Kuo: iPhone 14 Pro's Larger Camera Bump Due to New 48MP Camera System

[Danfango]

And what other advantages does the 48 mp camera have besides 8K video?

Absolutely none. I have printed some stuff on 10x8” and the 12MP is fine. I’m sure I could triple that size easily.

I’d rather have larger pixels on the same size sensor than lots of smaller ones.

Now what would really be nice is if the camera wasn’t three ****** prime lenses with horrible digital zoom pretending to be an adequate replacement for a real optical zoom. That’s 100x more important than more pixels, because even at 48MP you’re going to hit the resolution wall in the gaps between the 1x and 3x cameras hard. And to boot you’re going to have smaller pixels at high zooms which means less light capture.

Typical problem I have is I need to zoom to 2.9x for a subject so even with 4x the pixel density that’s only 2x the pixels on each axis which doesn’t add up.

 

[Falhófnir]

Pixel binning. Images will still come out 12mp but the ISP has 4 times the data to work with now for things like focus, exposure, sharpening, HDR. Would be nice to get RAW 48mp but doubt we will.

Also potentially lossless digital zoom @12MP as you can crop down until you're using just 12MP worth of sensor pixels. Maybe that's less needed with having the zoom lens but it'd be nice if/when it makes it's way to the regular iPhone. I would also like to see the option for 16MP and possibly 20MP and full res 48MP. 12MP is a little low for resolving fine details like fine tree branches, at this point now we've got decent sized sensors the resolution probably is one of the bottlenecks to better image quality once again.

 

[nikaru]

Why not make the phone thicker to compensate for the larger camera system? It seems like the iPhone camera will intentionally never be flush again.

Why not make a slim and light iPhone that has just enough camera capability for the normal/average people that don't live in Instagram and couldn't care less about the HDR performance of their videos and the dolby atmos support.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Why not make the phone thicker to compensate for the larger camera system? It seems like the iPhone camera will intentionally never be flush again.

Right?! And Apple can fill it with more battery capacity. Gonna need it with 8K 60fps video recording.

 

[SoldOnApple]

As long as cases accomodate the bump I don't see a problem. Though a 5mm thick case is kinda pushing it.

 

[adrianlondon]

*takes one photo*

 

[Juzam]

Here, CIS stands for CMOS Image Sensor, not Contact Image Sensor.

 

[0924487]

edit/crop on what? iPhone? 5k Mac monitor? 6k Mac monitor? it's a niche, even most iPhone Pro users don't edit videos ...

On a Mac.

You film wide angle in 8K, then crop in for a feature shot and still get 4K

 

[mazz0]

Lol, and Prosser who predicted that the bump would be eliminated and flush with the back of the phone this year

OMG, imagine if they finally gave us *options*! Flat phone for those of us who don’t give a damn about the camera, massive bump for people who care about it.

 

[Reggaenald]

Why not make a slim and light iPhone that has just enough camera capability for the normal/average people that don't live in Instagram and couldn't care less about the HDR performance of their videos and the dolby atmos support.

That’s a very small niche, not profitable enough.

 

[kcslc]

They need to brag about how "thin" the new phone is.

A phones “thinness” needs to be measured at the thickest point of the phone. Crazy concept, I know.

 

[svish]

Expecting a much better camera system on iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max this year.

 

[OJK]

I find the camera bump far more of a problem than the notch. Just make the phone thicker and add battery capacity.

It would become a very heavy phone. ?‍♂️

 

[Kid Red]

Why not make the phone thicker to compensate for the larger camera system? It seems like the iPhone camera will intentionally never be flush again.

I guarantee that if Steve were still alive, they would've found a way to make the back flush before the first one ever shipped. It's so annoying because even with a case, it rocks when laying flat on a table.

 

[cicton]

so, are we in agreement that Prosser's iPhone 14 was wrong?

 

[0924487]

a 48mp camera only matters if they offer lossless compression in the default camera app.

And USB-C

 

[dalestrauss]

If they are not going to give us an optical 10x zoom camera in that form factor, then quit messing with higher resolution video (who needs 8k in a phone) and go back to a flat backed shooter. Maybe the real answer is to just build their own camera already.

 

[brofkand]

I guarantee that if Steve were still alive, they would've found a way to make the back flush before the first one ever shipped. It's so annoying because even with a case, it rocks when laying flat on a table.

Or even if they did need a bump, it would be more graceful than the tumors we see today. I recall they made the iPhone 3G thicker to hold a larger battery, but it was gracefully done with the tapered design that fit wonderfully in the hand.

 

[turbineseaplane]

personally would rather have a phone 12mp but bigger sensor for better light grabbing photos than high megapixel fake over sharpened photos that we usually see now in iphones.

I completely agree with this.

I see some great photos out of current iPhones …

…and I also see a whole bunch that are over smoothed or over sharpened or fake this or fake that and it’s clear as day and looks terrible and I don’t understand what’s going on

 

[kyleh22]

Free icloud will only hold like 5 photos now lol

 

[EugW]

I completely agree with this.

I see some great photos out of current iPhones …

…and I also see a whole bunch that are over smoothed or over sharpened or fake this or fake that and it’s clear as day and looks terrible and I don’t understand what’s going on

I agree, Apple needs to ease off on the smoothing. Too much detail lost.

 

[Tagbert]

Why not make a slim and light iPhone that has just enough camera capability for the normal/average people that don't live in Instagram and couldn't care less about the HDR performance of their videos and the dolby atmos support.

Perhaps we could interest you in a new phone with 5G and only 1 camera?

iPhone

Designed for Apple Intelligence. Discover the iPhone 16e along with iPhone 16 Pro, iPhone 16, and iPhone 15.

www.apple.com

 

[turbineseaplane]

Perhaps we could interest you in a new phone with 5G and only 1 camera?

iPhone

Designed for Apple Intelligence. Discover the iPhone 16e along with iPhone 16 Pro, iPhone 16, and iPhone 15.

www.apple.com

The "new" phone with an 8 year old design

 

[Oscar_440]

I dont care if its 7000x megapixels.

If the iphone 14 pro does the same TERRIBLE watercoloring processing that the 13 pro does, im done.

all i want is my grainy film like photos back, when zooming

Absolutely…

 

[Wildkraut]

Why not make the phone thicker to compensate for the larger camera system? It seems like the iPhone camera will intentionally never be flush again.

What benefit would you have with a flush phone? Where it sucks its on the iPad, because its use-case is often flat on the table, but the iPhone is 99%+ of the time being hold or in a pocket. I have no problem with a bump, but it’s getting bigger and bigger and soon it will become hilarious.