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Kuo: Apple Vision Pro Unlikely to Receive Major Upgrades Until 2027
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Totally in line with the old comments the other day saying the iPod was dead, the iPhone was dead, and the ipad was dead.
I just spent $4k on a VisionPro. If they indicated they were releasing a 2.0 in 2025, I might have returned, especially if I just bought a Version 0 without intending to. If they release a discount Air version, my purchase is still sound. Very likely, they’re going to software update the hell out of it over the next year to entice new buyers. The hardware is far and away ahead of the competition. As we get into late 2025 the rumorville will be jazzed up about the next model.
This is the future.
This is a false premise. They would never release version 1 of a $3500 device in February and then release another version in October/November of the same year.
> Kuo: Apple Vision Pro Unlikely to Receive Major Upgrades Until 2027
This guy is such a visionary that the 2027 edition should be called Vision Kuo!
This guy is such a visionary that the 2027 edition should be called Vision Kuo!
I guess we ignore all the rhetoric about how this was just a “dev preview” then?
Telegraphing that they don’t intend to update the hardware significantly for at least THREE YEARS is a clear signal.
these two points are exactly it. this is why, even if they executed this thing perfectly, which they absolutely did not, they would still have a niche toy with not much of a future.
no year over year iteration or creative implementation of this thing is gonna overcome the fact that people just don’t want this. it’s dumb and dorky and impractical. people point to the negative iphone/ipad reviews claiming some kind of parallel, but those devices weren’t a great fit for most people early on. no app store, bad cameras, and just not a lot of things were made for them yet. but since the implementation was practical for a wider audience, they refined until it made sense. and let’s be honest, we were laughing at those reviews then too, people who didn’t see the potential of smart phones in 2008 were irrelevant old heads. there’s no threshold you can get this thing to that will make people want to strap in to this corny content prison.
The quest 3 for £479 is already incredible and in many ways better than Vision Pro, they are working on the next meta vr headset for next year and it will include many things Vision Pro has like eye tracking and for the price it’s gonna make apples product not work well in sales. Already people say Vision Pro is behind meta quest in many ways and that’s now
3 years without a refresh? I have a Vision Pro and it really needs a refresh soon that is lighter and more comfortable to wear.
Vision Pro, AirPods Max, HomePod all niche products
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By then, Android will have copied all of iPhones software advantages and sell comparable hardware for much less.
By then, PCs will have copied all of Macs software advantages and sell comparable hardware for much less.
By then, Fire and other Android tables will have copied all of iPads software advantages and sell comparable hardware for much less.
Shall I go on?
So all of those don't seem like a winning strategy too? Else, why do we hold such things against only this SINGLE Apple product?
I actually agree that Meta probably has Vpro feature & benefit copiers on overdrive to try to make Oculus more Vpro-like. But it will still be Meta... just as the other player's phones are still Android... the other guy's computers are still PCs/Windows... the other guy's tablets are still Amazon/Android. I can't reconcile how there can be 50K+ threads passionately arguing the superiority of Apple iPhone, Apple Mac, Apple iPad/ASD/HPs/Watch/etc vs. all competitor offerings... but then have many of the same people so quick to marginalize Apple Vpro against obviously inferior hardware such as Meta Oculus.
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Source? Personal anecdote at least? Nope, you don't own one. I use mine as a monitor for my Mac maybe, maybe 5% of the time. The rest of the time I am remote and no where near my computer. Or sometimes, I don't need a Mac application, the AVP apps are fine for what I want to do and I don't want to bother with opening my laptop.
Until they come up with a wireless protocol that enables my phone to be the heavy lifter, you're just wrong. And even if they do that, its not a Mac and people will continue to complain.
This is the key ^^
Especially for those who keep comparing AVP to the iPhone
When new iPhones are launched to the public, the next version has literally already been developed.
They roadmap and execute on a mulit-year time scale
If we are hearing "no new AVP for awhile" -- it's quite telling
I think they just shipped this thing ...to ship it.
Sometimes you just need to stop pouring time and money into something and "ship it" and get it over with
You need to check your history
The AVP launch bears zero resemblance to the products you mentioned
rumors you have no validation of. for every product launched I have no doubt there were naysayers in the background that wanted to tweak it some more. That's the nature of creative types, to not let something go until it's perfect. and it never is perfect. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. but I understand, fits some folks narrative. The launch has gone fine.
Why do headphones need constant updates? I don’t understand this point of view.
They don't -- but it has been over 3 years on the APMs and it's a touch surprising there hasn't been some kind of bump
(I say this as an APM owner and user)
They don’t. Take the Sennheiser HD650 or the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro. Both excellent sets, both basically unchanged for decades. Headphones are speakers. Apple trying to make them into computers is kind of silly.
Core products and services like the Mac with its languishing software and plummeting UI and usability
If that's true it explains why the product was so obviously flawed and unfinished at release. What a weird situation
I fully expect one day that Airpods will be capable of running by themselves without needing a device. We are a long way off from that though. The only reason Apple releases new Airpods is to stay competitive with other wireless headphone products.
What was the must-have feature that evolved over time for the iPad, like the case you make for health and fitness for the Apple Watch? I know Apple has tried to position the iPad as a replacement for a computer, but most consumers aren't buying that (but still buy the iPad). So what feature has evolved over time with the iPad? I think for the most point people still use it for content consumption more than creation, just how it was positioned at launch.
I am sincerely curious, but obviously I have a point to make too. I disagree that a killer app has to be found for the AVP before it can be judged worth buying for some people. At $3500 it was never going to be for everyone.