you got that wrong...based on those 2 statements...it means that this score is amazing because it has a proper increase even in this pointless GB
So probably in apps that takes full advantage of the 4k/8k ProRes...this will be huge
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So probably in apps that takes full advantage of the 4k/8k ProRes...this will be huge
If power consumption is higher, and battery size was increased to offset the increased power consumption, overall "battery life" should remain the same, if Apple increased the battery size appropriately.
If computers keep getting 20% faster every year, over time they will be a lot faster. Just like with everything else. Each individual improvement isn't very significant, but over time it makes a big difference.
Now let's see what battery life is like on this beast (with a decent 4K monitor, this could not only replace my iMac, but my old 11" MBA as well.....)
MacPro5,1 2009 128GB 24 Core - Geekbench 4 Score
2885 Single-Core Score
27194 Multi-Core Score
Not bad..... ah wait..... old geek bench....
6413 Multi-Core Score
Time to trade it in for a MacBook Air !!
2885 Single-Core Score
27194 Multi-Core Score
Not bad..... ah wait..... old geek bench....
MacPro5,1 2009 128GB 24 Core - Geekbench 5 Score
633 Single-Core Score6413 Multi-Core Score
Time to trade it in for a MacBook Air !!
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The jump to 3nm is likely going to give a nicer boost to speed, so I assume that's worth waiting for. M3 hopefully is when that happens.
I do wonder what the "M2 Pro/Max" MacBook Pro plans will be. They spent a ton of upgrade potential on the current 14/16" models by giving people what they wanted - 120hz, miniLED, fast CPU/GPU (Improvements will likely be a similar 20%), lots of port options, decent webcam, great keyboard/trackpad, great speakers. TBH there isn't really anything on the list that would get me to upgrade year over year.
I know that some people upgrade their phone every year but Macs tend to cycle over several years for most people.
My MacBook 2012 Retina maybe due an upgrade?!
Well, ten years is rather long, but yearly is frankly rare.
A lot of businesses just rotate them every three or four years, due to leasing durations, tax purposes, etc. At that point, the changes are significant enough. Year-over-year improvements don't really matter.
Chip gains are mostly useless.
I really regret, in my ignorance, buying an 8GB of ram M1 MBP. I am not a power user at all, a few tabs here and there, mail, calendar, notes, TV app. I am almost always in at least yellow alert for memory pressure and I hate it. Planned to keep my device 5-6 years.
I really regret, in my ignorance, buying an 8GB of ram M1 MBP. I am not a power user at all, a few tabs here and there, mail, calendar, notes, TV app. I am almost always in at least yellow alert for memory pressure and I hate it. Planned to keep my device 5-6 years.
Actually last generations from Intel and AMD had higher performance increases.
Zen 4 is set to improve in multi-core by 30-40% vs Zen 3 and at least by 15% in single core.
Yes, that's what they did to offset it, but it doesn't remove the fact that it still has a higher power draw which means to ensure performance Apple did a modification to the battery. In other words, the so called efficiencies of the M2 are not as true as Apple made them out to be.
How exactly do you propose to make an object less than one atom wide? You can't have 1/2 of an atom. You either have an atom or you don't. You can change what atoms you use, but you can't just make everything out of helium (smallest atomic radius) -- the material needs to have the required properties, including structural (rigidity, melting point, thermal conductivity) and electrical (you need both conductors and semiconductors).
The only possibility I can think of is switching to optical computing and (possibly) making a waveguide from a gap between two regions of atoms that is less than one atom wide. However, this would necessitate using shorter wavelength light and many other features of the optical computer would still be limited by atomic size (e.g. you couldn't have two parallel waveguides spaced more closely than one atom apart).
The M2 CPU and GPU performance seems like a solid if unspectacular upgrade. M1 was good enough that more speed in Air/Mini/iMac/iPad level devices is not really all that critical.
It seems like a CPU that will further tempt those still on Intel but I can't see anyone apart from enthusiasts upgrading from an M1 machine to the M2 equivalent.
In fact I think Apple missed a trick by not adding the second external display out and 16GB RAM as standard (and therefore widely available outside of expensive build to order), since those are things that might have drawn in M1 Air owners to trade up to M2.
It seems like a CPU that will further tempt those still on Intel but I can't see anyone apart from enthusiasts upgrading from an M1 machine to the M2 equivalent.
In fact I think Apple missed a trick by not adding the second external display out and 16GB RAM as standard (and therefore widely available outside of expensive build to order), since those are things that might have drawn in M1 Air owners to trade up to M2.
We bought my wife a base model Air last year, expecting that something new was coming down the pike sooner rather than later. It's been fine for her needs and she doesn't really care about having the latest & greatest, but I'm very tempted to sell hers and replace it with one of these new ones.
I think it's especially unfortunate that you apparently can't run an Air lid-closed with two displays.
Not being able to run all three at once seems OK to me, on the Air. On the not-really-Pro Pro, less so.
Seems like a nice, but ultimately unnecessary, upgrade over an M1 MacBook Air, especially if the MBA has 16GB RAM.
It's to make 30% jump when you've been stagnating for a decade.
I wonder what Intel's average year-on-year improvement is from last 10 years.
My guess is around -3.2%, if you include the Meltdown and Spectre workaround performance regressions.
It's not that the screen is 4% bigger, its 100 nits brighter. Its a much better screen.
Second, multicore performance matters as much or more than single core in most activities. The new MacBook Air is going to be snappier at everything. Its easily worth the extra.