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Yup. But if people had half a brain, you would disable services properly before leaving the service.

When you hire a web hosting company, and no longer wish to have their services, do you just stop paying the bill or do you first transfer all your web data to the new host first, shut down the existing host services (db and web), remove all the content, and then close your account?

I mean, I don't fault her for being upset, but people can't be ignorant against technology either just because marketing department says "It just works".

The act of leaving should be enough. This isn't anything like transferring a web host. Consumers should not be expected to disable individual services before switching to another... especially one that's supposed to be a standard and always follow your number, not your phone. When you cancel cable TV you aren't expected to cancel your premium channels first.
 
I can send them but she never receives them and i never receive hers.

That's what I'm saying. The texts from your Android will go out as SMSs and be received by your sister's iPhone as SMSs so there shouldn't be a problem there. If you're having the problem described in the article, there should only be a problem when your sister tries to send a message to you (the former iPhone user).
 
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Yup. But if people had half a brain, you would disable services properly before leaving the service.

When you hire a web hosting company, and no longer wish to have their services, do you just stop paying the bill or do you first transfer all your web data to the new host first, shut down the existing host services (db and web), remove all the content, and then close your account?

I mean, I don't fault her for being upset, but people can't be ignorant against technology either just because marketing department says "It just works".

I disabled imessage on all my Apple devices when I switched from iPhone to Android in late 2013. This didn't prevent me from missing messages from iPhone users for several days after the switch.
 
That's what I'm saying. The texts from your Android will go out as SMSs and be received by your sister's iPhone as SMSs so there shouldn't be a problem there. If you're having the problem described in the article, there should only be a problem when your sister tries to send a message to you (the former iPhone user).
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She sends messages to me but I never receive them.
 
I can send them but she never receives them and i never receive hers.

When you try to send a message to your sister is the text color blue or green? Blue means it’s sending via Messages. Green means it sending via SMS. You can force everything to SMS in the Settings app.

I have a feeling you both have a settings issue. Your problem is definitely NOT related to the topic at hand.
 
Good. Deal with it yourself. No need to wrangle in a class of people without their direct consent. This system where you have to opt-out of a class is inappropriate. It's a legal trick meant to maximize a pool of plaintiffs, thereby maximizing the payout to the lawyers, the real winners of class-action suits.
 
I disabled imessage on all my Apple devices when I switched from iPhone to Android in late 2013. This didn't prevent me from missing messages from iPhone users for several days after the switch.

Did they delete your message history? My extended family switched and had them text people who had iPhones and they never had issues once they removed everything on their end and had friends remove conversation history.
 
The act of leaving should be enough. This isn't anything like transferring a web host. Consumers should not be expected to disable individual services before switching to another... especially one that's supposed to be a standard and always follow your number, not your phone. When you cancel cable TV you aren't expected to cancel your premium channels first.

Yet, customers want more and more technology on a single device and continue to be ignorant on how its to be used.

The act of leaving isn't that hard. Remove your icloud and email accounts, disable iMessage, and restore your phone. I mean if you can't do that, you shouldn't own a smart phone.
 
When you try to send a message to your sister is the text color blue or green? Blue means it’s sending via Messages. Green means it sending via SMS. You can force everything to SMS in the Settings app.
He doesn't have an iPhone.
 
Not me but if your internet is out it's still an option.
Not you? Either you only have 2 friends with an iPhone or you don't know when you're getting or sending SMS. You think that you're using an imessage and you actually sending SMS.
 
Yet, customers want more and more technology on a single device and continue to be ignorant on how its to be used.

The act of leaving isn't that hard. Remove your icloud and email accounts, disable iMessage, and restore your phone. I mean if you can't do that, you shouldn't own a smart phone.

You're missing the point entirely. No one is talking about removing icloud or email accounts or restoring phones... this is about SMS, a feature that has always followed your number since the beginning. That is of course until iMessage came along. The sheer fact that some customers have difficulties with technology should be reason enough to make this as dead simple as possible... something that Apple has always touted as their reason for being. And just because they might not be as savvy as you or I doesn't negate their right to own these devices. In fact, the ones demanding more technology are probably the ones who didn't have any problems with iMessage and switching... those who don't quite understand it probably aren't asking for anything more than they currently have, yet are victims of the tech everyone else is screaming for and perhaps their peers or family members are pushing on them. How many non-tech-savvy individuals out there have upgraded to smartphones simply so they can video chat with their relatives (for an example)?

I think it's rather harsh for these people to be called ignorant while at the same time being pressured into keeping up.

But back to the point... SMS is SMS is SMS... it should always follow your number, plain and simple. Apple should never have been allowed to intercept this, or however it works.
 
It didn't fix it for me. I still can't send or receive messages with my sister who has an iPhone. I have to use a third party app like whatsapp. Very annoying and makes me angry at Apple and will probably not get an iPhone again just because of that reason.
And you don't think it could possibly be any issue with your perfect Android phone? It HAS to be Apple's fault? I have had multiple friends and even a few family members switch to Android, and we have ZERO problems with texting back and forth.
 
So is Judge Lucy H. Koh the only one in the entire US of A that can handle Apple cases then? Seems like it.

Anyway, I'm glad Apple are being taken to court for this, they only introduced their 'tool' after it gained very negative publicity with it's ridiculous locking of phone numbers. It's a very anti competitive move and underhanded.
Having one or two judges consolidates Apple's payroll
 
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Having dealt with this with a number of friends, this is actually incredibly annoying.

This should never have been a problem. It was.

Apple should have fixed it immediately. They didn't.

Apple should have at LEAST fixed it within a couple months. They didn't.

They deserved to lose this one, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, Apple makes some great products. But they're at fault here.
This.
 
I hope that even though this did not make class action, that the plaintiff wins. This may finally force apple to fix a clear issue (and no, a help page that shows steps for a work around solution is not up to Apple standards so lets not go there).
 
Just like how patent trolls bring their lawsuits to Eastern Texas, Apple brings their cases to Judge Koh.
 
I like the positioning that this is a win for Apple. It's not a win (yet) - it's less of a loss if found guilty. The expanse of the case has been reduced.

But I love reading the comments at the top of the thread immediately reducing the plaintiff as (paraphrasing) an idiot or insane. Clearly only sane and smart people use iPhones. Although, ironically, this thread might prove otherwise.
 
I got bitten by this when I switched from iPhone to BB10. My friend had to remove me from her iPhone contacts so that I would get SMS when she messaged me.

One would remain hostage to the iMessage system.
 
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