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So basically Apple are taking a leaf out of ISP's books. You can only have faster speeds if you pay for it.
 
I mean I expected this

Tim is not a good guy and just hides it well.

3.0 is standard on any Android I’ve ever used the last 5 years, going to 2.0 like on iPad 10 gen is petty and greedy.

This current Apple with its privacy lies, China lapdog, child spying, bad software bugs, cheaping out on features and overpricing in the current climate is disgusting
 
So what. You need differentiation between the tiers of phones. You pay extra for heated seats to be activated in a car even though in many cases the circuitry is already there.

The last time I plugged my phone into my computer with a cable was to Jailbreak it I think.
The prison mentality. “Everyone is ****ing me in the ass, so I guess that’s the way this is going to go from now on.”
 
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USB 2.0? Ridiculous! Bring back Parallel Port speeds! I for one miss the good old times of listening to the grinding/clicking sound of the 1.44MB floppy disk for two minutes as it saved a single 2KB Word file. I want that on my iPhone, please.
 
Thats good but terrible at the same time...

They should support the fastest speeds on the Pro's, but allow at least basic USB 3.0 speeds on the standard models.
Anything other than exactly this would be so Apple though.
 
I honestly can't remember the last time I used the port for anything else but charging, but the fact it's currently still on USB 2.0 speeds is beyond insane.
 
Apple should flick a massive middle finger to the EU and make the port Thunderbolt 3. The EU said that the port has to use a USB-C connection. They did not say what kind of port it has to be. Yes Apple, hold up your middle finger and give it to the EU. Make the product better for all of us in the process.

PS- thanks to Apple Silicon Macs, they do not have to buy the Thunderbolt controller from Intel anymore. Another middle finger to intel!
 
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In the Uk the Pixel 6a is £299 and comes with USB Type-C 3.1 Gen 1

Just think about that for a minute.

Apple are turning into something very ugly.
 
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Apple should flick a massive middle finger to the EU and make the port Thunderbolt 3. The EU said that the port has to use a USB-C connection. They did not say what kind of port it has to be. Yes Apple, hold up your middle finger and give it to the EU. Make the product better for all of us in the process.
How is it in any way a "middle finger to the EU"? Like you say thunderbolt 3 can have a USB-C connector and has USB 3.1 compatibility. So in the end it's stil 100% compliant with what the EU demands of Apple.
 
I’d bet the non-pros get usb 3 w’out thunderbolt and the pros get thunderbolt/usb4 personally, I doubt it’ll be thunderbolt across the line, I do hope they dont decide to be exceptionally petty and stick the non pros with usb 2.0, that would be absurd
I do find it odd that Apple never used USB 3.0 speeds via Lightning, which is what they did with the original 12.9" iPad Pros. But the iPhones only used a 2.0 version.

I would expect the non-Pros won't need 3.0 since there's very little on that type of iPhone that would require that kind of speed. It'd be nice, but I don't expect it.
 
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The prison mentality. “Everyone is ****ing me in the ass, so I guess that’s the way this is going to go from now on.”
Absolutely right.

Just looking at the average MR comments section you see just as many “protesters” as you see fanboys repeatedly doubling down on how fair, good, and necessary all these profit maximizing strategies are, and everyone complaining is just dirt poor or doesn’t need the high-end features.

If you were really a worthy professional you would just earn more to buy more and shut up.

It’s the kind of consumerism where we’re belittling each other like high school girls trying to one up each other on who’s got the best clothes and make-up, not for once questioning how much we’re actually spending or the true worth of the products.

Nothing creates more sales than consumers duking it out over who spend the most on new tech every year while acting like it’s nothing to them.

And Apple is loving every cent of it!
 
It would be so petty from Apple if they limit the USB-C to 2.0 speeds.

Although it’s very unlikely. Definitely will have Thunderbolt 3 and Pros will have Thunderbolt 4/ USB4 like Macs and iPad Pro

The issue is that the current A-series SoCs do not support Thunderbolt or high-speed USB-C data.

The iPad Pro can support Thunderbolt and USB4 because it has an M1 SoC, which has the necessary hardware. But other iPads using A-series chips are limited to USB 2.0 speeds, even though they have USB-C ports.

Presumably, the iPhone 15 Pro will get a new chip (A17 ?) that has new I/O capabilities to support the USB-C port. But the standard iPhone 15 will be using something the same or similar to this years A16 Bionic, which simply doesn't support anything beyond USB 2.0 speeds.
 
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The issue is that the current A-series SoCs do not support Thunderbolt or high-speed USB-C data.

The iPad Pro can support Thunderbolt and USB4 because it has an M1 SoC, which has the necessary hardware. But other iPads using A-series chips are limited to USB 2.0 speeds, even though they have USB-C ports.

Presumably, the iPhone 15 Pro will get a new chip (A17 ?) that has new I/O capabilities to support the USB-C port. But the standard iPhone 15 will be using something the same or similar to this years A16 Bionic, which simply doesn't support anything beyond USB 2.0 speeds.
Now this makes engineering sense. I hadn't thought about the limitation of the USB controller on the A16. Apple probably designed it to only handle 2.0 speeds, so if the non-Pro iPhone 15's get the A16, then it's unlikely it'll support faster than 2.0 speeds.
 
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If this is what Apple is doing it's pretty lame. I can't think of any other device that uses USB-C at USB 2 speeds but Apple may land yet another courageous first.
It’s very common in low end Android phones
You know, the kind of stuff Apple is supposed to put to shame

EDIT: Apparently so does the Flip 4 🤦‍♂️
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Hardly surprising. Apple has shown over the past few years that they’re no longer a consumer-focused company. These days they exist solely to extract money from your wallet. They did that before of course, but they did it by offering some of the most advanced and compelling tech products you could buy. These days it’s penny-pinching, nickel and diming, and ads as far as the eye can see. The tech industry needs an innovative and scrappy competitor to take over where Apple and Google left off, but I don’t have high hopes for that. Big tech simply buys up whatever up and coming tech company may be a threat.
 
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Remember when competition landscape was completely different back then?
So competition forces them to gimp their own product?
No, they used to say, ”We aren’t playing in that space. It’s a race to th bottom.” Now they dabble in it regularly.
 
Never understood all the fuss behind lightening. The only upside for moving to USB-C is having one less cable to carry, and that is mostly neutralized by MagSafe. Airdrop is more than sufficient for almost all the needs.
 
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