To everyone saying they dont get the idea of a foldable phone...your solution is simple. Dont buy one. For me, if i can have a iphone and a ipad all in one device, then i want that device.
According to wiki, Liquidmetal was used in golf clubs but then those golf clubs were taken off the market due to premature failure.The disordered structure makes it difficult for cracks to form and propagate (breakage) and for the atoms to flow (plastic deformation), leading to a highly elastic and durable material. The alloy is chosen to slow down the crystal-forming process, making it easier to achieve the amorphous structure.
That doesn’t make much sense. Apple would LOVE if a foldable iPhone cannibalized sales of other iPhones. Such a foldable iPhone will be priced much, much higher, so the per unit profit would also be much, much higher.The reason Apple hasn't released a foldable phone is because they are busy for years trying to figure out how it won't cannibalize on their existing products. It's a huge part of their focus. E.g. contemplate why they don't allow 5G simcards in Mac laptops, or able to switch between iPad OS and Mac OS on an iPad. Apple isn't existing to make the greatest products. Just artifically castrated products.
I never understood what do people do with these huge tables phones? Is it still a phone or is it a tablet? Or a tablet with a sim? I personally don't think a folding tablets would be what I consider "an iPhone".
The iPod suggests otherwise, though that was a different Apple in some ways.The reason Apple hasn't released a foldable phone is because they are busy for years trying to figure out how it won't cannibalize on their existing products.
The increased width would be a nice advantage for surfing.MKBHD did an interesting video on folding phones, and this rumour. The bi-fold structure produces a pretty square shape when folded open, meaning that there isn’t much benefit for things like watching video over a non-folding Max phone. While the diagonal may be a similar dimension to an iPad Mini the shape of a Mini is much more useful.
My personal opinion is that you want a tri-fold design to go from a size and shape approximating a phone in portrait orientation to a size and shape approximating an iPad Mini in landscape orientation. That would make much more sense.
I wonder if the rumoured iPhone Air is a test mule for making thin devices so they can sandwich two or three of them together in a folding design?
Not knowing anything specific, I would hypothesize that the clubs were not made entirely out of amorphous metal, but maybe just the strike plate. I would expect that interfaces between amorphous metal and other metals would receive more stress, making the regular metal more likely to fail at these locations. Apple will have to be careful in the hinge design to avoid creating stress points in their aluminum components. Aluminum isn't a very tough material.According to wiki, Liquidmetal was used in golf clubs but then those golf clubs were taken off the market due to premature failure.
At least early on, apparently the casting method sometimes could introduce microscopic imperfections in Liquidmetal parts, leading to increased brittleness. Hopefully this is no longer an issue, after improvements in the casting process.Not knowing anything specific, I would hypothesize that the clubs were not made entirely out of amorphous metal, but maybe just the strike plate. I would expect that interfaces between amorphous metal and other metals would receive more stress, making the regular metal more likely to fail at these locations. Apple will have to be careful in the hinge design to avoid creating stress points in their aluminum components. Aluminum isn't a very tough material.
It is not that it will cannablize other iPhones, it is what it will do to iPad sales. So people like myself have an iPhone and an iPad. If I could have a foldable phone that gives me what I need out of a tablet as well as a phone then I am going to buy a foldable phone. Will the price of a foldable phone makeup for the loss of sales of an iPhone and an iPad? If it is cheaper they lose, if it is way more expensive then is the extra expense worth the price of an all in one foldable device? I am not sure. So they are left with a crazy super expensive foldable phone, which is probably where it will land, or they are left with a well priced foldable phone that reduces sales of iPads.According to wiki, Liquidmetal was used in golf clubs but then those golf clubs were taken off the market due to premature failure.
That doesn’t make much sense. Apple would LOVE if a foldable iPhone cannibalized sales of other iPhones. Such a foldable iPhone will be priced much, much higher, so the per unit profit would also be much, much higher.
The iPhone Pro Max starts at US$1199. The estimates for pricing would have a foldable iPhone start at $1999, with some estimates putting it at $2499. That’s a difference of $800 to $1300. An iPad mini costs $499. IOW, a foldable iPhone would cost much more than an iPhone Pro Max and iPad mini combined.It is not that it will cannablize other iPhones, it is what it will do to iPad sales. So people like myself have an iPhone and an iPad. If I could have a foldable phone that gives me what I need out of a tablet as well as a phone then I am going to buy a foldable phone. Will the price of a foldable phone makeup for the loss of sales of an iPhone and an iPad? If it is cheaper they lose, if it is way more expensive then is the extra expense worth the price of an all in one foldable device? I am not sure. So they are left with a crazy super expensive foldable phone, which is probably where it will land, or they are left with a well priced foldable phone that reduces sales of iPads.
Do you know what this website here is called?rumours rumours that probably means nothing
The end product will speak for itself
The entire company is worth 39 million. If Apple wanted it that bad they could spend 20 million and do a hostile takeoverI bought stock in LQMT based on those rumors. A lot of stock (but for not a lot of money). That stock is worth less now than then, since the rumors never panned out, but maybe now is when it breaks out and I can retire!
I bought at 40 cents a share, and now it's worth 4 cents. I kept it because it's hardly worth selling at that price.
I got tired of waiting, and retired anyway, almost ten years ago.
Are you really comparing skynet with Siri ? 😅Will Skynet be sending these back in time?
Maybe they needed the extra cash so diversified into cell phones
I’d be much more surprised if Apple doesn’t sell a foldable iPhone eventually. It’s a natural incremental evolution to the product line.I remember when Apple bought that liquid metal tech from the real innovators. I still have one of those SD card removal keys made from it. Honestly, I’d be surprised if Apple ever actually releases a folding phone. 🤞
exactly. came to say the same thing.minimize the crease? nothing other than 0% crease by design, to the entire living span of the product, that should be the approach.
Samsung certainly make them and they sit on demo counters untouched.I’d be much more surprised if Apple doesn’t sell a foldable iPhone eventually. It’s a natural incremental evolution to the product line.
Samsung already sells foldable iPhones in the millions.
I fully expect a foldable iPhone by 2027.
I've still got one of those SanDisk USB memory sticks with a Liquidmetal casing from about 18 years ago. It's impressively light and tough.I remember when Apple bought that liquid metal tech from the real innovators. I still have one of those SD card removal keys made from it. Honestly, I’d be surprised if Apple ever actually releases a folding phone
For a lot of people a visible crease isn't a big deal. For some people it is a big deal. Luckily Apple will sell multiple different iPhone models.exactly. came to say the same thing.
previous talk is about new manufacturing to ensure no crease.
now it's MINIMIZE? nah.
As mentioned right in my post, they are sold in the millions. Not hundreds of millions, but millions. However, this includes both flip phone styles and the mini-tablet styles. I suspect a lot of people here would love to buy a iPhone flip phone. These are 3-4" folded but 6"+ unfolded.Samsung certainly make them and they sit on demo counters untouched.
I dont think I've seen one being used in the wild yet... I'm sure some must be around.
But I've never actually hear a phone ring in public and seen someone flip it open...
Exactly……and the real reason why there is no touchscreen on MacBooks…..they are afraid it will hurt iPad sales….The reason Apple hasn't released a foldable phone is because they are busy for years trying to figure out how it won't cannibalize on their existing products. It's a huge part of their focus. E.g. contemplate why they don't allow 5G simcards in Mac laptops, or able to switch between iPad OS and Mac OS on an iPad. Apple isn't existing to make the greatest products. Just artifically castrated products.
Yeah, so much hype and then it ended up being used for the SIM Tool. Wow.Liquid metal... that's a name I haven't heard in ages. It gives me flashbacks to rumors of that time (Liquidmetal-Based iPhone 5 to Launch at WWDC in June?, or Liquidmetal Used in iPhone 3G SIM Tool, Next iPhone Too?). I can't believe thats more than 10 years ago, time really flies...