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He doesn't mention touchscreens. I think that all Apple Silicon Macs will ship with a touchscreen (based on OS12 and native-running iOS apps). Am I right?
 
Can someone translate what second or third quarter 2021 means month-wise? I just bought a 2019 16 inch and for purely selfish reasons want the ARM model to not come out for a while. :)
 
I really want the 14 inch model with LED screen and boosted gpu. I know it’s coming! My only concern is that knowing Apple it will cost an ARM and a leg.
 
Apple just update the 13" MBP with the new 10th gen intel chip, and they are going to update it again before the end of this year ?

Meanwhile the 16" MBP only got BTO option on the GPU and won't see any update until Q3 2021 ?

wow. just wow.

This is actually a good time to invest in the 16" MBP for the last intel model and won't see an update until next year.
 
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I get excited about the possibilities when I hear "all new form factor design," but then I realize that this is considered "a major redesign"...
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"Power button integrated into TouchBar" and "redesigned arrow keys" doesn't get my blood pumping.
 
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This. Exactly this. Apple’s professional user population is not going to transition to a new chip architecture from day 1. Emulation is hogwash.

Except apple isn't really using emulation this time. Applications get converted at install (so it only happens once) rather than in realtime as before with emulation.
 
I was hoping for a 14" Intel MacBook Pro.

With mini-LED. Me too.


None of this points to a ‘fast transition’, boldly luring power and professional users.

This will be a slow burn. This is quite different to the PowerPC to Intel move which opened up the Mac to a whole new audience.

Apple will need to prove their new machines are worthy upgrading to and not just on power: they will need to be aesthetically desirable.

I am still concerned about this transition. If Apple were really prepared to make an architectural transition, I would expect all consumer machines to transition this year and professional machines by next year. The rumored update to yet another Intel chip for the iMac does not inspire confidence in Apple's silicon for me.


This doesn't make sense to me. I thought they would switch the MacBook Air to Apple Silicon before the upper-tier MacBook Pro. If there ever was a computer that could use ARM, it's the Air. A fanless 13" with great battery life and good performance would set a new standard in the industry.

I agree. The choice of laptop to replace does not make sense unless (A) Apple is trying to prove it can produce a laptop suitable for professional / business use or (B) Kuo has wrong information. It would not make sense for Apple to introduce a 13" MBP and then a 14" MBP a year later. If Apple does this, then it is a strong indicator that the 13" is intended to be a beta hardware testbed.

My feeling is that the 13" model coming later this year will actually be a 12" with slim bezels to fit a 13" screen. And the performance and battery life will actually be good enough to kill off both the 13" Air and the 13" MacBook Pro (low-end, 2 Thunderbolt ports.) I can easily see a range of configurations from $999 to $1699 that have various memory and cellular options. It will allow Apple to simplify its consumer product offerings.

The 14" and 16" models coming next year will be the replacement for the MacBook Pro line.

This makes more sense. Then Apple's lineup would be 12", 14", 16" as some of us have been wanting for a while.


Apple is done with Intel. The next MBP will definitely be ARM

It should have been AMD. Somewhere somebody at Apple mixed up which A-based processor should be used in professional machines.
 
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I would definitely be interested in looking at the 14.1 Apple Silicon as a possible replacement for my 16". Likely be nearly as fast and run a lot cooler. Hopefully with a buttery smooth 120Hz display like they use in the iPad Pros.
 
LoL... well then 16” will probably be updated to AS in 2022. Apple was always but always too late and lazy to update their mac line-up. If the rumor says it’s Q3 2021 then I gladly expect it no earlier than 2022. Though, Mr. Kuo isn’t good at timing. Let’s see..
But most of that probably was due to Intel!
 
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Sounds like MiniLED display production is lagging behind the earlier projections from MCK and others, so what was originally assumed to be a late 2020 release for these new MiniLED Macs with Intel CPUs is now early-to-mid 2021, which makes them now "eligible" to move to Apple Silicon and that change could push them back into late 2021 or early 2022.
 
Can someone clarify whether Citrix Workspace will work on the upcoming lineup? I know nothing about virtualization software.
 
As a desktop user I'd like to see a reasonably-priced Mini with Apple silicon come out fairly early on to be used as a test-bed system. I know I could just buy a low-end laptop and run it on an external monitor, but I'm cheap and don't like spending money on things I don't need (screen, batteries, touchpad, etc).
 
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LoL... well then 16” will probably be updated to AS in 2022. Apple was always but always too late and lazy to update their mac line-up. If the rumor says it’s Q3 2021 then I gladly expect it no earlier than 2022. Though, Mr. Kuo isn’t good at timing. Let’s see..
The 15” was the first to get retina screen and the first to get Touch Bar. I’d be surprised if the 16” didn’t get AS first. Unless the 13” is as powerful as the current 16”.
 
Hope my 2016 15.4'' MBP makes it. Fingers crossed, it started intermediately showing symptoms of the flexgate issue the last few months. Hopefully the screen makes it as $600 for a used replacement display doesn't really vibe with me. Being an early adopter of an ARM 16'' MBP with a different form factor definitely rocks my boat though.
 
I'm hoping the previous rumor holds true. I currently have a 2017 15" MBP, and will be eligible to upgrade to a new one this fall through my employer. It would be great if there is one more (final) Intel based 16" MBP I could upgrade to. Then in another 3 years, I can switch to Apple Silicon when all the rough edges have been smoothed out.
 
Every single iMac I have ever worked on has always and CONTINUES to look, MILES better than any PC equivalent. I really could not care less about bezels or not, as a piece of product design, something sat on a desk, it is STILL iconic and streets ahead of the competition. Fact.

Seriously, the design is quite decent. If there's a choice, to ask for an overhaul design vs shoving in rtx 2080 level graphic inside, i would opt for later. I want the iMac to deliver power enough run any games nicely. I don't want all the extra stuff that comes with iMac pro, just a regular iMac with a mammoth graphic card inside.
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I get excited about the possibilities when I hear "all new form factor design," but then I realize that this is considered "a major redesign"...View attachment 932537

"Power button integrated into TouchBar" and "redesigned arrow keys" doesn't get my blood pumping.

Macbooks have hardly gone any redesign since the unibody, they have slimmed it only, But then if you make something simple and sleek, there's not much designing you can do in it anyway, unless you start making in un-clean and clutter with things.
 
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