Agreed, it's not wider, less than a cm longer, it's thinner, it's lighter, and it has a better screen.
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Larger iPhone 6, 'iPad Pro' and iWatch Could Tap New Display Sizes in Development
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Agreed, it's not wider, less than a cm longer, it's thinner, it's lighter, and it has a better screen.
More rubbish about random resolutions and ridiculous, resource sucking excessive ppi's. don't panic yet. What the hell problem will an "iWatch" solve anyway? Will it be some sort of pay pass device so you don't need to wave a phone around? Will it be a Dick Tracy communicator so you can answer (or not) without pulling your phone out? What do you need that the phone doesn't already do, because you sure as heck won't be browsing on it? A larger phone screen may or may not help most people but I doubt that assorted resolutions are on the table for apple.
Apple should. As he said, lots of people switched because Apple didn't offer a larger device. Had there been an offering by Apple, most of them would have stayed with the brand. Apple is 3 years too late and lost a lot of customers due to stubbornness. Now a fanboy would probably counter this by "good riddance", or something like that, so fanboys, have at it!
I think it will be 3 phones but like this:
iPhone 6c - Color Possibly 4.7 Size
iPhone 6 - Possibly 4.7 size
iPhone 6 Plus - 5.5 or so.
I also think the numbering system will go away so you can probably remove the 6 and put the word Air in.
2272 x 1280 is the only logical resolution
Everything else is just not the "apple thinking"
Hi. I don't see the reason why apple should do anything else than cut the pixes into 4 piecies like it always does.
on iphone 2G,3G iphone 3GS it was: 480 x 320
on iphone 4/4s was double: 960 x 640
iphone 5 just added lines but did not change the size 1136 x 640
It's the best choice because of the "resizing the bitmaps" problem.
And it's the only way to keep compatibility with old apps. When new resolution arrives, not all apps would be updated... like it was with the retina in iphone 4
So the only logical choice is 2272 x 1280.. which is enough ppi for all sizes.
The only question would be, if it's possible to do on 4,7 inch display.. this could really drain the battery faster than expected...
It's the same with the ipad. It's been always like this
Everything else is just not the "apple thinking"
Hi. I don't see the reason why apple should do anything else than cut the pixes into 4 piecies like it always does.
on iphone 2G,3G iphone 3GS it was: 480 x 320
on iphone 4/4s was double: 960 x 640
iphone 5 just added lines but did not change the size 1136 x 640
It's the best choice because of the "resizing the bitmaps" problem.
And it's the only way to keep compatibility with old apps. When new resolution arrives, not all apps would be updated... like it was with the retina in iphone 4
So the only logical choice is 2272 x 1280.. which is enough ppi for all sizes.
The only question would be, if it's possible to do on 4,7 inch display.. this could really drain the battery faster than expected
...It's the same with the ipad. It's been always like this
You must. If not why post?
Apples finally waking up to the preferences of millions of consumers. Too bad it took the now mainstream, slow moving corporation, well over two years to come to the conclusion that Steve Jobs claim was wrong. 3.5" or 4.0" is not the perfect one and only screen size. It was fine in the beginning but it's 2014, tiny displays are old news.
While Apple programmed the worshipers to believe in a tiny screen, the mainstream customers were buying millions of large screen Androids. Those who simply didn't know any better bought the "cool phone". It worked great for Apple as you can see. Nothing beats Apples highly influential marketing spin. There's still loads of Apple devotees that won't buy it till Apple blesses it and gives them permission. As history has taught us, the moment Apple releases a product it's suddenly the best thing ever.
Sheer marketing genius. You've got to credit Apple for having control over so many people.
Their bottom line proves it
One size doews not fit all...
Not everyone has a murse or a purse.
If the iphone only comes in a larger size then I'll have to defect, as size does matter!
Not everyone has a murse or a purse.
If the iphone only comes in a larger size then I'll have to defect, as size does matter!
I highly doubt they are going to use 4 inches again. At least not for their flagship phone(s).
Marketing needs something bigger this time:
1) bigger screen size and resolution, better display overall
2) while keeping the slim design intact
3) faster SoC (A7 on steroids), this includes
3.1) new PowerVR GPU
3.2) more RAM (yes, this time, this will definitely happen) and probably a wider memory interface to support the higher resolution
3.3) new PowerVR H.265 (HEVC) decoding support (probably up to 2160@60) (this is a must for 2014, since Apple surely doesn´t want to be behind transitioning their iTunes movies to the new standard, step by step of course, when available)
4) improved camera
There are so many advantages with going with a bigger screen size, like better thermal headroom, bigger battery, more space for other components like RAM or something else we don´t even know of.
There will probably be an A7 on steroids (named A8), which further improves upon Cyclone, includes the bigger PowerVR series 6 Rogue GPU to cope with the higher resolution (6XT is probably still too far off) and for that a bigger casing would also make sense, probably on 20nm TSMC (20nm with FinFETs is still too far of).
I also highly doubt 5.5 inches, that´s way too big.
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OK, so then you are just grabbing "facts" from thin air then. Got it.
Same thing EVERYONE on here does
Right, size does matter. Your small 3.5/4in screen is WAY too small for anything I would want to do. Just like my 5.7in screen is too big for you. I don't carry a murse or whatever you are calling it and I'm able to do everything just like normal. So are millions of other people.
So why can't Apple make different screen sizes so people have a choice?
That would be useless for people who must run OSX or Windows via BootCamp on the most portable device (a MBA). ARM processors (iOS) can't replace x86 yet and who know when they will.
I think it's a good thing you aren't running Apple.
Just because the size of the screen gets larger, doesn't necessarily mean an increase in device size. As it is, there is a lot of wasted bezel space on the iPhone. That bezel would become screen real estate.
The MBP line will continue to get thinner and lighter, and will be the laptops line of choice for people needing to run OSes like OS X and softwares going with.
Apple will need to offer simpler laptop to use for home, running iOS with apps updated for the wider screen and use cases.
Compare your use of your Mac laptop and your iPad, the level of knowledge required for maintenance is not the same order of magnitude.
An iPad will never be able to comfortably replace a laptop, but current OS X laptops are too hard to use/configure/maintain/update/etc. for basic users. And I don't want OS X to be dumbed down.
Buttons, icons and other interface elements will stay the same size if they keep the same screen density.
A larger screen doesn't automatically means increased PPI. In fact it's harder to produce larger high PPI screens. (To anyone expecting 12" 4K screens in 2014, tough luck...)
That's why I think the larger devices won't go over 324 PPI. (The benefits are not big enough to justify forcing devs to resize all of their touch targets and artwork).
If they make a 5.7" phablet at 1536x1024 (324PPI) for example, buttons will appear the same size. Much the UI elements appear the same size (physically and internally in terms of pixel size) on both the iPhone and iPad mini.
The 9.7" iPad has a lower PPI, so it makes the UI a little bigger but not too much, so it's not a problem for finger usage and thus doesn't require devs to resize UI elements.
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Have you seen the BOM of a iPad? A 4k 12,9" panel will properly add 80-160 US$ to it. And Apple is not about was consumer wants. Never was.
They following a vision for a specific future. Evolving the Eco system.
The "taller" screen was a move to a 16x9 aspect ratio.
I went from a 4S to a 5S and I certainly enjoy it. Whenever I use someone's 4S today I can't stand it.
But that's just me
I never said apple will go for those screens..in fact what i said was exactly the opposite..that a 4k display or even a 2k display would not be the driving force behind the device from a desirability point of view..It would be the added features and a fresh UI compared to what the current gen of entry level MBA's offer..
And the point of having a resolution that high is...? Sorry? I must be missing something.
This moronic infatuation with PPI above ~300 is... well, a moronic infatuation. Apple's MacBook Pros with retina don't even have (close) to that. Why would they put it on a phone before a computer?
Why had to have it a point?
There is no physical law, that says 300 ppi is enough. More is always better. Later this year or 2015, will be 4k the norm for a high end tablets. It is a irreversible process. Last SID, manufacturers showed display prototypes for this application. It is more of a SoC than display problem. The current SoC generation is not designed for this use. But there will come: Nvidia Tegra K1, Apple A8(X), Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 and Intel Atom 'Bay Trail'.