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Kuo: Apple Has Already Sold Up to 180,000 Vision Pro Headsets
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Apple has specified a 12ms photon to photon latency, which is by far a leading figure.
Meta Quest 3 for example is 45ms+, PS VR 2 50ms+.
It’s so far neither a failure nor a success. It’s too early to come to any conclusions, and even 500k devices in the first year are still a relatively small number.
Yeah currently up 1.55%. Gee… Tim Cook is running this company into the ground. /S
You've forgotten about the AirPods which is probably one of Apple's most popular and recognisable lines. Not to mention Apple Silicon, the considerable updates to both the iPhone and iPad areas.
Just because Tim didn't introduce the product doesn't mean he's not responsible for their success in Apple. He's been CEO for 12 years, that's not a short period of time.
How are people going to talk about possible VP motion sickness if it hasn't shipped yet.
Early sales are positive though. Clearly it’s early, but soooo many people on MR want to say it'd bomb from day one. Those people can officially suck it on these numbers!
Marques Brownlee (MKBHD) has worn it on 4 separate occasions and reported on each one. He’s not mentioned motion sickness once to my knowledge.
I fear that many of these devices will end up on shelves as status symbols.
This whole thing is a process, selling this few units makes total sense to me. They are testing it with customers building up developer interest and resources, and also in essence beta testing with real world users.
The people who say Apple don't innovate anymore, then gripe when they attempt something like this don't realize they are speaking out of both sides of their face.
The people who say Apple don't innovate anymore, then gripe when they attempt something like this don't realize they are speaking out of both sides of their face.
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Worth noting that motion sickness is highly subjective, some people are affected by it far worse than others.
I'm unfortunately in the camp of highly sensitive to it, I lasted less than five minutes with the PS VR headset. FPS doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as input latency.
Kuo said they were likely to sell 17,000,000 in 2023. I don’t know what the actual numbers were. That works out about 50,000 per day if it’s true.
Me too. I’d like to watch or read them after a lengthy amount of time has passed with the device though. It’s so easy to get caught up in the initial hype and newness of a gadget that flaws or real life use cases can be overlooked. It’s best to have time with stuff.
Apple sells millions and millions of Apple TVs, yet compared to the App Stores on iPhone, iPad, and Mac, there is comparatively very few apps beyond the streaming services. Technically there could be Google Maps or Instagram apps for Apple TV, but for whatever reason, those operations have deemed it not worth their time. And Instagram still doesn't have an iPad app I believe, so sales figures likely isn't their primary motivator.
Let's see how the Apple Vision Pro does in the wild over the next year or so, who knows, this could be one of the most important Apple products to ever be introduced. Come back in 10 years and see how your comment fairs.
Kind of crazy that over the last few years, on average Apple takes about $1b every single day in revenue.
Now we know why Apple is in a rush to make them available in more countries in order to pump the sales data. This reminds me of the original Homepod. Still see no reason for this thing to exist. Tim should have focused all that r&d on AI.
The entire 2023 AR/VR headset market size was around $7B. If Apple moves 500M units at $3.5K that's $1.75B or about 25% of the 2023 market. Not bad for a niche "developer kit" with no Netflix or YouTube app.
Innovators and early adopters vs. late majority and laggards.
In this particular case I will be a laggard.
In this particular case I will be a laggard.
HomePod is a great product, I love mine and use them every day. Just because it doesn't interest you doesn't devalue it for anyone else.
With its specs I think that while some people will still suffer from it, VP will have a lower occurrence of motion sickness then the other less expensive, lower specced headsets.
Of note, check if you weren’t able to get an early preorder. Lots of cancellations from people who were planning to scalp. Lots of 512’s available for 2/2 pickup.
Apple’s playing a smart long game here. They’re having to redefine the HMD from a toy to a great home computer. When you think of the VP as a home device and imagine it as a compliment (not replacement) to the iPhone, it makes more sense. I know I’m guilty of staring at my little phone hours at a time at home (doing it now). VP for home, iPhone for away from home.
Apple’s playing a smart long game here. They’re having to redefine the HMD from a toy to a great home computer. When you think of the VP as a home device and imagine it as a compliment (not replacement) to the iPhone, it makes more sense. I know I’m guilty of staring at my little phone hours at a time at home (doing it now). VP for home, iPhone for away from home.
They are in this platform for the long haul to which 100k units at launch is irrelevant.
Of course it will be a couple of years before anyone can confidently say that a new platform with a new OS is a long-term success or failure. However...that hasn't stopped the cynics, you included, from considering its a failure before it even launched.
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