So glad I got my 64GB M1 Max in May. There was always that nagging fear a M2 Max would show up at WWDC. I knew it wouldnt happen due to supply chain. So news of a 2023 refresh puts me at ease. Hopefully I make so pro money on this one to justify the upgrade then when it has HDMI 2.1 Or even better, wait another year for a real M3 upgrade.
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Kuo: New 15-Inch MacBook With M2 and M2 Pro Chip Options Planned for 2023
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I second that - seems to me that there'd be more of a market for a 17" MBP than squeezing in another laptop between 14" and 16" models. As a developer who likes to do his work on a couch rather than at a desk with external monitors, my aging eyes could sure use that extra 1".
The lineup makes more sense with M2-based 13" & 15" MacBook Air machines and 14" & 16" MacBook Pro machines with M2pro/M2max, eventually dropping the 13" MacBook Pro with the Touch Bar. There have been a lot of people saying they only need the processing/graphics power of an M1 Air but would like a bigger screen, and the 15" Air would satisfy those folks. I really like my 16" MacBook Pro that replaced my 2017 27" iMac and my old MacBook Pro, its an amazingly powerful machine, but there are still times I'd prefer to have the option of taking with me the smaller/lighter footprint of the 13" M2 Air.
All these different power adapters for each laptop model must be maddening for companies that have a lot of Mac laptops and want to keep spare adapters in stock - especially those that have to deal with end users who demand the exact same adapter that came with their laptop because they insist that using a higher power adapter will overcharge and burn out their laptop. it’s like they think that using a power adapter is the same as connecting a building’s electrical wiring directly to the battery and force feeding it.
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I hear you.Can we just stop this "MacBook" thing. All one needs to do is look at the current/new MacBook Air to know that there is no other product, with no other design, that's needed at this end of the line up.
For price point, the M1 MacBook Air exists. One day this new MacBook Air will slide into that price point most likely.
I’d drop the “Air” moniker across both the MacBook and iPad lines. Not unlike iBook, where the “i” was intended to represent a marketing aspect that is no longer relevant, “Air” has hit similar irrelevance. I was hoping with the MBA redesign that they would drop the “Air.”
I’d like to see them go with MacBook & MacBook Pro as well as iPad & iPad Pro. Each could have different sizes and features. But this would be a much more intuitive naming convention for consumers.
Sounds good to me. I stand by the concept of removing “Air” from their naming convention across both the MacBook and iPad lines. That term has now achievers irrelevance.
Agreed. Also, the thinness and lightness that was embodied by the Air back then is embodied by all Macs at this point. Heck, I believe all MacBooks sold right now are thinner than the thickest part of the original Air.
That's not what they're doing anymore. They are building chips for products. Not making a product around whatever chip is available, and bumping it as some new sku hits the shelf.
Exactly! And while they're at it, the can also make the iPad 10th gen the iPad SE...
We don't have enough data yet to know yet whether they will do minor refreshes or not.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "They are building chips for products. Not making a product around whatever chip is available", since the latter is exactly what they did with the 13" M2 MacBook Pro. They had a new chip available for an existing product, and put it in there. They didn't build the M2 specifically for the 13" M2 MacBook Pro.
I think what will determine whether we see an M2 Pro/Max is whether or not they've scheduled the release of the M3 Pro/Max for early or late in 2023. If early, we won't see it; if late, we might.
That would be a reasonable naming hierarchy.
I guess marketing probably believe that MBA is a key selling name for their most popular laptop, compared with plain MacBook.
This is an historical thing from back in the day when sales of an older, low res MBA with a range of ports thrashed with prejudice sales of a MacBook with a Retina display but butterfly keyboard and only one port.
Maybe just ‘Macbook’. It would make sense, since the 14 and 16 inch models are so far upmarket.
I’m hoping he’s right about this. When my 2014 15 inch Pro’s screen started dying last year, my only logical option was the 13 inch Pro. The screen is too small for my aging eyes, and it doesn’t natively support two external monitors. Having something that corrects those issues That wouldn’t have to cost over $3k is attractive.
At least it’s a lot less confusing than how they apply model names and numbers to German cars.
I agree, that makes sense. The M2 is really the M1S. It appears the 3mm M3 in 2023 will have much more distinction in performance gain and thermal improvements.
Just in case you're serious, you have two options to completely hide the notch.
1. Choose the desktop to be a black screen. This gives the entire menu bar a black background, making the notch invisible.
2. Install free 3rd party software to simply give just the menu bar a black background. There are a few options out there.
I did the 1st one, since I much prefer dark mode anyway. What notch? It simply doesn't exist for me. It just adds more vertical screen realestate. Apple could have made the laptop a touch wider in my opinion, as it's already slightly taller than 4K, but around 400 pixels short of the width of 4K.
Yeah sure it can, but considering the M1 MBA already throttles, I can't see it actually providing any gain in performance except for short spurts. From the data I saw, the M1 with 8 GPUs had no real performance gain over 7 GPUs, simply due to throttling.
However, presumably the 15" body improves things slightly, especially if they work further on bigger heat sinks/pipes/air-vents. Or perhaps they will put in small, slow, silent fans. And the M2 supposedly had improved efficiency. So there are things they can do.
All good points. I guess what's POSSIBLE just comes down to the laws of physics.
A 15" MBA w 24GB RAM will most likely be my next up/sideways/down-grade from my 16" M1 Pro MBP.
The M1 Pro is massive overkill, but the bigger screen, and more RAM, is a requirement. So happy they put 24GB RAM in the M2.
The M1 Pro is massive overkill, but the bigger screen, and more RAM, is a requirement. So happy they put 24GB RAM in the M2.
15” would be great, but I would need this version to support more than just one external monitor and also additional scaled resolutions.