Kuo: Two New AirPods Models Likely in Late 2019 to Early 2020, Including One With 'All-New Design'

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    Apple will likely launch two new AirPods models as early as the fourth quarter of 2019, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

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    In his latest research note, obtained by MacRumors, Kuo forecasts that two new AirPods models will likely go into mass production between the fourth quarter of 2019 and the first quarter of 2020, with Luxshare, Goertek, and Amkor expected to be Apple's primary suppliers of the new earphones.

    Kuo believes one of the new AirPods models will feature an "all-new form factor design" and a "higher price" than the second-generation AirPods, which cost $159 with a standard charging case and $199 with a wireless charging case. The other model is expected to be a more iterative update with the same pricing.

    Both new AirPods models are said to adopt a new system-in-package design internally, which can improve assembly yield rates, save space internally, and reduce costs, but Kuo does not elaborate on outward-facing design changes.

    The lead excerpt from Kuo's research note:
    Kuo is "positive on the demand for AirPods" and Apple's wireless headphones market share, as he believes the "all-new design" of one of the new models "could boost the replacement demand and attract new users." He estimates AirPods shipments will reach 52 million units in 2019 and 75-85 million units in 2020.

    Last month, Apple launched second-generation AirPods powered by an Apple-designed H1 chip, enabling hands-free "Hey Siri" functionality and up to 50 percent more talk time compared to the original AirPods. The second-generation AirPods feature the same outward design as the original.

    Bloomberg's Mark Gurman was first to reveal Apple's roadmap for AirPods, including the second-generation pair with "Hey Siri" support, while DigiTimes also expects third-generation AirPods to launch by the end of the year.

    Article Link: Kuo: Two New AirPods Models Likely in Late 2019 to Early 2020, Including One With 'All-New Design'
     
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    Fantastic. Their best accompaniment to the iPhone gets significantly better. Looks like I’ll be upgrading next year.

    But I have no idea what SMT+RFPCB & SiP are.
     
  5. H.E. Pennypacker macrumors 6502

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    How about creating an air pod that fits people’s ears? That would be a step in the right direction.
     
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    Corrected to read..."Announced Q4 2019, potential for release sometime before Q2 2022, Maybe...
     
  7. Whoakapi macrumors 6502

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    Welcome to 2020. The year when your wireless earphones will be as expensive as the paired device itself.
     
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    They fit my ears perfectly
     
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    Gone are the days when maturing technology meant lower prices.
     
  10. PickUrPoison, Apr 24, 2019
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    Surface mount technology/Rigid Flexible Printed Circuit Board currently, moving to System in Package. They’re currently using a small printed circuit board with various components soldered to it; because of space constraints part of the board is flexible. They use this in the iPhone as well.

    The new design is integrated into one package, it’s more dense and there are ways to mount some components vertically, attached by thin wires instead of being soldered to a flat surface. It’s not fabricated as a single chip like the A-series SoC in iPhones; there are still various discrete analog and digital components including passive devices, but they’re mounted on a single substrate and it’s all housed in the same package so it looks similar. The Apple Watch has used a SiP since its introduction four years ago.
     
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    Maybe get Powerbeats?
     
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    New design based on Apple's In-Ear Headphones would make sense for a noise cancellation version. That would not be a bad thing at all.
     
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    Did you remember to sell your old pair?
     
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    Glad I opted NOT to replace my launch pair with AirPods 1.5!
     
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    They fit >85% of the population’s ears fine.

    With the outer-design, it was always going to be difficult to have it fit 100% of people’s ears.

    Yeah, the only issue could be comfort after wearing them for a while - the current design are great in that they don’t place any pressure on the inside of your ear, so they can be worn just about all day.
     
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    So it took 2.5 years to update them the first time, and now <1 year before they are updated again? As if we needed another reason to believe that these 2nd gen AirPods were 100% supposed to release with the XS last fall. Seems like they just waited 6 months for AirPower.
     
  18. joueboy macrumors 68000

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    As of now we already expect every feature added is a price increase. I can safely assume that the next AirPods is more expensive.
     
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    If only everyone in the world had your same exact ears :rolleyes:
     
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    "As early as Q4 2019..." Meaning next year.
     
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    Thanks.

    What do we think that’ll bring, design/functionality wise?
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    I think v2 were planned to be released with AirPower, but since the latter was cancelled, Apple still went through with v2, despite it not making a whole lot of sense, especially if v3 are coming later this year.
     
  22. Lucamegh macrumors member

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    This strategy of releasing dozens of more expensive variants of a product after it becomes successful is plain annoying. It just shows how poor sighted they’ve become. Their product lineup is such a mess.
     
  23. Pupi macrumors 6502

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    Late 2019 followed by early 2020? This doesn’t sound right.
     
  24. irebry macrumors newbie

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    whew....it's a good thing we all have the same shaped ears as you then!!! :)
     
  25. PickUrPoison, Apr 24, 2019
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    Several things, it’s basically going to take the current 2D assembly and turn it into a more dense, 3D structure that will bring all the components into one package. It’s not fabricated as a semiconductor wafer like a system on a chip; there are still discrete parts but they’ll be connected by fine wires instead of the traces of a printed circuit board.

    They’ll be able to pack more components into a customized shape. Functionality wise it’ll have whatever Apple decides to add but they’ll be able to design more-complex circuits and still fit it in the same physical space. Apparently there’s a manufacturing yield problem which has constrained supply, and this is part of their solution, integrating all the components that used to be on a small, many-layered printed circuit board in a two-dimension layout into a single, denser, module. Parts all mounted on the same substrate, connected by fine, bonded wires. It might give them room for a larger battery.
     

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