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Apple took too long, I've now finally switched to Android (as have lots of people I know).

Yes. And everyone knows that once you switch from one phone operating system to another, it's physically impossible to go back to the one you just came from two months ago.
 
Why had to have it a point?

There is no physical law, that says 300 ppi is enough. More is always better. Later this year or 2015, will be 4k the norm for a high end tablets.

Erm... there are indeed "physical laws" that indicate 300 PPI is enough... like, for example, the density of photoreceptors in the average human eye. Or the simple fact that you can't tell the bloody difference between 300, 330, or 3300 PPI displays unless you're pressing your nose to the screen (which, I think, perhaps defeats the purpose of using your device in the first place).

Oh good lord. More is NOT always better. More means greater complexity and expense, often with little to no benefit to the customer or the customer's wallet. And maybe they'll want to make 400k the norm, but that doesn't mean that there's any reason to go there.

Let me guess; you demand the latest and greatest MacBook Pro/Mac Pro in order to write emails and Word documents.

It is a irreversible process. Last SID, manufacturers showed display prototypes for this application. It is more of a SoC than display problem. The current SoC generation is not designed for this use. But there will come: Nvidia Tegra K1, Apple A8(X), Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 and Intel Atom 'Bay Trail'.

It's actually not an irreversible process, but that's fine. I guess by "SoC" you mean the GPU... I suppose you're laboring under the delusion that current GPUs aren't powerful enough to push more pixels for ordinary use? I assure you they are. Ten year old GPUs could do it. Not for gaming, of course, but that's another issue. The 13 year old original Radeon Mac Edition 32 MB DDR in my Beige G3 could easily and happily push 2048x1536 pixels in Mac OS X 10.4.11. And that was a PCI card!
 
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There is probably more customers and margins to gain with a sub-1k$ iOS laptop sold for home than with the current MBA11 sales (and considering part of the MBA line customers can switch to a lighter MBP13 if the MBA line disappear).
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Who the hell is going to pay anything close to $1000 for an iOS based (larger) iPad with a keyboard?!

Who would switch from the current MBA when: a) All of their current software wouldn't work and b) There won't be any comparable software available if they suddenly release an ARM based MBA.

That is so 'Windows RT' like (which was a miserable failure).

How old are the people that think a iOS type laptop will be a big success next year? It just seems so incredibly naive at this time.

I guess I could be wrong. I will vote with my wallet. Apple could gain $3K (or more) !from me if they make 11" MBA/MBP with a retina display. Otherwise I'll buy a Windows machine that can run the software I must use for my job. Maybe I should start looking now. I love my 11" MBA but the screen is out of date relative to nearly ALL notebooks out there.

I'd hate to leave Apple but if they do the incredibly stupid thing of forcing the 11" MBA to be an iOS toy then I will have no choice but to spend my money elsewhere.
 
Yes, for developer reasons, this is true.

The A7 (and the future A8) are definitely capable of much higher resolutions, but still at the cost of battery life, though I'm sure 1920x1080 could probably be a sweet spot.

To be honest, it does make sense for :apple: to get on a more "standard" [resolution] scale...but then again, that has never been like them. It would have been wonderful had the original iPhone been 540x360, retina 1080x720, iPhone 5 1280x720, and iPhone 6 finally jump to full 1080p. There would have been [virtually] no fragmentation, and they would certainly not be in the predicament they are in now (with developers).

But alas, you are right...we shall see soon enough what happens.

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Yes, this is the most logical thing to do.
Actually there still would be fragmentation as that would require developers support three different resolutions. It's not too bad, but less is better.

Moving to 1704x960 would allow them to increase the physical size of the screen, whilst keeping complete compatibility with current apps.
 
Who the hell is going to pay anything close to $1000 for an iOS based (larger) iPad with a keyboard?!

Who would switch from the current MBA when: a) All of their current software wouldn't work and b) There won't be any comparable software available if they suddenly release an ARM based MBA.

That is so 'Windows RT' like (which was a miserable failure).
The screen size and resolution i gave in example were hinting to the answer: on the 11.9" 16:9 screen (slightly larger than the MBA11's screen) running the evolved version of iOS, you'd run any iOS iPad app in letterbox mode the day of launch, just as you did when the iPhone 5 launched with 3:2 iPhone apps. Any app capable to run in landscape on the [2x] 1024x768 screen of the iPad would be run on the [2x] 1366x768 screen of this iOS touchscreen+keyboard foldable combo, and only waiting for devs' update to go fullscreen.
What was Windows RT app eco-system at launch?

How old are the people that think a iOS type laptop will be a big success next year? It just seems so incredibly naive at this time.
Why do you want segmentation on age?
People surfing the web, using e-mail, calendar, iWork, iLife etc. and Twitter, Facebook, etc. (check the iPad app store for the complete list, and try to imagine what new usages developers could invent once the machine would be in the wild).
Many people don't work nor need a full MS Office at home, or XCode, or full Adobe PS, or Fusion/Parallel, or what you want.
I can imagine grand-parents as interested in a simple to use device like that, as well as kids, or adults of any age. A question is what usage can you have, and who?
Many people rely on others (us generally, on such forums) for using their computer, installing software, upgrading the system, etc. And these people often also don't need pro apps. Can a generalist OS like OS X be more simplified to be completely usable and understandable by such people, or is it even necessary?

I guess I could be wrong. I will vote with my wallet. Apple could gain $3K (or more) !from me if they make 11" MBA/MBP with a retina display. Otherwise I'll buy a Windows machine that can run the software I must use for my job. Maybe I should start looking now. I love my 11" MBA but the screen is out of date relative to nearly ALL notebooks out there.

I'd hate to leave Apple but if they do the incredibly stupid thing of forcing the 11" MBA to be an iOS toy then I will have no choice but to spend my money elsewhere.
You can't have currently a retina MBA11 or you'd already have it in stores. With a retina screen (in 2x HiDPI) draining more power, you'd need to cram in a better chip than the one in the current MBA11, and with better graphics. Draining more power too. Dissipating more heat. You'd need more room, for larger batteries, for bigger fans. What you want is not possible today, you can't retain the same thin and light form factor.
The ARM chips like Apple's A7 or the intel Atom Bay Trail are starting to look like desktop-class chips. Next generation proc, before the end of 2014, should be perfectly capable to offer all the power needed to drive devices such as i describe and to run apps dedicated to the new usages such devices would offer.
That doesn't prevent intel from making even better mobile desktop-class x86 chips, and when available, Apple to use them in always thinner and lighter laptops. A question is what architecture will be first? I don't think impossible before the end of the year to release a foldable combo touchscreen+keyboard at least as thin and light as the current MBA11 but with a retina display, based on the A8 and running an evolved iOS with all the currently available app catalog and more/better to come. That's all still young a platform.
The MBA11 can disappear, the MBA13 and the rMBP13 can merge, and maybe the smaller form factor of OS X laptop like the MBA11 could re-appear in a close future with retina screens when possible and if it's not niche / not dwarfed by their iOS counter-part.
 
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So, why hasn't Apple done anything like Resolution Independence? :D

Exactly! It would have made things so much easier.

Apple has only had 2 major changes in iPhone screens during its history:

- The move to Retina by doubling the resolution
- The move to 16:9 by adding more vertical resolution

Both of those still relied on hard-coded pixel dimensions as per the iOS SDK. Apple told you what size to make the assets in your apps... and you obeyed.

But imagine if you could build your apps in such a way that it didn't matter how many pixels the screen has?

Mind = Blown :D
 
Once you go big screen, you can't go back. I love my Note 3. Even 5" phones feel puny now. Whoever wants to stick to 4" phones must wear skinny jeans or is a young Asian chick.

No, I'm a 64 year old caucasion male who wears loos fitting pants with cargo pockets, and I want to stick with the 4" screen.
 
Having used many big androids in my day, I'd say a 4.5-4.8 inch screen with double the pixels of the 5s screen would be perfect. Slim bezels and a bigger longer lasting battery would be ideal with this new screen. Can't wait till September .
 
Ooh, damn. I've seen enough messy custody battles among my friends that I've pretty much decided to practice the rhythm method for the rest of my life. They don't look fun at all.

As for cars, I'm still waiting for the Teslas to hit it big. They're are some nice cars out there, but nothing's captured my attention quite like it.

You know what they call people who use the rhythm method? Parents.
 
Exactly! It would have made things so much easier.

Apple has only had 2 major changes in iPhone screens during its history:

- The move to Retina by doubling the resolution
- The move to 16:9 by adding more vertical resolution

Both of those still relied on hard-coded pixel dimensions as per the iOS SDK. Apple told you what size to make the assets in your apps... and you obeyed.

But imagine if you could build your apps in such a way that it didn't matter how many pixels the screen has?

Mind = Blown :D

Definitely. If all of the various screen size rumors are actually true, then Apple is entering into the mess and fragmentation of many screen sizes that the Android ecosystem has. It's interesting, if you looked at earlier versions of Mac OS X, you can see hints of some Resolution Independence. Could that be in iOS 8? :D

Anyways, I personally think that if I were to get a bigger phone, then 4.7'' would be great. Any more than that would be too much, but that's just MY opinion. :D
 
I do like bigger screen but nothing larger then 5"
As many have said, 4.7" could be the ideal size for me. I have seen people using some large galaxy notes and seriously looks very silly the way that thing is used as a phone. It covers half of the face when you are talking on it!
 
I really hope they keep the 4" screen iPhone around.. likely though the 6s will end up being the 4" screen.. Might not be getting the flagship next year.
 
Why does Apple get to dictate my user experience? For me and others the user experience comes with a larger screen to be more productive.

I'm sorry but this is hilarious :D
How does Apple dictate your user experience? Is not that you bought an 6" screen iPhone and all the sudden Apple toke it from you and change it to 4"! When you bought the product you were aware of the screen size, no?

On the side note, I do welcome larger screen. Personally I would want 4.7" screen but I have no problem if Apple did a larger one for whoever may want it.
 
The Note 3 and other phones of that size are just as pocketable and portable as your iPhone. These larger phones keep selling more and more every year. All those people have figured out how to carry the phone around.
A very ridiculous statement .... In my opinion Note 3 is not even a phone and every time I see someone making a phone call on those devices it makes me laugh ...

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For the majority of the iPhone user base really. Only a small perfect would prefer smaller iPhones. Society has perpetuated that bigger = better.

Phones went from BIG to small back to BIG.

And do you know why ? Because it was the only way for android phone makers to try to differentiate from otherwise identical products. Make it bigger at every iteration . With more cores. With more MHz.

I like Apple approach: reduced form factor, dual core efficient and fast architecture, low frequencies.
I really don't like the idea of an Apple phablet.
 
I'm sure that a 4.7'' screen can fit in current iphone 5 case. The home button can become a rectangle instead a circle who is taking waaay to much space, same for the top border...

Anyway this is insane to put a 5.5'' screen as you need to add the borders sizes to it... I tested the Nokia phablet 6''... Nice but as an iPad mini... Not usable as a phone...

What I can immagine is a phablet in the pocket, a Bluetooth headset and a smart watch to control the phablet(but this is samsung stuff no?)

Anyway just wait and see.
 
A very ridiculous statement .... In my opinion Note 3 is not even a phone and every time I see someone making a phone call on those devices it makes me laugh ...

Well, that tells me more about your insecurities than the phone. Having used a 6" Lumia 1520, I can tell you that it is pocketable (i.e. it fits nicely in my coat, I never carry anything in my pants/shirt pockets) and useable with one hand (glove size 10-11) quite nicely. Now, since the Note 3 is smaller in every regard, it is even more portable, pocketable and "onehanduseable".
 
Yeah... I'm totally sure it is. I remember when I switched from my Galaxy to iPhone, I totally kept on hanging out on Android forums, just so I could troll & brag about how much I loved my iPhone.
Wait...... no I didn't. I was actually having fun using my new phone.
Lol, sounds like you are here to justify your purchase to yourself.

It's a very common Behavior here ...
Lot of fandroids in iPhone and iPad section of this forum and you can see post speaking about Google and Samsung in almost every single thread.
This is something I really can't understand. I'm an active user of android and windows based forums (since I own a couple of Galaxy and a Lumia) but I never , NEVER, speaks about my Apple devices on those forums.
It is useless.
 
I tested the Nokia phablet 6''... Nice but as an iPad mini... Not usable as a phone...

Maybe you should change your nick to "33girl" instead... :)

No, I do admit that 6" is pushing the limits, and it is verging on "too big" even in my opinion, and I do like big screens. I'd love a 1520-specced Lumia with a 5" screen, though. Kinda like the Verizon Icon, but with less fugliness...
 
Millions of people disagree with this thought process.

And you are here to defend them ?
Or just to "illuminate" us about how fantastic Samsung is ?
I'm quite sure you could join them on any Samsung forum to speak about a fantastic 17" galaxy Note or a wonderful 6" Galaxy phone :D
 
And you are here to defend them ?
Or just to "illuminate" us about how fantastic Samsung is ?
I'm quite sure you could join them on any Samsung forum to speak about a fantastic 17" galaxy Note or a wonderful 6" Galaxy phone :D

Or maybe you should realize that the iPhone (or any Apple product, or even Apple for that matter) does not exist in isolation. It is natural and even necessary to compare it with competing products in order to be able to make a rational purchase decision.

Sure, I do realize that "the R-word" doesn't really play well at Apple forums, but one can always dream...
 
Maybe you should change your nick to "33girl" instead... :)

The 1950's called....
They want their sexism back!

Lol, I knew somebody had to show their stripes with ignorant "big phones are for big tough manly men like me!" bs commentary.
 
The 1950's called....

They want their sexism back!



Lol, I knew somebody had to show their stripes with ignorant "big phones are for big tough manly men like me!" bs commentary.


Do you know what a smiley is, and what they convey? I'm guessing you don't, so you might want to check that out. Makes it a helluva lot easier to be on the interwebs...
 
Oh, my bad...
Gosh, you must NOT be a troll. I mean.... sure you just started name-calling after a SINGLE reply from me & sure that reply was based on your pompous and douchey "thanks" post that you had, pretending like you didn't understand the previous poster's sarcastic "have fun" reply to your also pompous & douchey brag post about your Android phone which you love so much, lol.
You are a joke that writes itself! =) thank you!!!

Sensitive thugs, y'all need hugs.
 
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