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The iPhone Pro Max starts at US$1199. The estimates for pricing would have a foldable iPhone start at $1999, with some estimates putting it at $2499. That’s a difference of $800 to $1300. An iPad mini costs $499. IOW, a foldable iPhone would cost much more than an iPhone Pro Max and iPad mini combined.

However, I personally would not buy it at even the lower estimate of $1999. Maybe $1599, but $1999 is just too expensive.
What you've mentioned is not a fair comparison to what you would get between a foldable and an iPhone 16PM with an iPad Mini. My Find N5 has 512TB of storage and Wi-Fi and cellular. Therefore, a fair comparison spec wise would be:

iPhone 16PM 512GB - $1399

iPad Mini 512GB with Cellular and Wi-Fi - $899

Total: $2298 before taxes

The price of my Find N5: $1864 out the door and that includes $25 for express shipping.
 
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What you've mentioned is not a fair comparison to what you would get between a foldable and an iPhone 16PM with an iPad Mini. My Find N5 has 512TB of storage and Wi-Fi and cellular. Therefore, a fair comparison spec wise would be:

iPhone 16PM 512GB - $1399

iPad Mini 512GB with Cellular and Wi-Fi - $899

Total: $2298 before taxes

The price of my Find N5: $1864 out the door and that includes $25 for express shipping.
I'm not sure what you're getting at. I have no interest in a 512 GB iPhone, nor do I have any interest in a 512 GB iPad with cellular. The extra storage is pretty much irrelevant to me since I use iCloud. My current iPhone is 128 GB and it's already sufficient. When I upgrade to a 256 GB iPhone 17 Pro Max, it will be more than sufficient. As for the iPad, when I use an iPad on the road, I just tether it to the iPhone, so having cellular on that is superfluous. In fact, we do have one older cellular iPad, but I haven't had a cellular plan for that one for years, because we just don't need it. For us, getting cellular on an iPad is just a waste of money, because we tether. There is no need to spend more on the cellular feature, nor is there any need to pay extra on an ongoing basis for a cellular plan.

As for the Oppo N5, I don't have any interest in any Android foldable either, and besides, it's always been true that cheaper Android phones have had higher specs like RAM and storage. This is not new information and doesn't really add to the conversation. I'm glad you like your N5 though, as it bodes well for a decent Apple foldable come 2027.
 
Will it be Apple's cybertruck ?
A lot of metal, bulletproof, great durability ☺️
And, more importantly: very expensive.
 
I'm not sure what you're getting at. I have no interest in a 512 GB iPhone, nor do I have any interest in a 512 GB iPad with cellular. The extra storage is pretty much irrelevant to me since I use iCloud. My current iPhone is 128 GB and it's already sufficient. When I upgrade to a 256 GB iPhone 17 Pro Max, it will be more than sufficient. As for the iPad, when I use an iPad on the road, I just tether it to the iPhone, so having cellular on that is superfluous. In fact, we do have one older cellular iPad, but I haven't had a cellular plan for that one for years, because we just don't need it. For us, getting cellular on an iPad is just a waste of money, because we tether. There is no need to spend more on the cellular feature, nor is there any need to pay extra on an ongoing basis for a cellular plan.

As for the Oppo N5, I don't have any interest in any Android foldable either, and besides, it's always been true that cheaper Android phones have had higher specs like RAM and storage. This is not new information and doesn't really add to the conversation. I'm glad you like your N5 though, as it bodes well for a decent Apple foldable come 2027.
What I'm getting at is with a fair comparison of storage and Wi-Fi and Cellular between the devices, it puts the current foldables at a cheaper price point that buying both an iPhone 16PM and an iPad Mini. And yes, competition is always good.
 
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What I'm getting at is with a fair comparison of storage and Wi-Fi and Cellular between the devices, it puts the current foldables at a cheaper price point that buying both an iPhone 16PM and an iPad Mini. And yes, competition is always good.
The original conversation was comparing pricing of an iPhone + iPad combo to a foldable iPhone. There was no mention of Android whatsoever. The fact that your particular 512 GB Oppo foldable is cheaper than what pundits are predicting for an Apple foldable is a surprise to almost nobody, and is tangential to the original conversation.
 
The original conversation was comparing pricing of an iPhone + iPad combo to a foldable iPhone. There was no mention of Android whatsoever. The fact that your particular 512 GB Oppo foldable is cheaper than what pundits are predicting for an Apple foldable is a surprise to almost nobody, and is tangential to the original conversation.
Ah, my mistake!
 
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Are we back to Liquid Metal meme?

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I remember thinking for years that with using Liquid Metal for the SIM ejector tool they were scaling up its use to use it on a larger product later. That product never came, and they eventually switched back to cheaper steel for the sim ejector now.
 
If we're talking only about Samsung here. I personally prefer their zFlip more than their zFold. I know I will get roasted for saying this, but the zFold is just too big. I also much prefer the clamshell form factor of the zFlip personally. I like what Samsung has done with the flip and the ability to reduce its size to a small wallet. I would much more prefer to travel with a device that can minimize its total size, than one that can only minimize its width.

To me if Apple is going to do this right it has to start with the hinges and their ability to move at precise fraction's of an inch. How the phone looks unfolded is very important, but equally important is how the phone will look once closed. I hope that Apple doesn't cheapen out on the screen tech that they plan to use on the exterior of the phone, versus the interior. For example, I would hate it if Apple used an expensive OLED panel for the interior screen and then used a cheap LCD screen for the outer panel, To me the features that Samsung has added to their flip phone when it's closed, like the ability to finish watching a video, is what really gives you that wow factor.
 
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I remember everyone harping on the Apple television and on project Titan and nothing ever came to fruition
If Apple was going to have a iPhone fold you would have seen it already
If Apple makes a fold and the price is $2500 people will keep it for 5 years before upgrading. So how does Apple make $$$$
 
I remember everyone harping on the Apple television and on project Titan and nothing ever came to fruition
If Apple was going to have a iPhone fold you would have seen it already
If Apple makes a fold and the price is $2500 people will keep it for 5 years before upgrading. So how does Apple make $$$$
Uh, wut? I'm still on my iPhone 12 Pro Max from 2020. I guess by your logic, Apple is losing money on me. 🤪
 
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Does Apple still have exclusive rights on Liquidmetal?

I may be wrong but from my understanding this alloy is quite a brittle metal? So it wont deform but instead fail catastrophically. I guess that means less wonky folding phones, but maybe more that just snap in half?
The company has to check with Apple for any other company that wants to use it for consumer purposes. Not ALL purposes, but any that may infringe on Apple’s agreement with them. Apple approved some product a few weeks ago, for example.
 
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I’m guessing it will be launched March 2027 if it’s not delayed. They probably don’t want to launch it with the other iPhones in September. They want this guy to get all of the attention.
 
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The reason Apple hasn't released a foldable phone is because they are busy for years trying to figure out how it won't cannibalize on their existing products.
They haven’t released a folding phone because the technology isn’t there to make tens of millions in a year. The top selling folding phones sell way less than that.

Generally speaking, if something isn’t on an iPhone it’s either “they don’t want to do it” or, they go to parts makers and ask “Can you have 50 million of these ready for us by next June with another 50 million ready by the 4th quarter.” And no one answers “YES!”
 
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That doesn’t make much sense. Apple would LOVE if a foldable iPhone cannibalized sales of other iPhones. Such a foldable iPhone will be priced much, much higher, so the per unit profit would also be much, much higher.
EVERYtime I read “Apple doesn’t want to cannibalize”, they have a HISTORY of cannibalizing their stuff. If Apple were like other companies, we’d be wondering if Apple’s going to finally discontinue the IIGS THIS YEAR :)
 
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In what year will a foldable iPhone be $1,000 USD?
Some of the existing flip phones with foldable screens are already well under US$1000. These are 3-4" when folded but 6-7" when unfolded.

I guess it depends on what Apple chooses to release and when. The ones that unfold into iPad mini sized devices will be very expensive for quite some time, but the ones that unfold into an iPhone Pro Max sized device would be priced much lower.
 
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The entire company is worth 39 million. If Apple wanted it that bad they could spend 20 million and do a hostile takeover
It’d be more of a headache than it’s worth for them. Plus, they don’t need to own it if they “own” the rights they’d be interested in, which they do. They figure out how to manufacture things, make the hardware required to manufacture things, ship that hardware to partner sites, then Apple just steps in and says “make this” knowing that if anyone else wants them to make that, Apple can say “no”. It’s not technically owning the widget, but it’s still restricting others from doing what you can do.
 
I'm not anti, just wondering what people do with a phone this big. Where do you carry it? What do you do with it? Is it purely digital content digest that can't be done on a laptop or iPad or a TV? Is it even being used as a phone, an iPod and an internet communicator? :D
notes, writing, drawing, reading, without lugging a laptop or an ipad around.
 
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If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will.
- Steve Jobs
And yet, people will still think that Apple doesn’t want to cannibalize their products. :) There are MILLIONS of Macs each year that aren’t sold because most people prefer the OS that works like the one on their phone over macOS. Their entire desktop line has been eaten up by their mobile products. They’re perfectly fine with someone choosing one Apple product over another. Their entire desktop concern they’d have is if anyone were to buy a NON-Apple product.
 
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