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Built to fail on purpose. Noone really wants this product and it will be an extremely long time before a material can be developed that is both hard and soft at the same time both to avoid scratches and to bend without distortion hundreds of thousands of times. Easier to engineer a two screen phone that perfectly or imperfectly aligns the screens if anyone cares for the form factor.
 
"Foldable smartphones are the latest device trend..."

...created solely by the companies, who evidently did zero market research, as the market for these is tiny, if not completely nonexistent.
 
I respect these companies more for assuming this risk and trying out new things that can fail, for the sake of moving technology forward. As long as they honor any warranties, support, etc.

That’s despite me thinking that foldable phones in this form factor might not be “forward.”
I disagree. How can you sell a phone for $1400 that breaks in a week. Or worse, while in transit to your house after ordering online. I can accept software issues, because of the billions of software and setting combinations possible, but any extensive testing should have brought up these failures.

I believe they knew and released it anyway.
 
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Yeah that's true. It's not like the first-gen version has been out long enough for them to find and fix all major issues with it though. The technology is still super new is what I was getting at.
Issues that appear immediately from doing the very thing they are hyped up to do, “fold”, is unacceptable. Period!
 
Meanwhile Apple sits back watching Samsung, Huawei, and Moto experiment on their customers' dimes. Apple knows full well the pitfalls of this technology but is unwilling to subject their customers to their experiments. When these issues are worked out (if even possible, and I kinda doubt it) Apple may look further into releasing a product. The same goes for the 5G hype. Customers who plunked down big bucks for a 5G phone aren't getting their money's worth and won't for at least another year or so.
 
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It’s early tech so I suppose we shouldn’t be that surprised. But I think it’s still amazing that we’ve even come this far with it. Really excited to see what the next 3 years of this form factor brings.
 
On a related note, I don’t understand the people who complain about the iPhone “not being innovative enough.”

It’s a mature market, of course everything we see now is going to be iterative.

Foldable phones is change for the sake of change. It doesn’t add ease of use or anything of value.

it adds a lot, You just don’t wanna see it.
The flip adds a screen protection when closed and a stand mechanism the fold adds a big screen
 
Meanwhile Apple sits back watching Samsung, Huawei, and Moto experiment on their customers' dimes. Apple knows full well the pitfalls of this technology but is unwilling to subject their customers to their experiments. When these issues are worked out (if even possible, and I kinda doubt it) Apple may look further into releasing a product. The same goes for the 5G hype. Customers who plunked down big bucks for a 5G phone aren't getting their money's worth and won't for at least another year or so.

Apple beat them all to bendable devices...
 
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Drug dealers are not happy with these "flip phones". Saul Goodman doesn't even need to break it after each call 😂
 
Meanwhile Apple sits back watching Samsung, Huawei, and Moto experiment on their customers' dimes. Apple knows full well the pitfalls of this technology but is unwilling to subject their customers to their experiments. When these issues are worked out (if even possible, and I kinda doubt it) Apple may look further into releasing a product. The same goes for the 5G hype. Customers who plunked down big bucks for a 5G phone aren't getting their money's worth and won't for at least another year or so.
Apple couldn’t release a 5G phone until they patched things up with Qualcomm. Also don’t make displays. They need to sit back and wait for the likes of Samsung to perfect foldable displays so they can then buy said displays from Samsung.
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They've actually had bendy displays for many years now... like over a decade. Apple buys their displays (sometimes from Samsung). Samsung actually manufactures them.
Apple buy all of their OLED displays from Samsung and all of their displays have been manufactured by other companies. Apple don’t make displays.
 
As many people like me repeatedly warned, flexing materials causes stress and possible breakage. If you want a folding phone, then use two flat screens and a very high-precision hinge to join them. The gap between the screens just needs to be as small as the gap between pixels.

This. Two "normal" glass screens, with a hinge system designed to join the two together. Would need to be a precision fold, but it would be incredible.
 
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I disagree. How can you sell a phone for $1400 that breaks in a week. Or worse, while in transit to your house after ordering online. I can accept software issues, because of the billions of software and setting combinations possible, but any extensive testing should have brought up these failures.

I believe they knew and released it anyway.
I had an iPhone that had a broken lighting port right out of the box. Stuff happens.

Samsung has a limited production of these and continues to offer special repair options and assistance for its foldables.

Samsung’s foldables right now are not a brand that would appeal to cautious consumers carefully watching the change from their sofa cushions. They are putting stuff on the bleeding edge and see who bites. There are always enough crazy technology geeks who do. And that’s who they’re marketing it to, social media influencers with some money to burn on stuff like this and need something to hype.

This is not a phone for mom or grandma. Which is why I’m not buying it. That phone would not survive a week with me. I’m a mom. I break shtuff. The kids break shtuff. Samsung knows that. They aren’t marketing it to me.
 
Really dumb idea. Yes flexible screens have a use case, but smartphones are not it.
if you want a more pocketable phone, buy a smaller one. I hear Apple has a smaller one coming later this year.

You can never have ONE tool be THE best tool for everything, you will always need the best solution for the particular use case. I don’t think these things solve any particular use case very well.
 
I'm still not a fan of the folding displays. I don't see them providing an increase in usability but they do introduce a high cost and extreme fragility. So you get something that can brake easier costing a lot of money but doesn't give you new functionality
 
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On a related note, I don’t understand the people who complain about the iPhone “not being innovative enough.”

We don't want innovation, we want improvement. What these companies are doing is innovation, but it doesn't produce a product that is any improvement to what exist. If you take price and quality into consideration, it sees an iPhone 8 or 8+, together with an iPad Mini, is much better value for money.
 
I respect these companies more for assuming this risk and trying out new things that can fail, for the sake of moving technology forward. As long as they honor any warranties, support, etc.

That’s despite me thinking that foldable phones in this form factor might not be “forward.”
Basically, these companies are using their customers as testers for new tech. High price, limited production, small economic risk. If it does not work, drop it off, if it works, continue pushing with more agresive pricing.

I respect a company that is diligent and undertakes a comprehensive R&D before deploying a product to the market in order to gurantee a maximum satisfaction rate to its customers.

Trying is not enough.
 
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