world advantage of OLED vs LED are very very small even if you use the most accurate settings on the S8 (especially with the Iphone 8 having true tone). One the reason for that is that black point on a device often used in difficult lighting conditions that adversely affects contrast (outside, screen facing lighting) is less important that ability to fight off these lighting conditions with low reflectivity in the screen and high emissivity (high level of nits).

That's one part of the reason why Samsung's love of curved screens which introduce a hell of lot of reflexions is so stupid. It negates all OLED advantages and create a huge ass bezel of reflexion on the sides.

The biggest advantages of OLED are in fact not visible and are probably why Apple is using it. It takes a lot less space inside enabling more space for components. The power savings are a wash on a white screen but significant on a dark screen. Considering Apple didn't really enable a dark mode; that last consideration doesn't seem to be involved in their choice.

Displaymate said the S6 had the best phone display ever (at the time).

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S6_ShootOut_1.htm

And Note 4 beat iPhone 6/iPad Air 2.

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S6_ShootOut_1.htm

But you're right, they probably don't know as much as you either.
 
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Displaymate said the S6 had the best phone display ever (at the time).

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S6_ShootOut_1.htm

And Note 4 beat iPhone 6/iPad Air 2.

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S6_ShootOut_1.htm

But you're right, they probably don't know as much as you either.
I mentioned this earlier, and some folks just can't handle the truth. They start mentioning how many shares they own with apple, because that somehow correlates to knowing about displays on phones??? I wish all displays used OLED. Someone needs to make a really nice curved 34" 3440x1440 OLED monitor, with a high refresh rate, and I'd ditch mine in a heartbeat!
 
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I mentioned this earlier, and some folks just can't handle the truth. They start mentioning how many shares they own with apple, because that somehow correlates to knowing about displays on phones??? I wish all displays used OLED. Someone needs to make a really nice curved 34" 3440x1440 OLED monitor, with a high refresh rate, and I'd ditch mine in a heartbeat!

I've realised that around here whatever Apple marketing say is believed to the letter. And it's one of the reasons Apple users get called "sheep" and insulted all the time. So now Apple are using OLED it's all of a sudden "good enough", but until now it sucked... :rolleyes:

I've only ever used iPhones since the 3G and have an iPad 2 and iPad Air 2 so on other phone forums I spend half the time defending my decisions, I come here and feel the Apple fanboys are just as bad as the Android haters. Somewhere in the middle there are plenty of normal people I hope. :)
 
I've realised that around here whatever Apple marketing say is believed to the letter. And it's one of the reasons Apple users get called "sheep" and insulted all the time. So now Apple are using OLED it's all of a sudden "good enough", but until now it sucked... :rolleyes:

I've only ever used iPhones since the 3G and have an iPad 2 and iPad Air 2 so on other phone forums I spend half the time defending my decisions, I come here and feel the Apple fanboys are just as bad as the Android haters. Somewhere in the middle there are plenty of normal people I hope. :)

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Like, like, like, like, like.
 
..superficial as ****.
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Thanks for that informative reply.
Rhetorical questions tend to get such replies.
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Geez.... after 10 years of home button ..... yeah..... it will function exactly how you expect it.... :confused:

What part of £1150 , which becomes £1350 with AC+ is not a factor ? I laugh when people ignore the two major issues with this phone , no home button and the cost.

How the phone feels in hand....wtf? Serious, missing all the point here .... don't worry just buy it and show it off to everyone ;)
Yeah, the missing home button is really everybody's concern here. Which is why nobody at all has mentioned it in this thread here so far.
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I've realised that around here whatever Apple marketing say is believed to the letter. And it's one of the reasons Apple users get called "sheep" and insulted all the time. So now Apple are using OLED it's all of a sudden "good enough", but until now it sucked... :rolleyes:
Look at all the independent display comparisons between LCD iPhones and OLED Samsung Galaxy and Note phones. OLED had a black level (and based on that contrast) advantage for a long time. But in other areas like colour accuracy the iPhone screens were ahead. As much as we can infer from the information available, the OLED screen in the iPhone X has closed that gap.

When Apple says that this display is better than the previous iPhone displays, I do believe them. There is no logical reason why they would switch to an OLED display (that costs them about twice as much) if it weren't better.
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And since fingerprint readers belong in the past....why did Apple release more devices with them, just the other day? All of their latest laptops have them as well. Your current phone and computer are outdated and suck too based on your comment. Shrugs.
The rumours have been very clear that the components needed for FaceID are in very short supply. And you are wondering why Apple hasn't moved all its new products to FaceID in one fell swoop. You are probably also wondering why Apple released the iPhone 5C without fingerprint sensor alongside the 5s with fingerprint sensor.
 
Look at all the independent display comparisons between LCD iPhones and OLED Samsung Galaxy and Note phones. OLED had a black level (and based on that contrast) advantage for a long time. But in other areas like colour accuracy the iPhone screens were ahead. As much as we can infer from the information available, the OLED screen in the iPhone X has closed that gap.

When Apple says that this display is better than the previous iPhone displays, I do believe them. There is no logical reason why they would switch to an OLED display (that costs them about twice as much) if it weren't better.

I did link in my previous post, in response to a rant against me by someone else, a detailed review stating that out of the box the Samsung's are oversaturated but Displaymate (the guys who make the gear to measure accuracy) rated the S6 the best mobile display available in "Basic" mode. Better than the iPhone or iPad LCD displays of the time. This use of basic mode has been known for a long time, the S6 is also 2.5yrs old, a long time in consumer electronics.

I didn't check previous versions of the OLED displays but like I said in my original post on the matter - there's a lot of myths perpetuated by Apple fans, of which I am one, about the superiority of Apple. I just don't like false information.
 
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When Apple says that this display is better than the previous iPhone displays, I do believe them.

Well, we've never heard them say anything is worse than the previous version! :)

But sure, it's better than their previous LCD displays in various ways.

There is no logical reason why they would switch to an OLED display (that costs them about twice as much) if it weren't better.

Perhaps we should define "better". There's lots of reasons why Apple would've gone to OLED from LCD:
  • Better contrast
  • Power savings
  • Thinner
  • Lighter
  • Less susceptible to drop damage
  • Would have worked with behind-display TouchId
  • Possibly easier to notch out and curve edges
OLED is also still improving, while LCD tech might have peaked.

So basically Apple had no choice, if they wanted to continue to give better technology.
 
Likewise I am not willing to buy a device with FaceID. I think the technology is useless. I cant think of any instances where FaceID can be more useful than TouchID. If Apple tries to force users to use FaceID only then I will try to use the older models as long as possible and after that I will change to Samsung.
 
I did link in my previous post, in response to a rant against me by someone else, a detailed review stating that out of the box the Samsung's are oversaturated but Displaymate (the guys who make the gear to measure accuracy) rated the S6 the best mobile display available in "Basic" mode. Better than the iPhone or iPad LCD displays of the time. This use of basic mode has been known for a long time, the S6 is also 2.5yrs old, a long time in consumer electronics.

I didn't check previous versions of the OLED displays but like I said in my original post on the matter - there's a lot of myths perpetuated by Apple fans, of which I am one, about the superiority of Apple. I just don't like false information.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10685/the-iphone-7-and-iphone-7-plus-review/2

I know it is a year old, but Anandtech has not reviewed the iPhone 8 yet. In all colour-related metrics the iPhone comes out in first place and not just barely. In brightness, the iPhone 7 comes first as well with the 7 Plus a bit behind. Only in black level (and as an extension contrast) are they not at the top.
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Well, we've never heard them say anything is worse than the previous version! :)

But sure, it's better than their previous LCD displays in various ways.



Perhaps we should define "better". There's lots of reasons why Apple would've gone to OLED from LCD:
  • Better contrast
  • Power savings
  • Thinner
  • Lighter
  • Less susceptible to drop damage
  • Would have worked with behind-display TouchId
  • Possibly easier to notch out and curve edges
OLED is also still improving, while LCD tech might have peaked.

So basically Apple had no choice, if they wanted to continue to give better technology.
Meaning you agree that the iPhone X display will be better than the iPhone 8 display. By how much and in which categories still has to be determined but at all likelihood it will be better in most of the categories you have listed (Apple stated a much better contrast ratio).
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Likewise I am not willing to buy a device with FaceID. I think the technology is useless. I cant think of any instances where FaceID can be more useful than TouchID.
Your pretending to be stupid isn't really convincing. Everybody who has used TouchID knows that it doesn't work with gloves or wet fingers. You can claim all you want that you are not aware of this, but it just makes you look insincere.
 
Likewise I am not willing to buy a device with FaceID. I think the technology is useless. I cant think of any instances where FaceID can be more useful than TouchID. If Apple tries to force users to use FaceID only then I will try to use the older models as long as possible and after that I will change to Samsung.

Go figure, they're not FORCING you to use anything. I mean, you said yourself that you're not willing to buy a device with FaceID. Have fun with whatever device suits you best. Keep in mind, however, fingerprint sensors are going to be around forever on cell phones.
 
Likewise I am not willing to buy a device with FaceID. I think the technology is useless. I cant think of any instances where FaceID can be more useful than TouchID. If Apple tries to force users to use FaceID only then I will try to use the older models as long as possible and after that I will change to Samsung.

Apple wants you to look at your face like 50 times everyday even when you are drunk
 
Did we really need such a thorough authentication, I do not think. We must know how to curb the ardor of technology. Already the smartphone already occupies too much room in our lives ......
In short, to go back to FaceID, I maintain that it brings nothing more than TouchID, except these disadvantages: that we can no longer unlock an iPhone placed on a table / desk without bending over ...


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Likewise I am not willing to buy a device with FaceID. I think the technology is useless. I cant think of any instances where FaceID can be more useful than TouchID. If Apple tries to force users to use FaceID only then I will try to use the older models as long as possible and after that I will change to Samsung.
Who will also move to the same tech

Sorry but face ID is the future
 
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