Actually it's not so much the typing, although that's a bit cumbersome, it's mostly about reaching the top of the screen, which is close to impossible for me.
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Kuo: iPhone 15 Pro Max to Account for 35–40% of New iPhone Shipments
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Haha I do that too, with the watch 😆
Same here. But I have to get a good look at the final specs - specifically weight and battery life.
I love my Mini, its just the battery and the 3rd lens that I could really do with - in my work I have to take a lot of shots of diagrams and labels etc, and the Mini just doesn't seem to like close ups!
I understand it for those carry a purse or bag, since putting it in one of those of course minimizes the inconvenience of the Max's added size and weight—but, agreed, it's an entirely different story for those who need it to fit in their pockets.
There’s no use in counter-arguing about what one finds “big”. It’s completely subjective. It’s like arguing over a favorite color.
But if one still wants to defend the Max, just point to its popularity. Popularity is the only quasi-objective way to validate a subjective opinion. The Max is quite popular.
Out of curiosity, can you possibly give your thoughts on the below, and what advantages and use cases the Max gives you in real life usage, and why my impressions on the Pro vs Max might be misguided?
When I compare an Pro and Pro Max, the Max is mostly just longer, with very little in the way of extra width. And that extra length makes it awkward to fit in my pants pockets when I'm sitting down. So, for myself, as much as I love the biggest screen possible (I live on my 16" MBP, and not even the lovely new 15" MBA will tempt me to that slightly smaller screen), a phone has to fit in my pocket, so unfortunately, that kills the Max for me, especially since I can't see the benefit with very little extra width.
Nobody forces you to buy the newest iPhone? As far as I know I haven't heard any case where Tim pointed the gun to anybody and forced him to buy the newest and most expensive iPhone. Just do it like me: I buy 3-5 and resell most of them for a higher price.
I didn't say anybody was forced to buy the newest iPhone, in fact I said most people don't pay £1200 for a phone. It would change things dramatically if more people adopted that mindset and hopefully as prices go up, that will be a more common approach.
The dimensions of the 14 pro are 147.5 x 71.5 x 7.9mmI remember my dad and I walking into our gym back when the original Galaxy Note came out and some guy was standing outside using one. We thought it was comically big. "That guy looks like he's using a tablet!"
That phone is smaller than the iPhone 14 Pro. Not the Max, the Pro.
The first Note was 146.8 x 83 x 9.7 mm.
The Note is slightly shorter but it’s a bigger phone overall.
And again, if Apple wants to charge 1200£ for a Phone, where's the problem? Tbh, that isn't even that much here in Switzerland. I know people in London too who makes that amount in very little time.
Everything is rising, so why not the prices? If Apple makes 256GB as standard storage, it's justified for me. I was going to purchase 256GB anyway.
Its not unaffordable to me either but it is for many. Even the standard iPhone 14 is £949 now.
Sod the modest earners eh? Good for you.
People have shown that where iPhones are concerned, they want the best and are willing to pay for the best (especially in Asia, where I see more pro than base iphone models). I am not surprised that the pro max models will end up being their most popular option.
As for sales, I suspect they will sell slightly less units, but make up for it via higher margins (either price hikes, cost savings from cheaper components, or both). Not because of the economy though, but more that market penetration in the US is more or less saturated and bulk of sales go to upgraders and android switchers.
I have no problems keeping my 13 pro max in my pants pocket, or walking around with it everywhere I go.
I went with the larger form factor for the battery life, and since I do a fair amount of reading from my phone (eg: email, google docs, safari, social media), so a larger screen helps in this regard as well.
That is probably true in certain countries but standard iPhones are a lot more popular in Europe I would say. The vast majority of iPhones I see in public and in daily use have dual camera's on the back. With the news China is now the iPhone's biggest market, it may be that Pro phones sell better globally by the sales there alone.
Higher retail costs have been masking the drops in unit sales for years. I think that is why Apple decided to stop talking about sales in their marketing and switched to revenue instead as it sounded more impressive. The smartphone market slowed at the end of 2015 and has never quite gone back to the boom we saw during the faster technology development years before smartphones matured.
That, and they are no longer as reliant on selling iPhones for revenue. They have an impressive ecosystem that continues to earn them money even if a customer no longer upgrades as frequently. Sure, all other things equal, Apple would still rather have people buy more iPhones, but slowing upgrade cycles is not the death knell people make it out to be.
Feels like every tech cycle in summary. Progress is fast initially (in part spurred by intense competition in the sector), but then the technology becomes good enough and subsequent improvements are no longer as meaningful or impactful for the end user.
I still remember back when PC specs improved so quickly that my first PC felt outdated the week I bought it (I think it came with like 8mb of ram and 16mb soon became the standard a few weeks later, and I was pretty bummed that it couldn't play one of the then hottest games on the market). Now, my iMac can easily last me 6-7 years and is still going strong and it doesn't really matter that its CPU is from 2017).
Hi there, former 12 Mini owner here (I miss it dearly). Can’t speak for others, but I’ve never seen anybody here say they’ll never buy another iPhone due to the only new models being bigger than the Mini.
Your quote reminded me of something Warren Buffet said some time ago.
Warren Buffett: iPhone owners would give up second car first
Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett believes Apple offers a highly desirable product in the iPhone, one that consumers would give up a second car to keep.
appleinsider.com
I think we are past the point of the iPhone being some optional, luxury good and well into the territory of it being an integral part of one's livelihood. Sure, an argument can be made that one could save some money by opting for a cheaper android phone that does the same basic stuff, but when you think about it, what's $1000 over 3-4 years? That $25 a month is not going to make or break the bank, and an iPhone actually makes financial sense when you also take into account the longer software support, iMessage and better build quality.
Your quote reminded me of something Warren Buffet said some time ago.
Warren Buffett: iPhone owners would give up second car first
Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett believes Apple offers a highly desirable product in the iPhone, one that consumers would give up a second car to keep.
I think we are past the point of the iPhone being some optional, luxury good and well into the territory of it being an integral part of one's livelihood. Sure, an argument can be made that one could save some money by opting for a cheaper android phone that does the same basic stuff, but when you think about it, what's $1000 over 3-4 years? That $25 a month is not going to make or break the bank, and an iPhone actually makes financial sense when you also take into account the longer software support, iMessage and better build quality.
Quite a few of my close friends use Android phones and there was a time where pretty much everyone I knew used an iPhone. It’s not due to cost maybe, as none of my friends are particularly poor, most run their own businesses or work in the same industry as me. Android isn’t what it used to be either, and from what I’ve seen it offers everything iPhones do, just packaged differently. I’ve noticed friends switching in the last 2 years mostly and Apple Watches swapped for Garmin equivalents. I’m one of the few in my running circles that uses an Apple Watch and Garmin and Polar seem to be king there. When I’ve asked people why they’ve changed away from iPhones, the answer is always that they’ve fancied something different and we’re bored of the iPhone.
So my point is, people do change and my anecdotal account is a small snippet, but I’m sure the wider picture shows others do too. When we consider the iPhone 15 is going to be much the same as the iPhone 14, but titanium, periscope camera, usb-c or whatever minor update with a price increase, it’s always tempting to try something new.