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If Face ID is the future, and Touch ID is old tech, why have Apple only just put Touch ID on the MacBooks?

The MacBooks are immediately out-of-date now going by this article.
Umm, because manufacturing technology isn't magic?

And the nature of technology is the minute it's released, it's out of date?
 
Is this not misleading due to the screen width of the iPhone 6/7/8 being the same as the X? So if you watch a movie which isn't stretched to fit then that dimension will be the limiting factor. 16:9 ratio content will look the same size even on the larger X as it does on the 6/7/8 - except you get more black space at the ends, or you expand content, lose top and bottom and gain a notch? While the phone itself is larger in every dimension and quite a bit heavier. It doesn't seem you're gaining a great deal for all the flash (and cost) with the X.
16:9 content will always be better on 6/7/8.. regular or plus models.
that's because the screens themselves are 16:9..
also, old movies or tv shows will generally be better on phones prior to iPhone X (the closer you get to a square aspect ratio, the better it will be on iPhone Plus vs iPhone X.. regular sized iPhones will be moreorless equal to the X as far as physical size of content appearing on the screen)


most (by far) movies are shot wider than 16:9 and they'll adapt the the X better.. especially the real wide movies like the Wonder Woman example.. (meaning- they'll adapt better to iPhone X if compared to any previous iPhone)

where the X (and other recent elongated phones such as S8) will really shine is with the modern format of 18:9.. (or 2:1).. it seems these phones were built with that ratio in mind.. many of today's 'prestige' TV shows are shot this way like House of Cards, Transparent, Stranger Things, Fargo, etc.

for example, here's Stranger Things on iPhone X:

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..it fits perfectly in between the notch and the margin on the other end.

in other words, iPhone X is to 18:9 as 8+ is to 16:9..

or, the ratio of the X appears to be built perfectly around this ratio.. it will perform better with cinema movies and worse with 16:9 content..
whereas previous phones are built perfectly around 16:9 ratio.. except they perform worse with 18:9 and even worse again with cinema.

if you only watch 16:9 or squarer, then the previous phones will fare better with these sizes..
if you're viewing more modern content, these new style phones are more versatile and you'll always be getting a better view with them.. and the occasional worse view when going back to something more square.
 
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If Face ID is the future, and Touch ID is old tech, why have Apple only just put Touch ID on the MacBooks?
The MacBooks are immediately out-of-date now going by this article.
That allows Apple to "replivate" vs. innovate: replicate everything across platforms for the sake of replicating which carries them through 2025:
• FaceID on Mac(Book)
• a mouse on an iDevice
• Siri/Lightning on a MacBook
• TouchBar on an iDevice
• Lost headphone jack on Mac(Book)
• Bottom-side charging connectors or a travel-less, or rubberized keyboards everywhere
 
Soo....out of curiosity, how many people have watched this video of FaceID? If you look carefully, the lock seems to shake, as if it rejected his face, two different times, before finally unlocking. After seeing this, it makes me embrace my fingerprint sensor so much more.

 
Soo....out of curiosity, how many people have watched this video of FaceID? If you look carefully, the lock seems to shake, as if it rejected his face, two different times, before finally unlocking. After seeing this, it makes me embrace my fingerprint sensor so much more.

I only saw it do it the once - at 0:43.
 
Soo....out of curiosity, how many people have watched this video of FaceID? If you look carefully, the lock seems to shake, as if it rejected his face, two different times, before finally unlocking. After seeing this, it makes me embrace my fingerprint sensor so much more.
With many people around I can imagine that FaceID has a hard time being challenged by all surrounding faces (particularly with Asian characteristics carrying a perceived near-similarity)
That may be one of the practical, unforeseen issues that render even a promising technology worthless...
 
Well, with soo many people around I can imagine that FaceID has a hard time being challenged by 45 surrounding faces (particularly with Asian characteristics that may carry a particular near-similarity)
That may be one of the practical, unforeseen issues that render even a promising technology worthless...
I can see so many scenarios where fingerprint unlocking would work better. Imagine going to concerts, or just any crowded areas, and your phone trying to pick up random people's faces around you. Even if FaceID could mature over time to be able to unlock just as fast as touchID, I'd still go for TouchID as it uses less battery and just seems to be more convenient based on what other users have mentioned in various scenarios.
 
And that swipe up to unlock?
Could easily be an option to automatically go to home screen icons after unlock, just like how resting your finger on touchID opens the iPad without need for pressing the button.
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I can see so many scenarios where fingerprint unlocking would work better. Imagine going to concerts, or just any crowded areas, and your phone trying to pick up random people's faces around you. Even if FaceID could mature over time to be able to unlock just as fast as touchID, I'd still go for TouchID as it uses less battery and just seems to be more convenient based on what other users have mentioned in various scenarios.
It doesn’t need to mature to be as fast. It already unlocks the instant you look at it.
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With many people around I can imagine that FaceID has a hard time being challenged by all surrounding faces (particularly with Asian characteristics carrying a perceived near-similarity)
That may be one of the practical, unforeseen issues that render even a promising technology worthless...
You perceive Asian characteristics to be similar, but a computer doesn’t have this bias. There are lefty of differences to calculate mathematically.
 
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Whether you use Face ID or not, every phone that has a button or a similar device on a bottom bezel will be considered old technology and begin to lose value.
 
You perceive Asian characteristics to be similar, but a computer doesn’t have this bias. There are lefty of differences to calculate mathematically.
Agree (being asian myself btw...)
Still, I expect FaceID to have a bigger challenge discerning xChinese than xEU people (the more the larger the x's)
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I can see so many scenarios where fingerprint unlocking would work better. Imagine going to concerts, or just any crowded areas, and your phone trying to pick up random people's faces around you. Even if FaceID could mature over time to be able to unlock just as fast as touchID, I'd still go for TouchID as it uses less battery and just seems to be more convenient based on what other users have mentioned in various scenarios.
Whaha, agree !
And Craig may be with us (when in private...)
 
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LOL.
Both belongs to the past.
Apple is looking to the future.
That's why Sucksung sucks.
Users like you make always manage to make me chuckle at the irony. So please help me understand the logic (or lack there of) in your latest comment. Samsung apparently sucks, yet you are the type to gawk at the iPhone X screen? Even though its pretty outdated and low resolution, compared to what's been available on Samsung's for several years now. And since fingerprint readers belong in the past....why did Apple release more devices with them, just the other day? All of their latest laptops have them as well. Your current phone and computer are outdated and suck too based on your comment. Shrugs.
 
Users like you make always manage to make me chuckle at the irony. So please help me understand the logic (or lack there of) in your latest comment. Samsung apparently sucks, yet you are the type to gawk at the iPhone X screen? Even though its pretty outdated and low resolution, compared to what's been available on Samsung's for several years now. And since fingerprint readers belong in the past....why did Apple release more devices with them, just the other day? All of their latest laptops have them as well. Your current phone and computer are outdated and suck too based on your comment. Shrugs.
I don't think there's a point in debating logic with someone that uses terms like "Sucksung"...
 
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That would spell the end of the line for Touch ID in the iPhone, which has been available as a biometric authentication option since 2013.
This is actually a strange realization for me. I've been hoping for an edge-to-edge display on an iPhone since rumors of the iPhone 6 started, which was a only year after they implemented TouchID. At the time I was so ready to give it up, but now that it's finally here, it's a little sad. TouchID has become a staple of sorts and it's hard to see it just disappear.
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No Thanx! I will NEVER buy a Face-ID device.
Don't shoe-horn things into consumers faces that they've never asked for and don't take away things they care deeply about. Enjoy the free-slide in sales. It may not be immediate, but it will be profound.

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Although I may also be a bit upset to see TouchID go, I truly hope you never buy another Apple product as long as you live. Go praise Samsung for not being innovative...
 
I will not be ever upgrading to a face scanning phone. After my contract is up, I'm going back to land line.

We all know damn well that the iPhone XX will be a patch under the skin.
 
I will not be ever upgrading to a face scanning phone. After my contract is up, I'm going back to land line.

We all know damn well that the iPhone XX will be a patch under the skin.
But you know damn well the iPhone XX is gonna have problems. I would NEVER buy a first gen product, let the early adopters be the guinea pigs. I'll be switching to walkie talkie until the iPhone XXX at a minimum!
 
Half the time I unlock my phone before it's even pointed at my face. This just feels like an inconvenient compromise for not having a good place for a fingerprint scanner.

That's exactly what I do too. Most of the time my iPhone 7 lies on my desk 1 to 2 feet to my right. A quick touch on the home button with one finger lets me see the display quickly without picking up the phone or even looking straight at it.
 
If I had to choose between either of them I would go with Touch ID every time.
You think you would.
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That's exactly what I do too. Most of the time my iPhone 7 lies on my desk 1 to 2 feet to my right. A quick touch on the home button with one finger lets me see the display quickly without picking up the phone or even looking straight at it.
Now all you need is a quick glance.
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That's not the point. I grab my phone from my pocket, thumb on the home button and by the time I look at it, it's unlocked . Last I checked mobile phone was a hand held/operated device.

faceid is trying to solve a problem that does not exist.
What if both your thumbs have already been chopped off because you’ve had your iPhone stolen twice? Bet you’d be thrilled with FaceID then—til your face gets chopped off the next time your phone gets stolen ;)

Yeah, before TouchID came out, people had all kinds of fears about the scary new technology. We’ll get over it when it actually gets released and we see how great it is. Then it’s not so frightening after all, and we can then talk about the magical new tech we have on our iPhones :)
 
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Users like you make always manage to make me chuckle at the irony. So please help me understand the logic (or lack there of) in your latest comment. Samsung apparently sucks, yet you are the type to gawk at the iPhone X screen? Even though its pretty outdated and low resolution, compared to what's been available on Samsung's for several years now. And since fingerprint readers belong in the past....why did Apple release more devices with them, just the other day? All of their latest laptops have them as well. Your current phone and computer are outdated and suck too based on your comment. Shrugs.
Samsung screens are not color accurate until this year and they still aren’t the best.
 
What if both your thumbs have already been chopped off because you’ve had your iPhone stolen twice? Bet you’d be thrilled with FaceID then—til your face gets chopped off the next time your phone gets stolen ;)

Yeah, before TouchID came out, people had all kinds of fears about the scary new technology. We’ll get over it when it actually gets released and we see how great it is. Then it’s not so frightening after all, and we can then talk about the magical new tech we have on our iPhones :)

But any new technology that comes out to provide security is frightening as "how well it is always kept" keeps coming up as the main issue. TouchID, and FaceID now and we still wonder how its all secured and protected..

This fear will forever be an issue. We do get over it,, but only till the nest scary thing comes out, then we repeat ourselves.
 
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