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The expected Studio Display Pro is not a refresh, it's an additional product to be sold alongside the Studio Display at a different price point.

Ross Young was pretty clear about this in his tweet when he called it a "Pro" version, not an update of the Studio Display, so I don't get why so many here confuse this with a refresh.
i think he meant a replace for the current 6k XDR display, not for the just announced studio display
 
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I really don't see what they are going to upgrade the 11 Pro with then to make it worthwhile to upgrade for this year. My bet now is we don't see the 11 Pro updated until 2023.
 
I have been waiting for the 11” with miniLED since the introduction of the M1 iPP. Guess I would take the M1 iPad Air instead.

This is very disappointing. I’m waiting for the new 11’ iPad Pro, and I was hoping it would get the new display ?

What's so appealing about the 11-inch iPad Pro? Why not just get the 12.9-inch iPad Pro? The difference is just two inches, it's not like it's dramatically larger. And if you want all the power of the Pro version of the iPad, wouldn't you prefer a larger screen anyway?

Or put it differently, if you want a smaller iPad, why does it have to be the Pro version?

Genuinely asking, because I don't fully understand the point of the smaller iPad Pro within the iPad product line.
 
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I wonder if the Apple Studio Display was originally planned to be Mini-LED and ProMotion, but supply constraints and cost pressures pushed it too far upmarket for Apple's comfort. Before the event, we were hearing rumors of the new display being upwards of $2500 (with the optional $400 stand) and while that was still less than half the price of a Pro Display XDR, it makes the actual price of the Apple Studio Display look "thrifty" in comparison. And the current Apple Studio Display is a much better monitor overall than the slightly less expensive LG UltraFine so Apple could make a legitimate case on purchasing it over the UltraFine.

I feel the Studio Display was always meant to be conventional LED. Kuo continues to believe there will be an iMac Pro next year and I agree. There is a high-end iPad, high-end MacBook, but where is the high end iMac?

  • iPad - mini LED
  • MacBook - mini LED
  • iMac - ?

Kuo's original prediction for mini LED back in early 2020 includes an iMac Pro:

The trend for Apple’s development and promotion of mini LED are more identifiable in five years. We predict that Apple is currently developing six mini-LED-support products (vs. the previous report of only two products), including a 12.9-inch iPad Pro, a 27-inch iMac Pro in 4Q20, a 14.1-inch MacBook Pro (upgraded from 13.3-inch), a 16-inch MacBook Pro, a 10.2-inch iPad, and a 7.9-inch iPad mini in 2020.
 
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Looking more and more likely that I will be holding onto my current 11". I hate that they do this. If they are both called "Pro", then they should have the same specs (other than size and resolution, obviously). They should call the 12.9" Pro the "Pro+" or "Pro Max" if they are going to continue to have features on one and not the other. I understand some of the time it's due to engineering difficulties because of the smaller form factor, but they have some of the most brilliant engineers. I think the only excuse they have right now is that it would add a little weight and bulk to the 11". I would hardly imagine it would be that noticeably different. Same thing goes for the phones. So annoying that the larger ones get the feature first and then are pushed "down" to the smaller ones. At least with the phones there is actually a difference in name Pro vs Pro Max.
 
What's so appealing about the 11-inch iPad Pro? Why not just get the 12.9-inch iPad Pro? The difference is just two inches, it's not like it's dramatically larger. And if you want all the power of the Pro version of the iPad, wouldn't you prefer a larger screen anyway?

Or put it differently, if you want a smaller iPad, why does it have to be the Pro version?

Genuinely asking, because I don't fully understand the point of the smaller iPad Pro within the iPad product line.
Yes, the 12.9" is dramatically larger for a hand-held device. I would not get a 12.9 iPad. too big to be useful. It adds noticeable weight and bulk and I don't want the larger screen.
 
What's so appealing about the 11-inch iPad Pro? Why not just get the 12.9-inch iPad Pro? The difference is just two inches, it's not like it's dramatically larger. And if you want all the power of the Pro version of the iPad, wouldn't you prefer a larger screen anyway?

Or put it differently, if you want a smaller iPad, why does it have to be the Pro version?

Genuinely asking, because I don't fully understand the point of the smaller iPad Pro within the iPad product line.
To your last point there, Apple has said that no one is asking for mini-LED on the 11" (which I call BS), and that people get the 11" for it's portability. Apparently, they think people don't care about the features and just want the smaller and lighter one (again, BS). Adding the mini-LED would apparently make it a brick. I doubt the added weight and dimensions would be that noticeable, especially if we got better screen quality. If people didn't care about the features and only the portability, why would so many be purchasing an 11" iPad Pro when there are more portable options? It's because they do care about the features! Conversely, most people that go with the larger one go with it because it is the larger one. I've come to find through my work and my clients that visual acuity definitely takes a dip at a certain point sooner than we think and all they care about is bigger and bolder.

To your main point, not all of us like the largest option. It might not be such a big difference for you, but it is for a lot of us. I'm an average sized guy at 5'9" with average sized hands, but I prefer my devices to be smaller. I have a regular 12 Pro, 13" MacBook Pro, 11" iPad Pro (previously 7.9" minis up until they stopped updating them before the 11" Pro was even a concept), and a 40mm Apple Watch (previously 38mm AW0-3). My desktop monitors are even smaller than average. Just because I like smaller devices, doesn't mean I don't want the premium features. I wasn't even really happy when they first increased the sizes of the phones after the X, but I still got an 11 Pro and 12 Pro. Still a little awkward at times to use, but it's the smallest size I can get with the premium features. My iPad Pro is from 2018 and I won't upgrade it again this year if they have a difference in feature sets between the 11" and 12.9". If they do, they might as well change the name of the 12.9" to Pro Max like the phones. The phones also bother me in that regard, but at least there's a name difference. It might not make sense to you, but we all have our personal preferences.
 
I honestly don’t understand this logic.

You basically get an entire screen of blooming with LCD.
Seriously. Even if there is slight blooming, I would take that over the gray LCD any day. It's always so painfully noticeable when my phone is anywhere close to my iPad.
 
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Anyone know if this display supports two inputs or is it a singular up thunderbolt?

I would expect whether it branded as an Apple or LG display, it will only support a single TB4 input.

If I recall correctly Young's report on the LG displays didn't include resolution just screen size.

The report was from dylandkt before he closed down his Twitter account and he did say they were based on the 24" iMac display, the 27" iMac display and the 32" Pro Display XDR. So it stands to reason they were the same 4.5K, 5K and 6K resolution, respectively. He also mentioned the 27" and 32" were MiniLED and ProMotion.

 
Bummer. I guess I will not be updating my 3 year old 11" iPad Pro this year. I need the M1 and new display to see enough difference.

Maybe time to move to the Air? But there is the low storage (64 vs 128 GB) in the starting Air.
 
Just wish LG had a lot more quality in their construction. Hard to focus on the image quality when your monitor dances on it's stand like a dashboard hula girl. :p
I bought 3rd party stands for both my LG UltraFines. You can do that kind of thing, when a display comes with VESA built in to it, like every display on the market should.
 
The Air jumps from 64GB to 256GB and that jump is $749. As someone who needs 128 but not 256GB the $50 extra for the 11" Pro is worth it to have 120hz, quad speakers and a better camera with flash.
This was exactly the way I thought about it as well. I think there are a lot of people who think about the same exact situation.
 
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What's so appealing about the 11-inch iPad Pro? Why not just get the 12.9-inch iPad Pro? The difference is just two inches, it's not like it's dramatically larger. And if you want all the power of the Pro version of the iPad, wouldn't you prefer a larger screen anyway?

Or put it differently, if you want a smaller iPad, why does it have to be the Pro version?

Genuinely asking, because I don't fully understand the point of the smaller iPad Pro within the iPad product line.
Well having compared both, 12.9’ is just too big for my taste, and it’s difficult for transporting in the context of my job. The 11’ is just a great balance of power, portability and features. Future proofed with the best chip. MiniLED would be great for content consumption at home, and my devices would all have ProMotion and HDR displays
 
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i think he meant a replace for the current 6k XDR display, not for the just announced studio display

But nobody said that it's going to be a replacement for that either. And why would it be? The Pro Display XDR is 32 inches, so it's in a different size category, and there is plenty of room in terms of price between the Studio Display and the Pro Display XDR.

Any theories of an alleged Studio Display Pro replacing any existing displays are just MacRumors users making stuff up. No leaker has suggested any such thing, so I don't get why people are assuming this.
 
If Apple sticks to it's schedule, the Mac Pro will be updated at WWDC or in the fall/winter this year, 2022. There is a 99% chance they also update the Pro Display XDR at the same time. The question really comes down to specs. 7K at same 32" size, with more backlit zones, but still 60Hz? 5K at 27" 120Hz? Something else? The former sounds more likely if they're unwilling to use DSC to get more than 60Hz out of the 40Gb/s pipe.
 
dropping the 11in in favor of the pro line only being 12.9in+ is a terrible idea. The large iPad Pro has never appealed to me due to its size. It’s quite unwieldy.
They should keep the 11in. Just because you want Pro features does not mean you want a gigantic tablet
It’s not overly huge. I had the 9.7- and 11-inch iPads, and I now have a 12.9-inch. It doesn’t feel too big, although I preferred the aspect ration of the 11-inch.
 
Not update but add a higher-end display. I’m curious how much a Mini LED display would cost.
In the article they write about "a mini-LED version of the Studio Display". Even if it's being positioned alongside the current version, I still would've never expected them to introduce one that soon after the original version's release.
 
If Apple does not have the supply of the raw materials it needs it may be quite some time before they introduce anything completely new. They might just tweak the current things they have and call it something new. Thats if supply lines get seriously compromised with how the world is going. They could also lean heavy on paid software and services if making hardware gets harder. This wouldn't be a permanent thing, but they better think of a few plan B's in case things get dicy for a season or two.
 
Interesting - so Kuo and Young, two highly reputable and accurate analysts, are in complete and direct opposition to one another. It’ll be interesting to see who’s right. Kuo’s claims make more sense, but Young is almost never wrong and seems very sure that he’s confirmed there’s a 27” 5K mini-LED panel in production for Apple. Hmmmmmm…
 
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