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I feel it's worth mentioning that the worlds largest Titanium producer is Russia, with China providing most of the raw materials. It might be getting harder and harder to get titanium, because Russia needs the titanium for it's own needs but also because global market instabilities are causing significant price increases.

Aka, Apple may be forced to significantly reduce it's consumption of titanium in order to control costs.
 
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There are many types of aluminum. The same goes for titanium. I wonder what type of aluminum the iPhone 17 Pro/Max will have. Some older Apple iPhones and iPads were 6000 and 7000 series aluminum.

Regardless though, I will be using a case.
Yup, high-quality aluminum is strong enough to avoid bends in phones, especially when the housing is designed to eliminate weak spots, but unfortunately even the best aluminum is much easier to scratch or just scuff than titanium, so people who don't put their iPhones into a case might be seeing more signs of wear.
 
It's lame. It was lame on the Pixel, too. I want a beautiful rubberized phone that I don't need a case for. Then they can let the case manufactures learn the dimensions from the product and we won't get these leaks.
 
Depends what's under it, I'd guess. Maybe the lens/sensor system needs more room (remember the front and rear cameras, FaceID and LIDAR are all clustered at the top of the device), maybe the rumored glass is there for better antenna reception of some sort. Maybe by jamming more stuff in the bump there's room in the phone for a larger battery. Some Pixel phones use a vapor chamber for heat dissipation (though apparently it's because their chips overheat more readily than Apple's) so maybe that's part of the answer. But to me that last one seems least likely of all, for several reasons.

If all these renders/designs pan out, then we'll see what's under the hood later in the year when we get teardowns.
These are really smart reasons, particularly increased space for a battery. That makes perfect sense. Although why put the flash and Lidar all the way on the other side then? If they wanted to increase the volume of the phone, they wouldn't have had to do that. I'm sure there's more than one reason.
 
I swear I'll come to tell you you were right it that's the case, but I'll also come to laugh at your comment if the bump is there to make room for a much bigger selfie-camera that would be a great improvement for younger buyers and content creators who represent and important target for Apple.
That actually could be part of the reason, you're right.
 
The 4/4S were gorgeous pieces of hardware design, just beautiful, especially compared to what they replaced. They were compared to a Leica camera, by Steve Jobs himself.
The 3G/3GS generation was by far the worst. Also the last generation I ever used a case on my phone. I didn’t mind covering up that plastic piece of junk! Talk about cheap and uninspired.
I agree. The 4 was stunning when it was released, marred only by Antennagate.
 
So many different types of camera bump/islands for the iPhones in the same series. Anyway now it is looking quite sure that this will be the final design. Not disappointed with the design. Waiting to hear about the colours for the year's iPhones.
 
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If any of these are true, Apple will be launching the ugliest piece of hardware since the 20th Anniversary Mac. Yeah, the Coffee Pot.
 
Depending on how far the lenses protrude from the island, it can prevent wobbling when on a table.

There's a much better way to do that than just extended a hideous massive block across the width. If this indeed is the design, it's a terrible one. There's going to be a lot of coping to be done, and as usual, it will be done without push back.
 
There's a much better way to do that than just extended a hideous massive block across the width. If this indeed is the design, it's a terrible one. There's going to be a lot of coping to be done, and as usual, it will be done without push back.
My iPhones are always in cases so the camera bump has always been irrelevant to me.
 
Saying that these phones will "go back to aluminum" doesn't make any sense, because the older Pro phones were STAINLESS STEEL, NOT ALUMINUM. For anyone who has only purchased Pro phones with stainless steel or titanium, you're going to be in for some major disappointment if they change them all to aluminum. It is ridiculously soft and super easy to scratch and dent in comparison. :eek:o_O:eek:
 
Saying that these phones will "go back to aluminum" doesn't make any sense, because the older Pro phones were STAINLESS STEEL, NOT ALUMINUM. For anyone who has only purchased Pro phones with stainless steel or titanium, you're going to be in for some major disappointment if they change them all to aluminum. It is ridiculously soft and super easy to scratch and dent in comparison. :eek:o_O:eek:
The flagship iPhones have been aluminum in the past, even if they weren't always named Pro.
 
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This is purely to make sure you have to buy a new case again. Can’t have the customer keeping their old case for a new device! It’s all about that sweet sweet accessory attachment metric with the sale of the phone. Meanwhile the old one goes in the bin but haha don’t worry we’re carbon neutral guys.
 
The flagship iPhones have been aluminum in the past, even if they weren't always named Pro.
That means going back to the iPhone 8. And you're right, they weren't named "Pro," which is a pretty big distinction. The Pro line has ALWAYS had premium materials for the frame metal. Having a "Pro" phone with an aluminum frame would be ridiculous.
 
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