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Yeah, I’ve never seen someone with 20/20 vision wearing sunglasses.

I’ve also never seen anyone wearing a watch in a room with a clock.

And I’ve never seen anyone wearing shoes in a room with shag carpeting.

There are so many companies selling Sunglasses. Sunglasses work. Tell me, how many companies are selling AR or VR headsets?

Apple tends to walk into an already established market and then makes it better.

iPod = CD Player / Tape Player / MP3 Players already existed.
Apple TV = Plenty of set top boxes existed before this
iPhone = Smartphones and Phones in general already existed.
iPad = Plenty of tablets available before that
Apple Watch = People had watches for ages.
Homepod = Google Home, Alexa, Smart speakers galore.

But where are the AR Glasses? Not even Samsung is selling a pair. And as I already said, VR, AR and 3D has not taken off because people don't want to wear things on their faces for it. Number one reason for 3D TV's failing to take off was people didn't wanna wear the glasses.

Also how the heck are you meant to wear AR glasses that look like and function like glasses (meaning they feature some kind of lenses that make them look like glasses) if you already wear spectacles? - Look at Microsofts AR Hololens product (intended now only for industry after failing in the consumer space) they are so big because it has to fit over your spectacles.

I think it'll be another failure like the Homepod to me. But look I'm not saying I'm right, your opinion is completely valid, you could be right. I accept that completely, this is just my thoughts on it.
 
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Sceptical. How can the tech be there?

How can Apple possible create something that is ready for mainstream 2020? Also, carmack said AR is 3 - 5 years behind VR in regard of pure tech. VR is not ready for mainstream yet, and the displey tech etc etc with screen door is not very impressive. Not sure how apple can pull this off?

Literally the stupidest thing I have ever heard. HTC Vive, Playstation VR, and Oculus Rift are all mainstream tech and perform fairly well.
 
And many people never thought they'd want to put "1,000 songs in your pocket."

I expect Apple's entry into AR will be panned here. Like the iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch, AirPods, etc.

You could be right. Though I personally loved the iPod the moment I saw it and the Airpods. As for the iPad.. well mine sits in a drawer collecting dust. I liked the Apple Watch once they sorted the software out but I liked its physical appearance from the first moment.

I think AR will be important in the future but they need to get the form factor right. Google tried and failed. It's not going to be as easy as making a smart watch or a smart speaker. Lets face it, making a large rectangle and putting a screen in it as they have done with the iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad is a big difference from making an AR headset that goes on your face and has to fit all different people and still look stylish and be functional.
 
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Presumably the glasses won't have a cable running from the phone, so what high-bandwidth low-latency video transmission technology would be used?

reporpusing the 5G modem for local use? maybe the latest WIFI standard? WIGIG ?
 
This will be great for businesses and professional use but not so much for us who do not have a specific use for them. This may even just be a b2b kind of thing.
 
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5g radiation blasting near my colon, crotch and on top of my head is not going to be a concern to me whatsoever.
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Yet another Apple accessory to make you look like a douchebag:

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The future looks sexy
 
Sceptical. How can the tech be there?

Look what MS released? hololense 2. not very impressive, and the price tag. jesus

And also Magic Leap, not very impressive at all.

How can Apple possible create something that is ready for mainstream 2020? Also, carmack said AR is 3 - 5 years behind VR in regard of pure tech. VR is not ready for mainstream yet, and the displey tech etc etc with screen door is not very impressive. Not sure how apple can pull this off?

Also, what happend to: Its not about being first, its about being best?
You're really going to compare products Apple releases to Microsoft? Microsoft is a great company, but their consumer hardware is largely crap.
 
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iGlasses - 5k price tag while MS and Magic Leap are around 3.5k . hmmm Yeah sounds like Apple to me going to produce them
 
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So instead of an iPhone accessory, I could see an AR headset replace my monitor - this could come in handy to go along side of the Mac mini or future MacPro. Much more real estate if I could have a 360 degree platform to "lay photoshop pallets and templates and files around my room"
 
Yet another Apple accessory to make you look like a douchebag:

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Still looks better than being a 'Glasshole'.
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So instead of an iPhone accessory, I could see an AR headset replace my monitor - this could come in handy to go along side of the Mac mini or future MacPro. Much more real estate if I could have a 360 degree platform to "lay photoshop pallets and templates and files around my room"
I would like it for traveling in my RV. Stream a movie from my phone to the glasses and skip bringing along a tv. Then I can convert the tv cabinet to more food storage.
 
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Sceptical. How can the tech be there?

Look what MS released? hololense 2. not very impressive, and the price tag. jesus

And also Magic Leap, not very impressive at all.

How can Apple possible create something that is ready for mainstream 2020? Also, carmack said AR is 3 - 5 years behind VR in regard of pure tech. VR is not ready for mainstream yet, and the displey tech etc etc with screen door is not very impressive. Not sure how apple can pull this off?

Also, what happend to: Its not about being first, its about being best?

Most of the tech is already in your pocket, if you're using a recent iPhone: a camera and ARKit. The only additional tech that's needed is a way to project an image onto your retina.

Hololense and VR tech are entirely different beasts. Why compare to them? Similarly Magic Leap also tried to do too much in the glasses themselves - that's why they're still ugly/bulky.

Incidentally, I predicted 2 years ago what Kuo did today:
https://landofwolf.blogspot.com/2017/11/apples-ar-strategy.html
 
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The challenge with those AR glasses is not in the Tech per se but what you will do with them. One only prays it won't be about emojii or other life distracting, attention grabbing, people tagging tasks...
 
There are so many companies selling Sunglasses. Sunglasses work. Tell me, how many companies are selling AR or VR headsets?

Apple tends to walk into an already established market and then makes it better.

iPod = CD Player / Tape Player / MP3 Players already existed.
Apple TV = Plenty of set top boxes existed before this
iPhone = Smartphones and Phones in general already existed.
iPad = Plenty of tablets available before that
Apple Watch = People had watches for ages.
Homepod = Google Home, Alexa, Smart speakers galore.

But where are the AR Glasses? Not even Samsung is selling a pair. And as I already said, VR, AR and 3D has not taken off because people don't want to wear things on their faces for it. Number one reason for 3D TV's failing to take off was people didn't wanna wear the glasses.

Also how the heck are you meant to wear AR glasses that look like and function like glasses (meaning they feature some kind of lenses that make them look like glasses) if you already wear spectacles? - Look at Microsofts AR Hololens product (intended now only for industry after failing in the consumer space) they are so big because it has to fit over your spectacles.

I think it'll be another failure like the Homepod to me. But look I'm not saying I'm right, your opinion is completely valid, you could be right. I accept that completely, this is just my thoughts on it.

I agree with a lot of your points, but I disagree with your reason for 3D failure. I believe it failed because there was a lack of quality content and because 3D video forces the viewer to focus on a specific point on the screen. We want to scan the environment but 3D makes looking at out of focus areas of the screen uncomfortable.

That said, I don’t see current tech making AR an always on solution. Instead, I see it as an first gen iPad like solution. Portable enough to travel with but to big to comfortably use while moving.
 
Possible, kinda like the watch. Starts out where it was very reliant on your phone, to now becoming a device on its own. I see Apple doing this with these glasses if they release them. Over a set number of years they will become more independent but at first basically useless without an iPhone with you.
 
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It can be done today but theres issues of decent battery life and price, as you reference.

Price: it’s an Apple product so it will be expensive anyway. People will buy regardless.! ;-)


Sceptical. How can the tech be there?

Look what MS released? hololense 2. not very impressive, and the price tag. jesus

And also Magic Leap, not very impressive at all.

How can Apple possible create something that is ready for mainstream 2020? Also, carmack said AR is 3 - 5 years behind VR in regard of pure tech. VR is not ready for mainstream yet, and the displey tech etc etc with screen door is not very impressive. Not sure how apple can pull this off?

Also, what happend to: Its not about being first, its about being best?
 
If they look like regular glasses and accept prescription lenses and aren't unreasonably expensive, I'd snag a pair. I wear glasses all waking hours of the day anyway, so paying a few hundred more than I already pay to have an overlay of information that's useful would be pretty cool actually.
 
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I agree,

Whilst having a camera is great for the user, I struggle to believe that society in general would be happy to see millions of people with camera's on them at all times.
At least if you hold your phone up, or a camera up you know someone is taking an image.

What are you doing pointing your camera at those young children in the pool or on the beach?

Bad people are doing that right now. They’ve been doing it and they always will do it. They will find a way to do it easier. Just like good people.

Matter of fact, scratch “bad” from that paragraph of mine. PEOPLE will always find ways to do things and do them easier.

You can’t stop that, regardless of the technology of the day.
 
Whoever designed this mock-up thinking that Apple glasses will look like this...

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...probably also thought that the Apple Watch would look like this:

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Apple doesn’t design their wearables to look like tech gadgets. Against the cries of some of the critics here, Apple is a design and fashion company. Apple Glasses will look like regular glasses that customizable to fit each person’s individual tastes.

I can see the lenses being the defining interchangeable feature. The Glasses version of Watch bands. There’d be a few different frame styles and then you could add lenses of different shapes to modify the look of the glasses, to add lenses for the sun and to add prescription lenses.

Whatever the case, the glasses will have to look like standard glasses. If they look like a gadget, they’ll turn people off in most social situations and in places where people expect privacy.
 
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