Anyone who has worn an Oculus knows this is the next thing, its like when Steve saw the GUI for the first time. Now I think you can see Oculus a bit as Xerox. They got a lot of stuff right, but navigation is terrible, UI is terrible, mainstream reach is terrible, weight of the set is terrible. This is where Apple comes in, refines the technology so it becomes usable, makes the main stream adopt it by Appstore. As for usage, who wouldn't like infinite extra screens setup while working, having blueprints show up as an overlay while working on the car, having notifications and phone integration. I can think of a zillion thing that this could be used for and problems it would solve.
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Kuo: Apple AR Headset Coming in Late 2022 With Mac-Level Computing Power
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One of the ways I could see these working isn't that you wear them for long periods of time but in certain circumstances you put them on and have large screens with information and video projected in front of you. I could see this replacing the need for a laptop/tablet for some people.
The part about it being independent of the phone surprises me, I thought the headset would use the phone to access your information from the cloud. Anyway it's all speculation at the moment, will be interesting to see how it turns out.
The part about it being independent of the phone surprises me, I thought the headset would use the phone to access your information from the cloud. Anyway it's all speculation at the moment, will be interesting to see how it turns out.
To replace the iPhone, you need to have society accepting of the possibility of being continuously secretly recorded. That seemed to be one of the sticking points with Google Glass. And, you’re going to be wearing $1,000 minimum on your face. Much easier to snatch.
sounds like this is the ar/vr headset ? with the oled panels. will be interesting to see how much effort apple puts into the software side cause oculus has a lot of good engineers working hard with constant updates
To be fair, most of the products out so far has either been too heavy or ugly or they have been too limited to be useful. I don't know if Apple can overcome all that, but I don't think the lack of adoption is necessarily because people are averse to having a computer on their face.
Agree that this has to to be non intrusive for people to use it. I do believe the biggest challenge is weight, and that competes with battery live. We already wear computers on our arms, in our pockets, on our laps so....
Yeah, Apple really seems to be killing itself on AR in general. Yet – I have not used a single AR feature on my phone even once, nor even know how to access them. I don't think I'm atypical in this respect. Maybe Apple really has a vision that will eventually come to life. Or maybe it's just a fun thing their engineers (and managers promoted from engineers) like to work on instead of fixing iOS and macOS bugs.
Facebook’s dystopian Metaverse has ruined any excitement of virtual reality for me.
I’m not sure I see the problem. “The cloud” is mostly marketing lingo for servers that store data. Any device that can connect to the internet can access “the cloud.”
The component that phones have that most other devices don’t have is a modem, which allows our phones to connect to the internet from any location where we can receive the signal.
Remember, Apple bought Intel’s 5G modem division in 2019. Within the next 2-3 years, Apple will have their modem designed in-house and probably fabricated by TSMC. Those will obviously go into future iPhones, but more importantly, they will go into AR/VR glasses as well. You will not need to be tethered to your phone in order to access your personal iCloud account. The Glasses will have everything they need to do that on their own.
dont speak in our name..for example i care...and a lot others users
why on iphone you cant be continuously secretly recorded but in these you can ?!
You phone is just a computer with a small screen and access to the internet. The Apple Watch needs the phone because the screen is too small for some tasks but even then Apple is weaning the cellular watch off needing the iPhone. There is no reason that the glasses should need to be tethered to the phone as long as it has an input method and internet connection.
Interface and ways of interaction, which Apple is an expert of.
It’s not really about whether it’s possible to do but more the perception of always being recorded. Because phones are usually in people‘s pockets the camera won’t bother people as much much as a camera that’s always on someone’s face. If someone has a go pro mounted on their head 24/7, people around them would be equally nervous even if it’s not on/recording.
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I wonder if Apple can solve that age-old VR problem…
How to wear a pair of goggles without looking like a complete tw*t.
How to wear a pair of goggles without looking like a complete tw*t.
Hmm, an M1 plus battery in a set of glasses? The M1 is energy-efficient but I think it will be difficult to shrink the package enough, since people are sensitive about weight on the head. And I think the price will be a problem, 1500 USD is not an impulse purchase even for Apple fans, it would have to have some clear benefits.
Of course the hardware is only half of the equation, the software and the overall experience are really key in order to convince people it will be a worthwhile investment. I’m willing to be convinced but it had better be pretty awesome if it’s going to replace my iPhone.
The whole idea of a mixed-reality set of glasses has a lot of potential pitfalls. Are they designed to be taken off when not in use? Can you look through them when the display is off? Do they have a battery pack? What does the software metaverse look like?
Of course the hardware is only half of the equation, the software and the overall experience are really key in order to convince people it will be a worthwhile investment. I’m willing to be convinced but it had better be pretty awesome if it’s going to replace my iPhone.
The whole idea of a mixed-reality set of glasses has a lot of potential pitfalls. Are they designed to be taken off when not in use? Can you look through them when the display is off? Do they have a battery pack? What does the software metaverse look like?
To have a new headset world-wide spread, there needs to be demand. I think the price will be much lower than the expected 2000 or something. In fact, I think Apple aims to mass distribution with a "relatively-cheap" device, which will have all default apps like maps, messages, notes, safari etc.
Then, and only then, will developers find it worth it adapting/creating Apps for that device. Not to mention professional apps.
Then, and only then, will developers find it worth it adapting/creating Apps for that device. Not to mention professional apps.
so you think this will have a camera?
better be always recorded...than sometimes...its safer...we have more control over the intruders, thief's and so on
For example, on my car...i have a 360 camera view recorder when someone hits me he automaticaly starts to record and open the all 4 cameras from mirrors ,front and back ...so he cant hit and run..mercedes has this, and i hope this system will be adopted by others cars manufactures
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Same as AirPods. Ability to receive visual input “on the go”. Like watching a movie, YouTube while taking a walk, guided navigation, social games.
A wearable permanent communication device with AR capabilities?
Puts on futuristic Star Trek com badge..
Puts on futuristic Star Trek com badge..
My guess of it being heavier is purely based off of the the AirPods Max. I expect these to heavily lean on the style and materials used in those.
You know what's better than camera passthrough at 4K though? Your eyes.
It's also just the nerd-factor. Wearables up to now have succeeded when they've come in a form-factor people are already comfortable with—watches, earbuds, rings, bracelets, armbands. The snowboarding-google style is a much more aggressive ask. I don't doubt it will be a nicely finished and well crafted product, I just think that regular people won't want to use it.
Yeah, I think it's mainly the consumer application I'm struggling with. I can totally see how it could be a useful tool, for 3D artists, but that's a very narrow niche for all this investment.
That's not a killer feature, it's the bare-minimum a product needs to be usable.
But AirPods are familiar. We've had headphones and earphone for decades. This is a relatively new form-factor that to date has had extremely niche success (and largely only with gamers, an audience Apple typically wouldn't reach). I don't the issue here is a technical one, it's a social one. People don't want to strap a computer to their face. It's nerdy and weird and rude. Apple really have their work cut out for them if they want this to be a daily, out-and-about device.
really? Didn’t know eyes needed NO glasses, or had LIDAR, infared, etc. are you predator?
I didn't know I needed LiDAR and infrared to walk around. Just because you can strap something to your face doesn't make it a good idea.
The use case for people to wear their glasses to see is pretty compelling and they don’t… never underestimate the vanity of humans.