I said this in another thread but will say it here as well... it will be called iPhone Air. You heard it here first!
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Kuo: iPhone 11 Demand and Upcoming Launch of 'iPhone SE 2' to Boost Overall iPhone Sales Growth in Q1 2020
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It was really the whole ecosystem.
Other competitors can only copy the form (ie: the hardware) but not the essence (the whole integrated experience). It’s like a restaurant sourcing its beef from the same pasture as another, but lacking the skills to cook it properly, or the knowledge of Apple’s secret sauce which is what really adds flavour to the whole dish.
At the end of the day, they can only do so much to differentiate their offerings from the rest of the competition, and it shows in the prices they can charge.
I'm hoping the SE2 is slightly smaller than the current phones. I have an 8 and I don't want to go any bigger. This is about the biggest screen I would go for a phone.
The SE hardware is 4 years old now. For smartphone tech that's pretty old, so I'm not surprised you don't see a lot.
I still see plenty of SEs in the wild in Japan. They also have their domestic brands making smaller Androids than I notice elsewhere. A new one would probably do very well there.
But upgrading the 8 and calling it a new SE? Dumb idea.
SE fans would have just got the 8 if that interested them. Or a 6 or 7 or X or any of the others.
But the main point of the SE is the size, not the cost. There are no small phones these days, but there are plenty of great cheap options.
I only switched to iphone a few years ago because my Sony Z3 Compact broke, in a year when they refreshed it with something not great (X compact). The Z3 was awesome, and a perfect size. So if Sony wasn't inflating the size of their new Compacts, and every other brand wasn't only selling phablets, I wouldn't have upgraded to a 128gb SE a few months ago.
I suspect a good small phone from ANY brand would get a lot of SE users jumping ship in a moment.
But upgrading the 8 and calling it a new SE? Dumb idea.
SE fans would have just got the 8 if that interested them. Or a 6 or 7 or X or any of the others.
But the main point of the SE is the size, not the cost. There are no small phones these days, but there are plenty of great cheap options.
I only switched to iphone a few years ago because my Sony Z3 Compact broke, in a year when they refreshed it with something not great (X compact). The Z3 was awesome, and a perfect size. So if Sony wasn't inflating the size of their new Compacts, and every other brand wasn't only selling phablets, I wouldn't have upgraded to a 128gb SE a few months ago.
I suspect a good small phone from ANY brand would get a lot of SE users jumping ship in a moment.
The phone is supposed to be the iPhone 8 with some internal changes (i.e. same size as iPhone 8).
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When my SE dies and I can't get a replacement, I plan on getting the smallest smartphone, iPhone or not.
I use it primarily to make calls.
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Crazy some people still think SE was attractive because of size. The 4.7" SE2 tells you unequivocally what Apple thinks based on their own sales numbers.
It's like pointing at the sun and saying it's dark.
Yes, Apple is making a grave "mistake" not keeping the 4-inch dead end form factor. 😆
It's like pointing at the sun and saying it's dark.
Yes, Apple is making a grave "mistake" not keeping the 4-inch dead end form factor. 😆
Size was basically the entire selling point of the SE. But now it's more about the body size than screen size. Keeping the body about the same but updating the phone beyond 2014 specs would be an instant upgrade for many SE users. Myself included, and others I know who have deliberately stuck with this phone.
Because even as someone who jumped from Android just for the SE and recently bought a second one, entirely due to size, it always felt like a pretty crap phone to buy. The hardware was dated the day it came out, and simply being the cheapest iphone doesn't mean it was ever particularly great value.
I don't know why anyone would have ever chosen it over other options, except for a) size or b) cheap+iphone+uninterested in tech.
So if Apple was just wanting to keep those (b) customers they could just slap a new "budget" name on the iphone 8, and not waste any time designing a new model that will crush the faint hopes of all those (a) users and have them looking around for anything else on the market.
This is the definition of a false dichotomy. Why would or should people care about something that 99% of them are unable to use?
Oh, so, in one year, when Apple does include a 5G modem, its gonna be all of a sudden relevant to 99% of them; even when actual 5G coverage still won't be there?
My point was, it wasn't a deal-breaker. In fact, Apple could ship the next two revisions of the iPhone without it.
No, that's what Apple thought and why they came up with that model.
I surely could afford the iPhone 11 Prozac if I wanted a phablet. Luckily my life is not empty and I don't need to fill out that emptiness with a big phablet.
I solely bought the SE because of the size. Two other good selling points were the iconic design and the flush cam.
Of course I want the best camera, the best processor and OLED. But not at the cost of overall size.
If the new SE is not an upgraded SE or a complete new compact design, if the new SE is just an upgraded iPhone 8, then that product will fail epically in the western world. Maybe it has a chance in India or China (especially with Superdark Mode), but it will be a total disaster and betrayal of current high income SE users.
I just can't believe that those Bozos from Apple completely ignore the wishes of that giant group of customers which makes at least 20% of all iPhone buyers.
Apple has completely lost track, going from Apple Computer Inc over Apple Inc to Apple Services and Subscriptions Inc.
They thing small Phones is bad for their Arcade and TV business. They will soon realize, that their Arcade and TV business is bad for their Arcade and TV business.
Nobody wants silly games for 6 year olds, and since they lost Disney and The Mandalorian, Apple TV will have ZERO interesting Shows to offer.