I want one. Except I want a bigger screen. And a real keyboard, with a trackpad. And it needs to run full OS X. Oops, I already have one of those.
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'Large Screen iPod Touch Device' in Fall of 2009?
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I want one. Except I want a bigger screen. And a real keyboard, with a trackpad. And it needs to run full OS X. Oops, I already have one of those.
Gag. Ever actually use a touch screen computer? It's HORRIBLY uncomfortable after about 10 minutes.
Or people with, I don't know, BAGS?
I predict a 7" 800x600 iPod touch like device with ~2x the CPU/GPU/RAM, runs OS X Mobile, but supports more features like multiple windows/applications at once. Ships with portable version of iLife and iWork, plus more featured versions of Mail and mobile Safari.
Support current app store apps either scaled to full screen or in a windowed mode. New apps just for the "tablet" will start appearing in a couple months. 16gb and 32gb solid state versions at $399 and $499, with a netbook sized dock with keyboard USB ports, etc available separately for another $199 or so.
Here's my logic: Apple/Jobs is a control freak. They are successful because they make great software because it integrates perfectly with the hardware because they control the whole platform. They make a premium with that model.
If they controlled the hardware, the OS, AND the software distribution channel for a new COMPUTER, not just a phone, platform they would likely be very happy - not only for the control but the revenue sharing.
Also, this would be a fantastic product to sell along side an iPhone nano that DOESN'T support the app store. Buy a $99-199 phone (not smartphone) and maybe pickup a $600-700 subnote/netbook that integrate together well. Maybe some special offer for tethering the "netbook" to the nano, where you get the phone free with 2-year data plan and tablet/netbook dock all at once.
Yeah, I know, but . . .
. . . that's fangirl to you, funkyc!
that just means ur a fanboy haha
don't worry i was thinking the same thing lol
this is what went through my mind: 'hmmm tablet huh? that's kinda useless....i'd so much prefer a netbook with a keyboard and a touchscreen, now that i would actually use....but hey i'd probably buy one anyway...just coz it'd be cool
. . . that's fangirl to you, funkyc!
would be great if it was true. what i want is something like this that runs proper osx and iphoto to take on the road whilst bicycling for photographs. a large hd would be handy and a decent processor in the 600mhz range.
currently my mbp is underclocked to 600 and runs iphoto well enough for basic delete and small effect functions. would love to have this
currently my mbp is underclocked to 600 and runs iphoto well enough for basic delete and small effect functions. would love to have this
That's great! It's about time too, especially since it's been over a year since the original AppleInsider mini-tablet rumor. It looks like this will be Apple's response to netbooks. I'd say the price would be $200 or so more than an equivalent capacity iPod touch, given additional software, display size (5.5" and 8"?) and other stuff. Fall 2009's not too bad, not as long as we have this new rumor.
Speaking of iPod touch…maybe this device will be released at the annual iPod event in 2009?
And I want iLife mobile, iWork mobile, keyboard support, camera, and a mini-DisplayPort…
Hopefully it'll have split screen (full, half, quarter) or windowing options as well as full-screen (works like apps in Mac OS X). Tabs would be great too. Maybe WWDC 2009 will talk about resolution-independence and scaling apps up for a bigger display.
Price, thinness (matters a lot to Apple
) and that the iPhone OS is designed for these devices while Mac OS X is (debatedly) not designed for small notebooks. LOL, you figured it out right there!
Would Mac OS X even run on that device? Would iLife/iWork even run on that device? Probably not well…
It shouldn't be "just" a larger iPod touch. There should and probably will be features specific to the mini-tablet that use the larger display. Multi-tasking, iLife, iWork, and more editing capabilities on built-in apps come to mind.
Well both rumors are about a larger-than-iPod touch device. And the AppleInsider 1.5x rumor I believe was 1.5x in each direction, therefore 2.25x total size.
Ever used a graphing calculator?
My ClassPad 330 is ≈3.6" 160x240. And that's one of the better ones… Who says this device won't? Just like how mobile Safari views full-blown web pages, Keynote mobile would view native Keynote files. And Microsoft might make Office mobile.
So true.Or people with, I don't know, BAGS?
There might be a slim chance it will be announced at MWSF, but I doubt it. Fall 2009 is too far from January. More likely (if it's pre-announced) it'll be announced at WWDC so the developers can adapt apps (if needed) to the larger display.
Stylus
True, but after market styli <- just a guess) can be had and there is a decent chance for full apps.
True, but after market styli <- just a guess) can be had and there is a decent chance for full apps.
I don't think it will be any different than the ipod touch model other then in size.
Current touch is 4x4 icons on the display excluding the dock.
The new tablet will be 12x6 icons. They will use the same OS and it will be locked down so that you can only install software through apps store.
You guys give too much credit to apple with those fancy pictures showing mac os desktop and expansion slots.
It will be locked down and tightly controlled with no expansion slots.
They will sell two models. One that's WIFI based and the other that's Mobile Data Broadband based. Of course no cell phone.
Here is what I think it will look like.
It's the next logical course in growing this product line.
Current touch is 4x4 icons on the display excluding the dock.
The new tablet will be 12x6 icons. They will use the same OS and it will be locked down so that you can only install software through apps store.
You guys give too much credit to apple with those fancy pictures showing mac os desktop and expansion slots.
It will be locked down and tightly controlled with no expansion slots.
They will sell two models. One that's WIFI based and the other that's Mobile Data Broadband based. Of course no cell phone.
Here is what I think it will look like.
It's the next logical course in growing this product line.
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I need a convertible, not a tablet standalone.
How can sliding a bit ass tablet into a big ass screen make sense to anyone (if you tell me the tablet is small, then why is a small screen any good?
then couple that with the slide in docking patent that led to people producing this mockup (yes I googled this one)
How can sliding a bit ass tablet into a big ass screen make sense to anyone (if you tell me the tablet is small, then why is a small screen any good?
I don't think it will be any different than the ipod touch model other then in size.
Current touch is 4x4 icons on the display excluding the dock.
The new tablet will be 12x6 icons. They will use the same OS and it will be locked down so that you can only install software through apps store.
You guys give too much credit to apple with those fancy pictures showing mac os desktop and expansion slots.
It will be locked down and tightly controlled with no expansion slots.
They will sell two models. One that's WIFI based and the other that's Mobile Data Broadband based. Of course no cell phone.
Here is what I think it will look like.
It's the next logical course in growing this product line.
The top section will be used for a large long battery.
The bottom section will house the processor+video, memory, io and wifi or data broadband.
Doing this will free it up to be even thinner than the current ipod touch.
I am sympathetic to the person who wants to buy thousands of units with VGA, Firewire, Ethernet and runs "full" Keynote.
Apple may be going the direction of web based Keynote, which would mandate a web access while using it.
If the tablet had target mode via USB, that might solve your Firewire issue. If you have a dongle for the new video connector to VGA, that would solve that. I think Apple will not hear our pleas for ethernet, even a small extendable plug. You may have to have a wifi router with ethernet to go there or talk to your network via either wifi based or 3G based internet connection.
I hope as more devices get 3G there is a trend toward lower cost data plans and as one poster suggested having 2 devices per one user's plan ala a family plan but for a per user basis.
My main criterion is playing HD content at some significant fraction of full resolution. I am a bit agnostic on full OSX vs iPhone OSX but I also believe this is a GUI choice over essentially the same code, so perhaps a "full" GUI mode option for more sophisticated applications.
What you do with it is more important than how the device gets you there. So long as a device lets you play and edit and send a variety of content from word files to powerpoint, to images to movies, etc., the device will provide the needed functionality
Right now as amazing as the iPhone is, and it is revolutionary, some applications need a larger screen space such as sharing image based data in groups and small presentations.
It was kinda cool to see a couple of older relatives with "color TV" as their main media exposure, see and feel an iPhone in their hand playing a TV show. It was an ah-ha moment for them for sure and the look on their face was priceless.
Rocketman
Apple may be going the direction of web based Keynote, which would mandate a web access while using it.
If the tablet had target mode via USB, that might solve your Firewire issue. If you have a dongle for the new video connector to VGA, that would solve that. I think Apple will not hear our pleas for ethernet, even a small extendable plug. You may have to have a wifi router with ethernet to go there or talk to your network via either wifi based or 3G based internet connection.
I hope as more devices get 3G there is a trend toward lower cost data plans and as one poster suggested having 2 devices per one user's plan ala a family plan but for a per user basis.
My main criterion is playing HD content at some significant fraction of full resolution. I am a bit agnostic on full OSX vs iPhone OSX but I also believe this is a GUI choice over essentially the same code, so perhaps a "full" GUI mode option for more sophisticated applications.
What you do with it is more important than how the device gets you there. So long as a device lets you play and edit and send a variety of content from word files to powerpoint, to images to movies, etc., the device will provide the needed functionality
Right now as amazing as the iPhone is, and it is revolutionary, some applications need a larger screen space such as sharing image based data in groups and small presentations.
It was kinda cool to see a couple of older relatives with "color TV" as their main media exposure, see and feel an iPhone in their hand playing a TV show. It was an ah-ha moment for them for sure and the look on their face was priceless.
Rocketman
Who all thinks this will be announced at MW next week? Or do you think they will wait until WWDC or even later?
I'd say MW would be the perfect timing for such an announcement. Schiller has some huge shoes to fill stepping up in place of SJ. If he were to announce such a device I'd say his work is done! In fact he probably wouldn't even have to speak a word!
Show this thing off a bit, maybe hint at a price range and everyones sold!
And they could probably release it somewhat like they did the original iphone. Announce at MW and release maybe shortly after WWDC, using WWDC to showcase several apps running on the new device with developers stepping up and talking about their product yadda yadda yadda.
Do you think this would kill sells of their other devices or laptops? I wouldn't neccesarily think so, since it would be a completely new form factor aimed at a whole new style of computing.
Thoughts?
I'd say MW would be the perfect timing for such an announcement. Schiller has some huge shoes to fill stepping up in place of SJ. If he were to announce such a device I'd say his work is done! In fact he probably wouldn't even have to speak a word!
Show this thing off a bit, maybe hint at a price range and everyones sold!
And they could probably release it somewhat like they did the original iphone. Announce at MW and release maybe shortly after WWDC, using WWDC to showcase several apps running on the new device with developers stepping up and talking about their product yadda yadda yadda.
Do you think this would kill sells of their other devices or laptops? I wouldn't neccesarily think so, since it would be a completely new form factor aimed at a whole new style of computing.
Thoughts?
Do you think this would kill sells of their other devices or laptops? I wouldn't neccesarily think so, since it would be a completely new form factor aimed at a whole new style of computing.
That's why they're not going to let you run any Mac OS software on it. There will be a new set of software written to take advantage of the wider display using the Touch Framework technology. It does not make sense for them to allow Mac OS software to run on this platform competing against MacBook Air.
If they did MacBook Air will be dead within weeks.
Haha, that would totally be true! And leave the Apple rumor sites to fill 20-page threads with praises, complaints, discussions, and more complaints.
Pretty good argument for MWSF (or something pre-WWDC), although January to fall is quite a while. I suppose Apple could do this if they think that this device is a big one.
It's different from the iPod touch because it's larger and more expensive. It's different from the MacBook and MacBook Air because they are much more powerful and larger.
I wouldn't get too excited. Apple is a fairly conservative company when it comes to new products (with exception to the iPhone which needed to be revolutionary to make a dent in the cellphone market). I would expect them to release a 7" iPod Touch model. They may name it something different though (iBook?) It would use the same iPhone/Touch OS but perhaps slightly modified for the larger screen (icons would remain the same size so as not to look like one of those universal remotes for old people).
I could see such a device having a lot of uses. First, developers could write software that would take use of the larger screen especially business apps. Internet browsing, movies, photos and ebooks would be more enjoyable with a larger screen. Typing would be easier as well. Gaming would be more involving.
As long as they price it right: I'm thinking $499 for a 32 gig model it would probably sell decently enough.
I could see such a device having a lot of uses. First, developers could write software that would take use of the larger screen especially business apps. Internet browsing, movies, photos and ebooks would be more enjoyable with a larger screen. Typing would be easier as well. Gaming would be more involving.
As long as they price it right: I'm thinking $499 for a 32 gig model it would probably sell decently enough.
Or better, video out for all applications. Apple is so frustrating with their choices for control lockdowns.
just made this up for funpce
all it looks like is a Modded macbook just the new version since modbook has the old one covered.
Apple doesn't care what you want. They care about what will make money.
Historically, there is serious negative profit in designing slates running full-blown laptop OS's. So they aren't stupid enough to repeat that mistake. Instead they might design, not what you want, but what potential new customers who don't currently have any Apple products want.
Expand the iPod Touch into something slightly larger, but still running iPhone apps. That market is booming, with lots of room for an expanded product line with higher prices. Lots.
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i have a plam tx and ive used a ipod touch and reading this like pdf's is had to do with such small words or constantly scrolling all the time zoomed in.
i hope apple has a larger screen or a web ipod
i hope apple has a larger screen or a web ipod
I can't find a single article online, that supports what you are saying.
Every "production cost vs. retail price"-analysis says that MS are losing serious amounts of $ on each 360 sold.
"It’s a shocking statement for a CEO to say publicly, as Steve has, that the goal of a company isn’t to make money, it’s to make great products"
Jonathan Ive about Steve Jobs, International Herald Tribune, 2006
That just shows that Steve Jobs is such a good salesman he even bamboozled Jony Ives.