We don’t know the breakdown of the cost would include for the AirPods in the box. But let’s go back to the basics, lets give the consumer the option of what they want in terms of Bluetooth earbuds, as that’s a very personal choice in terms of fitment, comfort and overall preference of branding, ect. I can tell you right now, if Apple included the regular AirPods in the box, I would turn around and sell them in a second, because I already own plenty of other Bluetooth options that I don’t want the regular AirPods. Do you see my point? Apple can stop including the wired earbuds, but they certainly don’t need to include the AirPods, because that would only increase the price point, Which would be passed on to the consumer. It’s not a smart business move, at all.
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Kuo: iPhone 12 May Not Come With EarPods in the Box, Apple to Introduce AirPods Promotion in Second Half of 2020
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We don’t know the breakdown of the cost would include for the AirPods in the box. But let’s go back to the basics, lets give the consumer the option of what they want in terms of Bluetooth earbuds, as that’s a very personal choice in terms of fitment, comfort and overall preference of branding, ect. I can tell you right now, if Apple included the regular AirPods in the box, I would turn around and sell them in a second, because I already own plenty of other Bluetooth options that I don’t want the regular AirPods. Do you see my point? Apple can stop including the wired earbuds, but they certainly don’t need to include the AirPods, because that would only increase the price point, Which would be passed on to the consumer. It’s not a smart business move, at all.
selling them would be your decision and would save you around $100 on the phone. Win for the customer, win for Apple. Now they can brag about how they are helping customers.
Apple could easily afford this and probably increase profits in the long game. But it’s all about short term profits.
No,‘ it’s not a win’ for the customer, because Apple will be transferring the cost to the consumer of including the AirPods. You seem to be under the notion that the price point will be more ‘attractive’, and somebody can just sell them if they so choose, that only would raise the price of the smart phone as it is. Somebody has to pay for the cost of including the AirPods, who do you suspect is paying for that? Yup, You guessed it, the consumer is, and I can tell you right now, Apple in this current economic standpoint, cannot afford to raise the price of the iPhone by XYZ dollars. That’s not going to happen and it’s not a logical decision from a business standpoint.
applr could easily afford to include AirPods with new phones and keep the same prices. But that would cut into their profit and we know Apple is about profit not the customer anymore.
I’m not trying to be inconsiderate, but this isn’t difficult to understand. If Apple includes the AirPods, the consumer pays the added costs, which only raises the price of the iPhone, It’s not a good business practice, because the economy can’t support a more expensive iPhone as it already stands. It’s not about what Apple ‘could easily afford’ to do, the consumer can’t afford inflated smart phone Prices as they are today . Nor are they going to purchase a phone that expensive with a raised cost with included AirPods.
Lightning EarPods are not very useful with other devices, but I’ve used my wired 3.5mm EarPods constantly for talking on my computer. And they are the headphones of choice for anyone using Zoom nowadays. Much better sound quality both ways than using AirPods for calls, unless you can switch to using your Mac’s internal microphone (which you can’t on a phone).
Apple really needs to develop a better codec for phone calls on wireless headphones, or the wired ones will always have an advantage.
Which get used over time with use. So when I get new phone I'd like to get new headphones with it.
If it didn't come at first I wouldn't be angry but it's just like saying why do you need a charger for it? You most probably have one charger anyway because your old iphone had the same cable. So let's remove the charger and put it up for $49,99.
Profits over customers is a meme at this point. Apple is business and not a charity. Rolex could afford to sell it's top model for $500 as well. See how easy it is to throw any old thing out there.
I agree business is all about profit. The problem I have is Apple preaches morality and then is as immoral as any other business
A for profit business being about profit, unlike a section 501(c)(3) business, is not an unusual occurrence. What is a meme is profits over customers, every company that tried that has failed, eg Enron.
Apple preaches morality and practices what it preaches. I see no disconnect there. YMMV though. One opinion for, one opinion against. But you wrote a blanket statement that pertains to the topic, how?
If true. This will be apples next big attempt to push towards a more wireless future. All gearing towards a future port-less iPhone.
Apple sells 200 million iPhones a year. They can’t make anywhere near that many AirPods a year. It makes no sense to have your supply of iPhones be constrained in such a way.
It’s less about profits and more about logistics.
To be honest it’s about time someone made the move. I hope this follows with other manufacturers too.
There are too many unused headphones and chargers from new phones, littering peoples cupboards and drawers. I don’t know anybody who delves further into their box than the device itself, until such time as they need a replacement usb cable for their charger.
People have massively moved towards wireless headphones, now that the audio quality and battery life is acceptable enough. It’s very rare to find people with wired headphones when they’re running, in the gym, or even on the walk to work.
The charger brick should be on the list for removal too as these are seldom used.
There are too many unused headphones and chargers from new phones, littering peoples cupboards and drawers. I don’t know anybody who delves further into their box than the device itself, until such time as they need a replacement usb cable for their charger.
People have massively moved towards wireless headphones, now that the audio quality and battery life is acceptable enough. It’s very rare to find people with wired headphones when they’re running, in the gym, or even on the walk to work.
The charger brick should be on the list for removal too as these are seldom used.
If it were up to me, I'd include a coupon with the iPhone that could be exchanged for one free EarPods set or provide an equivalent discount against AirPods.
No charging port? That'll work well with navigation apps in the car. Wireless charging totally screws the GPS function with the speed indication wandering +/- 15-20 km/hr every 30" or so. Oh, and not everyone has CarPlay or uses stupid navigation apps that are useless without a continuous broadband connection. Not directed at you dude, just my general frustration with the stupid design decisions being made and the outsourcing (greatly increased cost, reliability and inconvenience) of the connection ability of Apple devices
Not in the least bit interested in Bluetooth powered AirPods thanks. They might be trying to force people down that route but they need to offer something a bit more competitive on price and factor in that many users don’t like Bluetooth signals around their heads.
I can see myself being forced to not use my iPhone for music entirely in the coming years.
I can see myself being forced to not use my iPhone for music entirely in the coming years.