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design has become organic design
form being dictated more and more by function, less and less by traditional aesthetics
apple has always relied on 2 processes to dictate its hardware designs:
1 how far it can push its suppliers to innovate and/or incorporate its supplier's advanced tech into apple products (apple can't engineer all componentry, it is limited by what suppliers like sony and broadcom have been able to make. size of camera etc
2 wanting to maximize its margins by introducing new features at the right time (not needing to be first, but rather to pick the exact timing when its brand recognition and overall marketing power can accelerate demand for the new feature

dig it. its very very apple. its what makes apple apple. it hasn't changed.
 
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Jony isn't designing the iPhone anymore. He has moved on to bigger projects.

Right, thanks for reminding me! Fire him (for iOS 7) and then fire whoever is working on iPhone hardware now.
 
I cannot be the only one thinking Apple is screwing around with us. Every leak is different from the other. :rolleyes:

Three phones. Two phones. Headphone jack, no headphone jack...

I was just thinking about this the other day. Usually we have a pretty good sense about what they should do, but this year everyone is spewing conflicting info!
 
Why is it embarrassing?

What do you mean? You cannot compare the image quality of a phone vs an actual camera. If you're using a phone and calling yourself a "photographer," you're basically no better than any instagramer.
 
What do you mean? You cannot compare the image quality of a phone vs an actual camera. If you're using a phone and calling yourself a "photographer," you're basically no better than any instagramer.

Ah, ok... I thought photography is about making compelling photographs that have the power to stir a viewer's imagination, evoking a reaction.

It sounds like what you're saying it's really about using a certain kind of gear? Tell me more if you have time...
 
What do you mean? You cannot compare the image quality of a phone vs an actual camera. If you're using a phone and calling yourself a "photographer," you're basically no better than any instagramer.

When I'm out photographing birds with a heavy 400mm lens, using my iPhone for a quick wide landscape shot is a lot easier than juggling lenses, caps, and hoods to take a 35mm shot. When it's sunny out, the iPhone 6s camera does a great job with HDR landscape shots.

(Focal lengths in this post are for APS-C lenses -- for reference for any non-photographers, focal length determines how wide the shot is and has nothing to do with quality, the 400mm lens is about equivalent to looking through 60x binoculars, the 35mm is similar to what your eye sees, and the iPhone camera would be something 15mm for comparison)
 
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The phone cut comment is an exaggeration. No need to take it so literally.
Extra battery options are either the baby bump on the back, or any other battery case that uses a micro USB connection instead of lightning connector.
Those are not really acceptable options at all.
In your exaggerations, we're still talking about the rumored future iPhone, right?

One of those rumors includes a smart connector. This suggests there will be additional battery case options for future iPhone user. Options that don't require every iPhone user to carry around something as thick and heavy as a brick*.

*not meant to be taken literally.
 
Apple at work flaunting its power and influence over the faithful. Obscenely Ugly... Yet they'll sell all they can build. Only Apple can pull it off.
 
At the end of the day I won't be buying, simply because I bought a 6s last year. So I don't see a justification for one. I am more interested in the iPad Pro 2.
 
In your exaggerations, we're still talking about the rumored future iPhone, right?

One of those rumors includes a smart connector. This suggests there will be additional battery case options for future iPhone user. Options that don't require every iPhone user to carry around something as thick and heavy as a brick*.

*not meant to be taken literally.
In regards to the smart connector, hopefully it will be licensed to third party.
Otherwise the ridiculous apple tax would apply...
 
It looks weird, so I hope the improved photo quality makes up for the increased ugliness.

Yeah, it doesn't look that great. We're not sure how next year's redesigned will look like, but I think it's a safe bet that it will look significantly better.
 
iPhone are not that wide, maybe a 28mm on APS-C
If we are being pedantic, it would be equivalent to about 30mm on full frame, which is about 19mm give or take on APS-C. :) In my opinion they are quite wide, I would love some optical trickery with two cameras to emulate 50mm without degradation.
 
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Ah, ok... I thought photography is about making compelling photographs that have the power to stir a viewer's imagination, evoking a reaction.

It sounds like what you're saying it's really about using a certain kind of gear? Tell me more if you have time...
I think the conversation is the right tools for the right job. A surgeon can get the job done with a bottle of whiskey and a hacksaw but...a photographer can take a compelling snap with a pin hole camera, but would they want to cover nascar with it.
 
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What do you mean? You cannot compare the image quality of a phone vs an actual camera. If you're using a phone and calling yourself a "photographer," you're basically no better than any instagramer.

Oh look, an elitist who thinks the gear makes the photograph. It's an old saying, but 100% true: The camera you have on you is better than the one you left at home. Who carries a DSLR with them 24/7 just in case they see something and want to capture it? Many of the best photographs ever taken were done on cameras that are inferior to an iPhone camera. What made them special was capturing the moment, not how many megapixels the camera had.
 
If true, it looks ugly. Apple has truly been slipping in design as of late. Now the phone feels about as tactile in hand as a slippery bar of soap, plus looks ridiculous on the back, and still has external antennas. Like, what the actual .... ?
 
That dual camera mess looks so un-Apple like.

So did the antenna bands 2 years ago before iPhone 6 was released.
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It's just people leaking stuff to get clicks. This time of year is always exciting. It's usually a week before the reveal the actual phone leaks, and apple jokes about it on stage lol.

Actually leaks have been most of the times right for every single model. With iPhone 6, the design leak was out as early as January if i remember correctly. And it turned out to be exactly as the one leaked.
 
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