Kuo: Apple Has Already Sold Up to 180,000 Vision Pro Headsets

[mdriftmeyer]

HomePod is a great product, I love mine and use them every day. Just because it doesn't interest you doesn't devalue it for anyone else.

I own 2 minis and 1 HomePod 2 gen. Will get an additional 3 HomePod and 2 other minis for the home. Having the house slowly being acoustically treated for recording on all levels these units make for a very pleasant spacious mood music throughout within a well diffused environment.

 

[XboxEvolved]

"Sold out" via online orders, pretty much easily bought at launch (or day or two after) from an Apple Store.

Also people talking about motion sickness in here, I've seen at least two articles mention motion sickness and the usual disorientation caused by headsets.

 

[DHagan4755]

I'm waiting for the Apple Vision Pro model that doesn't require the headset. Then I'll get one.

 

[MilaM]

Me too. I’d like to watch or read them after a lengthy amount of time has passed with the device though. It’s so easy to get caught up in the initial hype and newness of a gadget that flaws or real life use cases can be overlooked. It’s best to have time with stuff.

I agree. It will take some time to asses how the VP will perform in everyday life. The first reviews will likely be very optimistic, just because of the novelty factor.

 

[darngooddesign]

"Sold out" via online orders, pretty much easily bought at launch (or day or two after) from an Apple Store.

Also people talking about motion sickness in here, I've seen at least two articles mention motion sickness and the usual disorientation caused by headsets.

People complain about display issues in the iPad mini which aren't present in the iPad Pro. Are those people complaining about headsets in general or specifically the VP high uses higher quality displays?

 

[MayaUser]

But but some of us said is dead on arrival

 

[bernoulli]

Many here on MacRumours would and have called me a "hater" for being sceptical of the AVP 1.0, but I am in no way saying it is going to fail 100%.

Whether it will climb out of the niche market remains to be seen, right now the price is a concern. Just read the threads here on MR where people have been buying. A large number are funding this by credit.

However the more Apple sells, then hopefully the more useful apps will be developed.

So fingers crossed this does take off and in a decade or so I'll be buying or receiving the version AVP 5.0 as my 70th birthday gift.
If my old neck will support it!

They will be selling Miami-J collar as optional extra for $100

 

[Timo_Existencia]

Fun to watch the continuously moving goalposts of the haters.

[I'm imagining that the great rush to delete past predictions has begun]

 

[ke-iron]

Haters gonna hate no matter what.

 

[MilaM]

I'm waiting for the Apple Vision Pro model that doesn't require the headset. Then I'll get one.

If you have eyes and ears, your hardware should already work quite well. I call it Real World 3D Pro with Spatial Audio.

 

[laptech]

Those that have changed their mind in buying one and instead looking to buy the next version may regret it if Apple chose to remove or downgrade features/functions for version 2. MR have already made posts where Apple has stated designing and manufacturing the VP has been a very difficult process so it stands to reason that Apple would be looking to make the next version easier to manufacture which could mean certain features and functions are downgraded or removed from the original VP. I am sure Apple would also be looking to make it cheaper as well which would mean lower spec'd parts being used. If Apple do this, would those who decided not to buy the VP now and wait for the next version regret their decision?

 

[DHagan4755]

If you have eyes and ears, your hardware should already work quite well. I call it Real World 3D Pro with Spatial Audio.

I've got that model!

 

[desslr]

Apparently "dead on arrival". Lolol 😂

Even if he is 50% wrong, it’s still a massive success.

500k estimated to be sold this year vs the 20 million Oculus headsets sold in Q1 2023.

Like I said dead on arrival.

There is no interest beyond the fanboys specified by Kuo. Zero developer interest especially to cater for 500k.

And that’s me giving Kuo benefit of the doubt it will reach 500k.

Hold me to account in 2 years time but not looking good for you so far! 😂

 

[svnty6rs3]

500k estimated to be sold this year vs the 20 million Oculus headsets sold in Q1 2023.

Like I said dead on arrival.

There is no interest beyond the fanboys specified by Kuo. Zero developer interest especially to cater for 500k.

And that’s me giving Kuo benefit of the doubt it will reach 500k.

Hold me to account in 2 years time but not looking good for you so far! 😂

Curious where you got that figure. 20 million in q1 2023?

I believe you were thinking of 20 million to date across all their versions.

“Meta has sold nearly 20 million Quest headsets to date, Mark Rabkin, the company’s vice president for VR, told employees during the presentation.”

Quest Sales

 

[steve09090]

500k estimated to be sold this year vs the 20 million Oculus headsets sold in Q1 2023.

Like I said dead on arrival.

There is no interest beyond the fanboys specified by Kuo. Zero developer interest especially to cater for 500k.

And that’s me giving Kuo benefit of the doubt it will reach 500k.

Hold me to account in 2 years time but not looking good for you so far! 😂

That’s hilarious! Zero developer interest is objectively wrong. But hey, if you don’t understand what the AVP is, then you can make up anything you want.

 

[steve09090]

Curious where you got that figure. 20 million in q1 2023?

I believe you were thinking of 20 million to date across all their versions.

“Meta has sold nearly 20 million Quest headsets to date, Mark Rabkin, the company’s vice president for VR, told employees during the presentation.”

Quest Sales

Yeah the figure is 16.44 million total (for ALL VR headsets) from 2019 through to 2024, but people can live in their own dreamworld.

 

[Bodhitree]

Hmm. I generally think about whether I will get real, genuine use out of a gadget before I buy it. I don’t want to accumulate tons of tech rubbish in my house, and to be honest I already have a few Apple gadgety things that I don’t get enough use from (looking at you Apple Pencil and Apple Watch). The case for a headset for me is far from clear, and I guess I will only find out when lots of people start telling me what I’m missing out on. But then I’m not planning to be an early adopter.

 

[M Hossein Hosseini]

Massive success = not even recouped the r&d costs. Weird.

the device cost them around $1500+ (according to an old leak) to make. they are already getting back $2000 with each device...
besides apple knows what they are doing and they were settling for 80,000 units at launch. so....

 

[Timo_Existencia]

First wave done. The device sold 2-3 times what was commonly expected.

Second wave will begin once hands-on demos happen in Apple Stores. Once people get to experience it for themselves. Remember all the first-take reviews of those who spent 30 minutes with the device? That will now be happening at a much larger scale, and instead of handing the device back to Apple employees, people will be handing over their credit cards.

Third wave will happen once Apple begins selling worldwide.

Kuo, as I read his Medium post, seems not to acknowledge that this was a US only launch.

 

[M Hossein Hosseini]

Doesn’t motion sickness come from lag which Vision Pro virtually doesn’t have? Maybe, I don’t know, wait until people get to actually test them?

The way apple is advertising vision pro I don't think motion sickness will be a problem. people return their quests because It is advertised for gaming... people see It and they try it... they play one of those intense games and get motion sickness.

 

[sjperformance]

I bought many MACs with 0 % financing and it was a no-brained since I got 45 % tax payment back within the time of financing it.
Once you figure out how to optimize your individual cashflow a low percentage credit can be a wise option in case your depot generates more income the same time.

I am going to buy it the day it’ll arrive in the EU stores - and I’ll put it on my CC since I am getting Lufthansa miles for every EUR spent - collecting these award miles pays directly for my next private fights. Easily 1 .. 2 domestic flights a year. I can see no misbehavior in this aprosch.

Needless to say that clearing of the CCs happen in Europe normally after four weeks - thus not the same as in the US.

This is a historic moment IMHO

Exactly. I'm picking mine up February 2. Put it on my AMEX plat. Pay it off end of the month. That's close to 4K points. Rack up points for December Christmas trip to pay for flights. Just used points to pay for flights for summer family trip.

 

[deckard666]

I don’t know Why all the negativity on here? Surely the more the Apple can sell the more they can do different versions that are cheaper later downthe line ? It’s a win for everyone.

 

[spazzcat]

the device cost them around $1500+ (according to an old leak) to make. they are already getting back $2000 with each device...
besides apple knows what they are doing and they were settling for 80,000 units at launch. so....

The cost of the hardware is not the same as the development cost. R&D, software, and marking are big part of that other part.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

A large number are funding this by credit.

Apple is giving 12 months interest free. Of course I used my Apple Card.

 

[Radeon85]

Apparently "dead on arrival". Lolol 😂

Even if he is 50% wrong, it’s still a massive success.

Still DOA at this price, 180K is sod all. If Apple only sold 180k iPhones on launch day it would have been a complete flop even in just one country.