You all have it exactly backwards. BATTERIES ARE ALREADY REPLACEABLE. You are talking about making it EASIER for consumers to replace them (by handicapping design), which would lead to MASSIVE e-waste as millions of consumers throw their batteries in the trash versus having them recycled properly as Apple does when it replaces your battery for you. Think folks!
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Leaked Documents Suggest Apple Could Be Forced to Build iPhones With User-Removable Batteries in Europe
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You all have it exactly backwards. BATTERIES ARE ALREADY REPLACEABLE. You are talking about making it EASIER for consumers to replace them (by handicapping design), which would lead to MASSIVE e-waste as millions of consumers throw their batteries in the trash versus having them recycled properly as Apple does when it replaces your battery for you. Think folks!
How is this a bad thing? All it would take is a different way to secure the battery that isn't adhesive. Other than that they're already as serviceable as computer RAM.
Wasn't the EU supposed to just be a customs and trade organisation? Why are they meddling so much in the affairs of businesses? Who decided that was their job??
While im here.. Who voted for them?
While im here.. Who voted for them?
The EU is no less 'democratic' than the UK, and neither are direct democracies in any case.
I, for one, would welcome user-replaceable batteries. I only recently retired my 4S, which was on its third battery and no longer supported. Mobile phones should not be disposable. On the other hand I think the EU overreached by specifying a USB connector. The Lightning connector is better.
Depending on the usage, the battery efficiency goes down significantly after sometime gives raise to quicker battery drain. Previously I used to get a battery every time I buy a mobile and swap it regularly so that both batteries can be used for longer periods.
Having said that, waterproofing May get impacted of OEMs are insisted to make mobiles with user replaceable battery!
But if Apple is forced to do this, it might charge $400 for each battery and might come up with some fancy naming for those $400-$500 batteries!!
Speaking of facts, can you provide any factual information that Apple specifically created the iPhone so people can replace the batteries?
Also, what about other smart phone manufacturers that don’t have replaceable batteries, are you insinuating they have the same practice where they want to ‘force’ consumers to upgrade?
The voting public in each EU country, either directly (MEP's) or indirectly (European Council).
Perhaps you could follow your own advice and point us all to your "factual source" for claiming non-replaceable batteries are a scam to ensure more frequent upgrades? Look in my signature line ... those phones are all in daily use and the 6 Plus still has 79% battery health. Everyone's mileage will vary with battery longevity, but I've yet to see any evidence that any manufacturer of mobile devices is scamming their customers.
Like many others posting here, I don't have a problem with this- less e-waste. I hope that there becomes a standard form-factor of a battery mandated for use in all handsets, and then that pushes the concept of recycling even further.
Let's face it - each statement here is wrong.
The iPhone is better because the battery is not rigid, has an irregular shape (and sometimes multiple sections), and is sealed inside the device.
Less glue would have much less impact on the environment and has no single benefit to consumers. Apple's profit greed is the only one benefiting from this.
Apple's marketing has been focused on making it seem they are 'energy' sufficient etc. With lots of reports debunking it already. Their process of 'recycling' is also quite questionable since their main focus is making non-user upgradeable devices for more profit. Especially with Tim Cook Apple has been creating more waste and damage to the environment.
Can't seem to share links but enough sites like AppleInsider debunk their claims with facts. About how green Apple really is.
Apple's marketing has been focused on making it seem they are 'energy' sufficient etc. With lots of reports debunking it already. Their process of 'recycling' is also quite questionable since their main focus is making non-user upgradeable devices for more profit. Especially with Tim Cook Apple has been creating more waste and damage to the environment.
Can't seem to share links but enough sites like AppleInsider debunk their claims with facts. About how green Apple really is.
I think this would be a good thing, anyone against it is likely a stock holder. It time some of the savings go back to the consumer, especially with phones lasting longer.
EU is way more than that (by design). You are confusing it with NAFTA or something.
This also implies the battery has to be on the wrong side of the Qi coils. Good luck with all that, Europe.
Or we like thin phones.
Or we like the ability to wirelessly charge our phone.
Or we like the increased battery capacity that comes from irregular battery shapes.
Or we like decreased weight.
Or we like increased water and dust resistance.
Or we are engineers who understand the tradeoffs.
Not to mention, do you know how much litigation is involved for something like this to actually pass? This is isn’t an ‘overnight’ process, this is a complete design change Apple would have to configure and then conform to a supplier to actually build these phones specifically for the EU. My educated guess, this is something that will take a very long time or never happen at all.
Not really, in my case I'm worried about water resistant, how are they going to handle that?
Do you want an iPhone that you can only use when the sun is shining, because that is how you get an iPhone that runs only on solar panels. I really have not had battery issues in a long time with phones.... so I am the wrong person to be bloviating. Sounds awful for the environment though, get Greta on this.
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What's wrong with that? Why not?
I wouldn't mind a thicker phone with less waterproofing if it had a removable battery. In fact buying devices with different chargers, (not just phones), is annoying as he11.
MacBook pro. Magsafe, (Or USBC).
iPhone, Lighting.
Apple watch. Wireless.
AppleTV. 230VAC IEC lead.
HomePod. Proprietary.
These are from the same manufacturer. Gets worse if you like variety. Definitely standardisation, and yes, we will be assimilated for those that want to push back.
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User replaceable batteries isn't a bad thing. What is a bad thing is who is telling the tech companies like Apple to do it. It makes about as much sense as me instructing you not to drink alcohol because its bad for you. Even if I am fundamentally correct, what right do I have to instruct you to do anything?? Its the same with the EU. They decided this was their job, it isn't. And remember, they are unelected by the people they supposedly represent.
On top of that, the UK at least were expected to pay the EU £50million A DAY for this kind of service? Anyone else might call that a dictatorship. Now how is that a good thing?
This is not a good thing. Trying to buy a battery for a user replaceable Android phone is a real lottery.
The problem is, an old battery looks exactly like a new battery and there are thousands of old phones out there.
Consequently, the market for batteries is swamped with companies selling old for new and you just have to look at a few reviews to see I am right. You might get one that's almost new, you might not.
I recently had to change the battery on my mother-in-laws' LG and after a lengthy search, settled on what seemed to be a reliable third party manufacturer. It was ok and cost €25 but I don't see the advantage really over having Apple do it for €49 and in 2 hours (and I've had three changed in under 2 hours).
The phones are waterproof and the batteries are genuine.
If they ever do decide to do this then I think Apple will just cut a deal to replace them at the same price as the average user-replaceable Android battery.
That coupled to security implications-chips on the battery, I don't see them having any real problems with this.
The problem is, an old battery looks exactly like a new battery and there are thousands of old phones out there.
Consequently, the market for batteries is swamped with companies selling old for new and you just have to look at a few reviews to see I am right. You might get one that's almost new, you might not.
I recently had to change the battery on my mother-in-laws' LG and after a lengthy search, settled on what seemed to be a reliable third party manufacturer. It was ok and cost €25 but I don't see the advantage really over having Apple do it for €49 and in 2 hours (and I've had three changed in under 2 hours).
The phones are waterproof and the batteries are genuine.
If they ever do decide to do this then I think Apple will just cut a deal to replace them at the same price as the average user-replaceable Android battery.
That coupled to security implications-chips on the battery, I don't see them having any real problems with this.
not even close. Watches have been designed to be opened even when they had no batteries. They also do not contain the electronics cellphones do.... nor the size batteries phones do.