Seems unlikely. People are already complaining that they have to many chargers. As for selling new ones, just throw the brick in a bag like most second class Apple accessories.
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Kuo: iPhone 12 Models Won't Include Charger in Box, 20W Power Adapter Will Be Sold Separately
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Seems unlikely. People are already complaining that they have to many chargers. As for selling new ones, just throw the brick in a bag like most second class Apple accessories.
Counterpoint: anyone still plugging their iPhone into a receptacle to charge it should be ashamed of themselves.
I seriously don't get all the hate. People act like they don't have an open USB port anywhere, but I suspect that it's just more fun to bash "greedy Apple" than it is to think too deeply about anything.
Anyway, I haven't used an in-the-box charger for a phone for years. My MBP with a USB-C port charges the phone much faster. Not ashamed.
I hope Apple just do this for the EU models, since they're the only one giving Apple a hard time on not having USB-C on the iPhone.
Your argument is circular. It’s only penny-pinching if they remove the charger, don’t reduce the price, and also don’t add in a second cable. You start with the premise that it’s penny-pinching, therefore they must not add a second cable.Do you think Apple will include 2 cables if they're already penny pinching by excluding earpods and the charger?
Eh, no. A person who already has a charger can simply keep using that and won't need to buy a new one. That's literally the whole point of the argument!
Even if I didn't have an existing Qi charger, I also have existing multi-port chargers so that I can charge iPad, Kindle, watch, etc without needing a power strip. Factor out everyone that (a) already has Qi, (b) already has a multi-port, (c) wants one of the above anyway, or (d) already has a !#$-ton of older chargers lying around... I'd be amazed if 10% of the in-box chargers ever get actually "Used".
Do you also want TVs to include a wall power outlet? What you're missing is that after 13 years of iPhones and years before that for other phones and electronics, USB chargers are so ubiquitous that unless you're buying your very first smart phone, you have a least a few of them laying around the house. My refrigerator doesn't come with a power outlet. Whatever shall I do?
The keynote glossing over this will be hilarious, don't they always do a "what's in the box" thing? They'll list the instructions and USB-C or Lightning Cable and then quickly move on.
People have too many USB-A chargers, that I can agree on. But how many people actually have USB-C charger? Even Apple only just include it on the iPhone 11 Pro models. So majority of buyers won't have the right charger if Apple put lightning to USB-C cable in the box.
In the end, it's net positive (more e-waste). It's not really saving Apple any cost as well as they still have to make and ship those USB-C chargers separately.
I think you meant cable, but your point was dead on. Most large appliances don't come with a power cable and those typically require experience to attach.
Should we also discuss this article when it's a fact and not a rumor too?
Yeah, it is edgy to discuss rumours. But it is a lot more edgy to talk about rumours on top of rumours.
13 years of iPhones have USB-A charger. USB-C charger is only included in iPhone 11 Pro models. The rumor is that Apple will include lightning to USB-C cable on iPhone 12. So most people won't have the appropriate charger.
I think yours is a reasonable assumption. At the same time, let's remember that iPhone 11 Pro Max (4G/512GB) costs $1450 and Samsung Galaxy S20+ (5G/512GB) costs $1150 (dropped from $1350). Both prices are from Best Buy. And S20+ includes the charger and ear buds.
Sure, me too. But like I said, the number of USB chargers one has after 13 years of iPhones and years before that from other electronics, I have something like triple the number of USB chargers that of available wall sockets in my home and other places I keep a charger. Hence the box full of unwrapped chargers. These things don't stop working after a couple of years. I literally have my very first iPhone charger still plugged in my kitchen. That thing is 13 years old.
They could use their existing lightning to USB-A cables with their current chargers... those don't stop working. I'm sympathetic to the argument that there aren't as many USB-C chargers in homes yet, but we'll eventually get to the same point from an e-waste perspective. Frankly, I also prefer choice with respect to chargers. I like Anker and Aukey's chargers more than Apple's. If I'm replacing all my chargers, it's going to be with GaN ones, not some Apple half measure.
I currently have three Apple chargers. I still use the first one that came with my iPhone 6s, the other charger I have is for my Apple Watch and the other one is for my iPad Pro. I sometimes alternate between my iPad Pro and 6s charger for my iPhone X. I actually never bothered to use the one that came with the X.
I can understand the reasoning in a saturated market, even when your phone dies, you likely end up keeping a charger around for longer which can still usable. But if the charger adds to the cost of the product, I hope this at least means Apple will make the iPhone 12 cheaper to buy.
I can understand the reasoning in a saturated market, even when your phone dies, you likely end up keeping a charger around for longer which can still usable. But if the charger adds to the cost of the product, I hope this at least means Apple will make the iPhone 12 cheaper to buy.
*sigh
Your argument is correct if Apple include lightning to USB-A cable with iPhone 12. It is highly likely that everyone already have a USB-A charger somewhere.
BUT, the rumor is that Apple will include lightning to USB-C cable with the iPhone 12. How many people have USB-C chargers? Even Apple only just include them with the iPhone 11 Pro. So unless you're an existing iPhone 11 Pro user, it is more likely that you don't have a right charger, thus you will have to buy a new one anyway.
That's illogical. If one person doesn't buy a new charger that will offset the plastic bag that hundreds of people who purchased the charger used up. But giving one charger to someone who doesn't use it causes more waste than those bags.
Nintendo has bigger fans than apple. Nintendo fans will buy multiple 3ds consoles because of special colours.