I wonder how many people won't even break the seal, are buying one in hopes that 15 or so years from now a MiB first run VisionPro will be worth 100K. (If a MiB 4GB 1st gen iPhone can be worth 50K, WHY NOT?!)
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Kuo: Apple Has Already Sold Up to 180,000 Vision Pro Headsets
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Yes - because EVERYONE does that on day 1. SMH. It usually takes YEARS to recoup your R&D when its a not an incremental product.
You mean the VP? Yeah I guess it's user-friendly enough, you strap it on and go. But it's not any simpler than existing VR headsets, although much of that will be the software/OS which is being defined as we go along. My point with the iPad was that it ushered in a new paradigm of touch friendly devices where existing Windows tablets virtually forced you to use a stylus and were very touch unfriendly. That paradigm of being simple, while way too kiddie crayon for me personally, is a big part of what made the iPad successful.
I'd say it's there. Sure when you combine all the different versions of their speakers and devices that Amazon and Google sell at various price ranges, majority of which are significantly lower priced like the dot and nest mini than they beat it overall. Apple had one new speaker that went on sale for $94.99 and was still able to make be the best selling one that quarter. Has there been an updated article suggesting the HomePod isn't doing well and proving that it is a "widely regarded failure"?
Stop. A few million have purchased them, over several years. No indication that anyone is using them, as there is no active, excited development for any of them. Most anecdotal reports indicate that people stop using them very quickly as the gimmick that they are wears off fast. They have no staying power. You're going to sit here and accuse me of arguing based on feelings while you wildly over-exaggerate the "success" of VR headsets. I don't think so.
You're getting awfully worked up buddy, relax! Getting back to facts, and away from feelings, a report from last year stated that Meta had sold around 20 million headsets. Not a "few" million. That's one company. And that's before the release of the Quest 3. It's fine if you don't like VR, but don't let your feelings get in the way of facts: https://www.roadtovr.com/quest-sales-20-million-retention-struggles/
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Scarcity makes this game work. There's not an abundance of MiB 4GB 1st Gen iPhones available for auction. Too many people have this same idea about Vpro. It many act on it, they may pinch limited supply for those who would like to buy and use it in 2024 and then watch their clever investment plunge in value in year 15 when they list it for $100K and another guy with the same lists his for $95K and another guy lists his for $90K . . . and another guy just wants to get rid of his for his cost at $3500... and another guy is dumping his for $2500, etc.
Let a boat load of mint Action Comics #1 or mint Honus Wagner cards turn up and watch their auction value plunge. Let someone find a deposit of Gold or Platinum that makes it as commonplace as zinc or nickel and watch those precious metals values plunge.
It's not an automatic thing to sit on about any purchase for 15 years and the value will only go way up. See this list and there's many more like it.
That isn't the point that you think it is. A few million gimmicky christmas presents at a couple hundred bucks a piece hasn't translated to ANYTHING. There is no heavily active development community around Quest. Most users put it in a drawer after a few days of use.
Great for Apple and those into this kind of device but I’m one Apple customer who isn’t interested in it. It’ll have its target market and I am yet to be convinced it’s a domestic product based on how it’s priced.
Don’t underestimate the Apple effect.
Sure, there’s a Meta Quest 3, a PSVR2 and apparently several other less-talked-about headsets on the market, but when Apple enters the arena, it gets people’s attention.
It’s like the foldable phones. Sure, they have their fans now, but they’re kinda niche at the moment. But if Apple enters that category, it’ll boost them all.
The VR/AR space has its fans, it’s niche for sure, but now we have Apple’s spin on it, which could be the changing of the tides.
Either that, or it’ll be a glorious failure. I’m happy Apple is trying something different, and their spin on this technology does feel different from the other versions out there.
Plus, sometimes all it takes is adding an Apple OS to familiar hardware that changes people’s perception. People know it’ll be less confusing than the other versions, and the quality appears to be top notch.
This is an exciting story to follow, which is why we’re all here commenting.
Sure, there’s a Meta Quest 3, a PSVR2 and apparently several other less-talked-about headsets on the market, but when Apple enters the arena, it gets people’s attention.
It’s like the foldable phones. Sure, they have their fans now, but they’re kinda niche at the moment. But if Apple enters that category, it’ll boost them all.
The VR/AR space has its fans, it’s niche for sure, but now we have Apple’s spin on it, which could be the changing of the tides.
Either that, or it’ll be a glorious failure. I’m happy Apple is trying something different, and their spin on this technology does feel different from the other versions out there.
Plus, sometimes all it takes is adding an Apple OS to familiar hardware that changes people’s perception. People know it’ll be less confusing than the other versions, and the quality appears to be top notch.
This is an exciting story to follow, which is why we’re all here commenting.
It must hurt your brain to read anything that isn’t Apple marketing material. Sorry that magical And courage are not in my posts.
It's also interesting that MacRumors has a lot of people who seem incapable of understanding that not liking something doesn't necessarily equal "can't afford it". 🤣
$3,500 invested today at 5% interest would be
yr 1: $175
yr 2: $183.75
yr 3: $192.94
yr 4: $202.58
yr 5: $212.71
So in 5 years you would have $4,466.98
Then you could buy a whopping Mac
yr 1: $175
yr 2: $183.75
yr 3: $192.94
yr 4: $202.58
yr 5: $212.71
So in 5 years you would have $4,466.98
Then you could buy a whopping Mac
I just cut my own hair, for the past 20 years, and I order water when I eat out. I invested it at better than 5% and I've saved enough to buy a Tesla Model 3 (5 years ago when the CEO wasn't so weird) and an Apple Vision Pro!$3,500 invested today at 5% interest would be
yr 1: $175
yr 2: $183.75
yr 3: $192.94
yr 4: $202.58
yr 5: $212.71
So in 5 years you would have $4,466.98
Then you could buy a whopping Mac
Also, I'm getting older and I don't know how many years I have left. I want to enjoy the Apple Vision Pro now, not wait five years and then buy a Mac instead.
With cumulative inflation over 5 years being 13.5% that's a negative investment$3,500 invested today at 5% interest would be
yr 1: $175
yr 2: $183.75
yr 3: $192.94
yr 4: $202.58
yr 5: $212.71
So in 5 years you would have $4,466.98
Then you could buy a whopping Mac
I owned a model S for four years and then the trouble started and after 6 months of hell, it was finally repaired and I sold it at the height of the COVID used car boom. I'll think more than twice about owning another eLon product.
It's great to read about real excitement for a new tech product. It really has been a long time since I felt that buzz. I certainly was blown away when I first hooked up the original Quest to my pc many years ago and to a lesser extent when liberated from the wire with the Quest 2 however it never felt like the technology and software support moved forward. Playing online poker with a virtual cowboy avatar whilst a mischievous child battered other players with a virtual rubber monkey never felt like the future but I need to revisit the latest software to try and rediscover that Aha feeling.
I did buy the iPhone 1 and loved the very early days of jailbreaking and homebrew software. It was truly groundbreaking and exciting despite the quality of those initial apps. I could see into the future with the release of that device and was excited for every subsequent release for many years.
I am excited to try the AVP but just not enough to justify the cost at this stage given my Quest experience. I know that it will take the Quest experience and improve on it in every way but I'm still not convinced that will be enough.
Enjoy using safari to access Netflix, YouTube, Spotify and other big names.
Windows Phone lives again 🤣😂🤣😂
Windows Phone lives again 🤣😂🤣😂
Planning computer purchases for 5 years in the future has not been predictable in the 45 years I have been buying them. Coincidentally, price increases and interest rates haven't been this unpredictable in about 45 years.$3,500 invested today at 5% interest would be
yr 1: $175
yr 2: $183.75
yr 3: $192.94
yr 4: $202.58
yr 5: $212.71
So in 5 years you would have $4,466.98
Then you could buy a whopping Mac
So my advice would be: if you need that money for food or shelter, don't buy an AVP. But honestly, if you readily have $3500 actually available for luxuries, you likely have enough financial knowledge to know exactly how much you value the AVP and whether that is enough to buy it... without the advice of someone on the internet.
Enjoy using safari to access Netflix, YouTube, Spotify and other big names.
Windows Phone lives again
As though alternatives don’t exist.
Spotify - Apple Music. I won’t be surprised if Spotify sees people switching over and quickly moves to release an app for the Vision Pro to stem the exodus.
YouTube - Play is available.
Netflix - what do you know? My Netflix subscription ends today. Just didn’t feel like I was getting enough mileage out of it.
If these companies think their little petty rebellion is going to be enough to make Apple kneel, they have another thing coming.