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I'll sooner teach my dog to speak Chinese than Samsung or anyone will be able to produce foldable glass that doesn't eventually crack or break. Someone working at these companies must have a degree in physics, they really need to invite that person to their bull sessions to inject some scientific sense into their stubborn heads.
 
The louder we laugh the more determined they get. Bless their souls.

So funny, and yet Microsoft will soon release items that are done right: dual screens.

These new dual screen Surfaces look cool. I mean, really cool.
 
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Yeah that's true. It's not like the first-gen version has been out long enough for them to find and fix all major issues with it though. The technology is still super new is what I was getting at.

because there were no issues with their first phone to iron out in their subsequent phones?

okay 👌
 
I think the idea on paper is great, I mean who wouldn't want a phone that can double its size and have a giant screen? There's a point of companies trying to do those phones, specially since smartphones haven't trully made a big leap since many years ago. The problem is the technology is not there yet, and the luxury prices definitely kill it.

To start with a mechanical system is a no-no. You can't rely to users to use and abuse mechanical systems like that (tiny besel and thickness, fragile...), and to add to that: mechanical parts will eventually end up failing sooner than electronic parts, even if user treats them well. I'd say the only reliable mechanics we have today are keyboards and fans (and those have been evolving for decades), the rest is just asking for troubles.

The day we'll have reliable "foldable" phones will be when the materials allow us to avoid the mechanical part: an electronic sheet that it's plastic or elastic (not the plastic material, but the quality of being so), that has all the processing power in it. And that can only be made with graphene which right now is more an unicorn than a real option.
 
If you want a foldable phone, just have two screens that fit precisely, snugly together ( I doubt the engineering is that hard). If the screen is edge-to-edge pixels, you won't notice or care about a very minor seam. The repeatedly folding part will always, always be fragile, because that's how various branches of science work.
 
Absolutely! That TV is amazing!

But the rollable TV might only open and close once a day... and its bendable radius is much bigger than the tiny crease in a phone.

I expect the rollable TV to survive its intended life-cycle.

These current foldable phones... not so much. :p

I have a 65” OLED on the wall and a 10 foot projection screen that comes down from the ceiling in front of it when I want to use the projector. Looking forward to the day when I can replace them both with a roll-up OLED that comes down from the ceiling.
 
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I can only imagine the outrage if Apple released a foldable phone and this happened, YouTube clickbait videos would crash the internet for weeks lol. Foldable phones tho...I'll never get one till I'm forced onto it personally.
 
I know it's just a Samsung phone, but still, watching this video made me cringe as it was being bent to destruction... it hurts me to see devices being abused like this!

Every time I see a Samsung phone, all I can think of is that it's infested with spyware from Google and the Chinese government. It's hard not to see one being bent to destruction as an absolute win.
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Someone working at these companies must have a degree in physics, they really need to invite that person to their bull sessions to inject some scientific sense into their stubborn heads.

When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. -- A.C. Clarke

It's truly amazing that after literally millennia of people like you making that exact same statement over and over and over and over and being proven wrong every single time, there's still people willing to repeat it and be proven wrong yet again.

If someone cared to take the time, they could list 10's of thousands of "impossible" things that we now consider common place.

I now believe the only thing that is truly impossible is getting small-minded people to stop saying things are impossible every time they encounter something beyond their limited understanding.
 
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This line is absurd; a company can innovate without releasing faulty product into the world, knowingly or otherwise. That’s what R&D and testing are for. Can you catch everything? No; that’s fine, and you have to roll with those punches.

But the Galaxy Fold situation proved that Samsung was in such a hurry to show off their shiny new thing that they either skipped a lot of QA or failed to fully consider how people who didn’t understand the limitations of the technology. That’s why the Galaxy Fold and Galaxy Z Flip now come with warning labels telling you not to, for example, push the screen too hard.

That’s not innovation, that’s cheaping out on testing expenses and expecting people to pay sizable sums so that they can be the guinea pigs instead.

I don’t think that line is absurd at all. Name one company that hasn’t released a product with some form of issue. The fact is, a small subset of people (Tech reviewers) had issues with the fold, many others didn’t. It’s just that tech reviewers made a huge deal out of it on some of the largest social platforms ever. Do you think they would have been more attuned or cautious had they spent their own $2000 on it?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that companies should knowing put trash out there, but they’ve got to start somewhere. I think we all are smart enough to be cautious about the first generation of most things high tech. The tablet\phone isn’t a medical or safety device. It doesn’t need to be everything for everyone. I’m sure it’s not the first product that we were told “you’re holding it wrong” out the gate. 😉

Life is too short to argue about nonsense. I want them to continue to push the limit. Like I said, people who can afford it will buy it regardless of if it’s perfect or not.

I certainly don’t want to wait three, four years for this to be perfect. I want to see what they’ve got now..
 
it remains a solution in search of a problem.
Folding phones - a solution in search of a problem.
These are a solution in search of a problem.

I bet you folks all think you're so unique and clever for using this tired expression.

Phones with a screen larger than what you would normally be able to fit in your pocket, solves a real problem. None of them do so reliably, but to say that there's no benefit to the concept of a folding phone is just not true.
 
I had an iPhone that had a broken lighting port right out of the box. Stuff happens.

Samsung has a limited production of these and continues to offer special repair options and assistance for its foldables.

Samsung’s foldables right now are not a brand that would appeal to cautious consumers carefully watching the change from their sofa cushions. They are putting stuff on the bleeding edge and see who bites. There are always enough crazy technology geeks who do. And that’s who they’re marketing it to, social media influencers with some money to burn on stuff like this and need something to hype.

This is not a phone for mom or grandma. Which is why I’m not buying it. That phone would not survive a week with me. I’m a mom. I break shtuff. The kids break shtuff. Samsung knows that. They aren’t marketing it to me.
The screen is garbage and normal use ruins it. The mechanism is flawed as well and it’s an overall terrible design with zero chance of success.
 
May be the application of the bendable display is to wrap it around a curve surface and call it a day.
 
A phone with a glass or glass-like screen that folds is having design and durability issues? In other news water is wet. This design concept is great in theory. Kind of like the AirPower. In practice, good luck with that. I’m sure at some point if enough resources are put in the design may work but will the R&D costs and bad press that go to vendors who rush their concepts to market be worth it? I don’t think so.

If I were Tim Cook I would have a team of talented engineers working on this but I’d be loathe to rush anything to market unless or until they nail it in the same way they nailed multitouch prior to making the decision to bring the iPhone to market. Apple is presently doing this with Touch ID. They’ve been working on under the screen Touch ID functionality for years now. They won’t ship a product with it until it’s ready.
 
I really like the idea of a small phone that folds into a normal size one, way more useful than the phone to tablet folding I think. Hopefully the growing pains get sorted out as the technology improves.
 
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