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As a connector, lightning is still superior. Not only it has smaller footprint than USB-C, there's no extra pieces inside the port on the device. Purely male to female connection.

I also like the appearance and stability of the Lightning connector way more than USB-C.

Have either of you experienced failure of lightning jacks, as described in this recent post of mine:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...es-4-models-more.2136191/page-6#post-26432371

Of all the different USB & Apple-proprietary jacks I've worked with, the Lightning jack seems to wear away the fastest, which is quite annoying after a while. Or maybe I just subject my iPads & iPhones to more dirt/lint than anyone else.
 
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On the LCD model, the article says *production* is delayed to the end of September to early October. Are you sure that isn't *availablility*? If production doesn't even start until October 1st, it's not going to available for purchase until November, and that's quite a delay.
 
Have either of you experienced failure of lightning jacks, as described in this recent post of mine:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...es-4-models-more.2136191/page-6#post-26432371

Of all the different USB & Apple-proprietary jacks I've worked with, the Lightning jack seems to wear away the fastest, which is quite annoying after a while. Or maybe subject my iPads & iPhones to more dirt/lint than anyone else.

I'm just one data point, but I have never experienced any wearing away of the Lightning jack - I usually keep my iPhones for 2-3 years. And my USB-C port on my MacBook is already getting loose after two months! Plus I have read here on Macrumors anecdotes regarding others having to have their USB-C port replaced after it gets too loose and is no longer able to keep a connection or charge their MacBook.
 
EKG makes sense if they’ve developed algorithms that need something better than the occasional blood pulse measurements to reach a useful conclusion. Otherwise it’s just a waste of space and battery life. I wonder if they can measure blood pressure with the Watch, that might be the holy grail of early prevention and detection of cardiovascular disease.
 
I'm just one data point, but I have never experienced any wearing away of the Lightning jack - I usually keep my iPhones for 2-3 years. And my USB-C port on my MacBook is already getting loose after two months! Plus I have read here on Macrumors anecdotes regarding others having to have their USB-C port replaced after it gets too loose and is no longer able to keep a connection or charge their MacBook.

Good feedback, thanks!

Of all the connectors, I've had the worst luck with micro-usb that's typical to Android and most Bluetooth speakers I've owned. Too small, too easy to bend and start to loosen both the male jack and the female receiver. I sure kind of miss the original iPhone/iPad large jack - was robust and strong and I never had issues with it! Sometimes having the smallest/thinnest is not an advantage!
 
If this comes to be, hopefully the USB-C connectors are more durable than lightning. Am I the only one for whom lightning connectors wear away, where black stripes appear at the copper contacts, either from dirt in the iPhone/iPad jack and/or from general wear & tear, rendering lightning cables to be unusable after just 4-5 months of regular use?

But they're not though. I've never once squashed a Lightning connector. I've squashed USB-C connectors a few times.
 
Have either of you experienced failure of lightning jacks, as described in this recent post of mine:
My iPhone 5 and its original lightning cable still work fine. And the lightning port got heavy use when it was my primary driver, since I plugged it in and out everyday in my car.

Personally, I prefer purely male to female jacks (eg. 3.5mm audio jack, lightning) than the ones with things sticking out inside the ports (eg. microUSB, USB-C, and the one of the worst is probably Firewire 800).
 
Good feedback, thanks!

Of all the connectors, I've had the worst luck with micro-usb that's typical to Android and most Bluetooth speakers I've owned. Too small, too easy to bend and start to loosen both the male jack and the female receiver. I sure kind of miss the original iPhone/iPad large jack - was robust and strong and I never had issues with it! Sometimes having the smallest/thinnest is not an advantage!

I've had the worst luck with mini-usb, as I have an extensive collection of mechanical keyboards and those are the most common connectors for the keyboards with detachable cables. They get loose very quickly. I'd happily take USB-C format over any other USB connector, it's the best so far in my opinion (even if my one-port MacBook is making me anxious about my USB-C port).
 
The ceramic back on the apple watch is the best solution.As the aluminum corrodes and that is unacceptable.
Hope that is true.Because i was not gonna give 800€ for a watch and just to keep it 4 years maximum.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the article is wrong. They are only talking about the black part that houses the sensors being ceramic, not the watch body itself. So you will be stuck again with the aluminum or steel unless you opt to buy the Edition model.
 
I really hope the USB-C rumor is true. Apple seriously needs to ditch Lightning and replace it with USB-C across ALL iOS devices.
 
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Now I think going with the "iPhone X" naming convention was a BIG mistake. Sure hope Apple has the wisdom to keep the names simple, not adding on all of these annoying suffixes.

"iPhone X mini" is fine as a name, but but definitely not "iPhone XS Max". Lord help us!
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I really hope the USB-C rumor is true. Apple seriously needs to ditch Lightning and replace it with USB-C across ALL iOS devices.

Why? Seriously, why "seriously"? What limitations is Lightning bringing? Say they do switch. Plug in a USB-C cable and, lo and behold, you wont' notice a difference. Nothing, nata. It's a cable and connector. Does the same thing.

Now, there are cases where USB-C might offer an advantage, but not purely as an "industry standard". The Lightning connector is pretty standard right now. Widely available.
 
Agreed here. More likely that the new iPad Pros will have USB-C charging bundled in the box, not that the lightning port on the iPad itself is changing to USB-C.
I would agree, except that the slide specifically says "USB I/O".
 

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If all of these products are announced at Wednesdays event they will have lot to get through, my guess is they will "dispense with usual updates except to say everting is fine" as Tim Cook usually says when events are busy.
 
Not a chance in hell Apple replaces Lightning on the iPad. It doesn't make sense: if I were traveling with all updated Apple products I would need a Lightning cable for my iPhone and a USB-C cable for my iPad. Why?!
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Don't forget all the Apple accessories have Lightning ports: Magic Mouse/Keyboard, AirPods, Beats, etc. It makes no sense to switch the iPad to USB-C.


You are already traveling with a USB C adaptor for a MacBook and lightning for iPhone/iPad. Also the MacBook doesn’t have any lightning ports. So a full USB C switch makes the most sense
 
If this comes to be, hopefully the USB-C connectors are more durable than lightning. Am I the only one for whom lightning connectors wear away, where black stripes appear at the copper contacts, either from dirt in the iPhone/iPad jack and/or from general wear & tear, rendering lightning cables to be unusable after just 4-5 months of regular use?

You definitely need to evaluate your environment. 4-5 months is not very long. We've had several daily-use devices and never experience this problem over years. Do you work in an dirty environment? Near the ocean? On a boat? I'd suggest using a toothpick to keep the Lightning ports clean on a weekly basis.
 



Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has issued ...

Is there anything else in the world so exaggeratedly rumored like the iNews? Neither cars, bikes, watches or even the next H&M collection could trigger such an avalanche of wi(l)dest guess what's next to come ...
I consider that highly childish, or more probable, sorta degeneration we're running onto. *_*
 
The iPad is the only iOS device that USB-C kinda makes sense in, but I seriously doubt it. If anything they might add it as a secondary port if they are trying to position the iPad Pro as more of a MacBook replacement, but Apple would be wise to wait for USB-C Micro or something in the coming years. Or better, offer up the Lightning connector to the industry as the standard for USB-C Micro going forward, since it’s already a lot thinner and a bit narrower than USB-C.
 
Well, you're counting things twice there since USB cables (before type C) distinguish between host & peripheral, hence A and B connectors. Plus, the USB 1/2-era cables are all backward-compatible with super-speed sockets. The Micro USB connectors are over 10 years old and Type C is already about 3... I'm not a huge fan of USB-C (I agree that they've fouled up over having too many cable types) but I think the connector is going to be around for ages (next step for mobiles will be all-wireless).

You're right about the host/peripheral distinction, but does it matter? A smartphone can be either. I also left off the Micro-AB, which was used on a few phones way back when.

I also didn't count all the oddball semi-proprietary variants of Micro USB that have existed in that rich 10-year history. I remember Motorola and Nokia and others making connectors that looked a lot like Micro USB, but just different enough not to be compatible.

My point is more general anyway - I don't think it's a good idea for Apple to tie themselves to a standard that has a history of being an imperfect and inconsistent one-size-fits-all.

Apple might have had its hands sort of tied with Intel and USB-C on laptops, but they have no reason to do it with iPhone and iPad.
 
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