One simple thing Apple could do that would give them an instant and huge edge over Googhke Maps is to allow their base map and POI data to be completely downloadable as an option, so that a data connection is not necessary for most navigation - like TomTom or CoPilot have always done. North America i complete data set in CoPilot is only about 1.2 Gigs.
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Lack of Maps Updates in iOS 8 Said to Be Caused by 'Internal Politics', Developers Leaving
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I think peoples expectations are way too high for Apple when options from competitors are not much better.
Google does intelligent recognition with all their street view data, recognizing numbers on mailboxes and buildings and adds that to their address data. Freaking amazing stuff.
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Agree. Still no night mode in Google Maps for iOS. They're doing it on purpose.
Where are you getting 50,000 from? According to Apple's 10K they have 37,500 non retail employees. That's less than Google.
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/3...-numbers-on-employees-retail-stores-and-more/
Apple maps is still woefully inadequate. Living in New York City it would be pretty obvious that if you say, searched for something on 35th Street in Manhattan while standing on, say, 7th St in Manhattan you'd get a Manhattan address. More times than not the map flies to some address in the middle of nowhere. Somewhere in Pennsylvania. Sometimes even out of the country.
Touching hyperlinks for an address in programs like Yelp will sometimes take you out of the state and beyond. Again to other countries. It's really, really sloppy.
Also...Why no subway colored lines on maps? Is that so hard? It's not like they build a new subway line every week. Or decade, for that matter.
And lastly when you're riding a train it's nice to see where the tracks go on the map so you can track your progress. Which works if you're completely zoomed in on your location. If you start to pull back for a wider look at the map the train tracks disappear. It's madness. Google maps doesn't behave this way.
Lots of issues. Kind of a pain in the butt. Step it up Apple, it's high time.
Touching hyperlinks for an address in programs like Yelp will sometimes take you out of the state and beyond. Again to other countries. It's really, really sloppy.
Also...Why no subway colored lines on maps? Is that so hard? It's not like they build a new subway line every week. Or decade, for that matter.
And lastly when you're riding a train it's nice to see where the tracks go on the map so you can track your progress. Which works if you're completely zoomed in on your location. If you start to pull back for a wider look at the map the train tracks disappear. It's madness. Google maps doesn't behave this way.
Lots of issues. Kind of a pain in the butt. Step it up Apple, it's high time.
I like how peoe like I talk badly about Maps lol. For me though I really haven't had that many problems, no more then I ever did with google maps. And yes I have gotten wrong info from google maps. While I think Maps could be better I don't think it's as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
Maps is one thing that is very important and Apple cannot replace instantly. It takes a lot of time to update and build a maps database and lots of effort and resources.
Nokia and Google have been doing it for years!
Apple made a mistake thinking they could easily and quickly mitigate that problem. If they were smart, they'd have switched to OSM (OpenStreetMaps), open crowd sourced maps. They'd have gotten good map source and helped the open source movement too.
Nokia and Google have been doing it for years!
Apple made a mistake thinking they could easily and quickly mitigate that problem. If they were smart, they'd have switched to OSM (OpenStreetMaps), open crowd sourced maps. They'd have gotten good map source and helped the open source movement too.
I guess it goes to show that while you can buy a company, that doesn't mean you get to keep the employees that made that company great. Apple has had a history of moving people around CONSTANTLY because they apparently DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES TO DO ALL THE JOBS THAT NEED DONE.
Apple needs to hire Hire HIRE. People need jobs and Apple needs to keep their projects moving all at once instead of this piece-meal iPhone to iPad to Mac to Mac Pro to Pro software that's falling behind, back to iOS, etc. I said years ago this was a real problem. Leopard was the first Mac OS version to get massively delayed by the iPhone and it's been a bit of a snafu ever since. The Mac Pro should NEVER have had to wait that long for a major update, etc. Apple needs to get its arse in gear.
Apple needs to hire Hire HIRE. People need jobs and Apple needs to keep their projects moving all at once instead of this piece-meal iPhone to iPad to Mac to Mac Pro to Pro software that's falling behind, back to iOS, etc. I said years ago this was a real problem. Leopard was the first Mac OS version to get massively delayed by the iPhone and it's been a bit of a snafu ever since. The Mac Pro should NEVER have had to wait that long for a major update, etc. Apple needs to get its arse in gear.
By all accounts, Cook hit it out of the park for developers at this WWDC. The only thing they were missing that was rumoured was Maps announcements, but everything else was excellent. If they can keep this up and get the same reception for the iPhone/iPad/iWatch announcement later this year, you won't have anything to worry about.
My sources tell me TechCrunch sources are bogus.
And look at all these posts and engagement over pure speculation or even FUD.
Come on people !
Map Data is not bad in my location the map data surpasses that of google, simple map and routing Apple is already better than Google but they should have stayed with osm data which is in Switzerland most of the Times more recent than the government data, and the quality on par with it since they got confirmation they can use the orthophotos for maping, the same as the gov one use for theirs.
The one problem lies in business location data which google gets almost free since almoste every business includes it on the homepage, and if they are not stupide. They have found a way to extract it out of website data, with their web crawler.
The second problem ist the way it searches for the locations, globally instead of the nearest location, which is probably mostentimes the best choise.
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Just after they get knotn that Apple is shiping an own map service not based on google map. Here google is worse than an local phonebook + pasting the data into an OSM or the iOS built in map. Google maps is just usefull for street view which is not really aviable in swiitzerland.
Thats classic Apple, spreading themselves thin, trying to get their engineers to cover too much, no wonder their app quality has dropped and development is so far behind. They need to invest some of that money stashed away in more staff!
It seems to be all about the money now and Apple product second..
It seems to be all about the money now and Apple product second..
Its not like that. In iOS8, search provider has been defaulted as Bing. Does it means search is screwed? No! Users can anytime switch back to Google search.
Same way, People who feel lack of functionality with Apple Maps are free to download Google Maps and use it as they were using it before with previous versions of iOS. Apple is no more interested in promoting Google.
I'll believe their improvements when I see it. They are non-existent here. They have said they are always improving their maps, but they haven't done anything here yet. Open up your maps app and check it out.
Huh? Lag? What phone do you have? Actually with the 5S Apple maps is faster and integrates better with the OS than Google Maps. I really have no idea what you guys are talking about. The only lacking feauture if Apple maps is the traffic data. Other than that it works smoother than Google for me by a long shot.
I still don't get it. If Apple did not want to promote Google, fine, they should have an alternative that works just as well, if not better. If they have an alternative that's not good enough many ways, why would they just sit on it and not rapidly improve?
And more than anything, asking users who are unhappy with the product to go to Google, is in itself a massive endorsement of Google's product - negating the whole point of the project...
Yes, but most panics are caused by people who aren't thinking calmly and rationally. Doesn't mean everyone else won't get caught up in it.
chocolaterabbit, thanks for the reassuring post. I love the Mac. Always have. Our first computer was a Mac. Neither of us had a clue about computers then. We were drawn to the Mac and very pleased.
I hope to be using a Mac as my main computer all the time.
Thanks again!
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, so what are THEY gonna do about it ?