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Leaked EU Document Could Spell Major Changes for App Store, Messages, FaceTime, Browsers, and Siri

turbineseaplane said:
Happened to me with a game a couple months ago on my iPad.

Luckily I had an IPA copy and Apple still "allowed me to install it" (gee thanks for allowing me to use my purchase still)
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It's happened to me with so many apps (much less games) on iOS. Some have just vanished from my downloads, others Apple has rendered inoperable.

I didn't rent them. I bought them. Forked over a decent chunk of change for some of them and it pisses me off that Apple gets to dictate to me that I am unable to use them.
 
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I’m living in NYC right now and prices are out of control. 300ml of hand soap, something like 8 dollars plus taxes at walgreens.

Milk, I think $4.29 plus taxes/gal

I’m fairly sure you can buy milk for 60-80 cents per liter including taxes in any European city.
 
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Sf844 said:
I’m fairly sure you can buy milk for 60-80 cents per liter including taxes in any European city.
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You can’t.

Europe is going back to its communist roots. Nearly everything there is more expensive than it is here in the US, including Apple products.
 
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Naraxus said:
It's happened to me with so many apps (much less games) on iOS. Some have just vanished from my downloads, others Apple has rendered inoperable.

I didn't rent them. I bought them. Forked over a decent chunk of change for some of them and it pisses me off that Apple gets to dictate to me that I am unable to use them.
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There is a difference when the OS will no longer support them and Apple just no longer allowing it.
Seen too many good go that route.
 
So the European Union wants DMA on Apple's iPhones?

In exchange of that, let Apple modify the European Parliament's Babel building into the Applesque look.
 
sorgo said:
You’d have to be touched in the head to support this kind of crass overreach. At the risk of sounding repetitive, go use Trashdroid if open is what you want.

How about the EU develops its own OS tailored to its own authoritarian dictates and whims rather than sticking its nose much too far into an American company’s business?
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I guess this move by EU will relegate Crapple to its rightful market share which is somewhere between its market share in MacOS and Safari Browsers. /s
 
pacalis said:
Whatever law they pass, Apple legal will find a way around it. The EU's might can't extend beyond the EU, so they can't write their way out of it without undermining the general way that importers are treated.

It's just short sighted to go after the good guys, and by good guys I mean a company that consumers are overwhelmingly happy with, when they should be going after the loosely regulated Chinese importers... a problem that is going to get much worse over time with belt and road.
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I am happy with Apple opening up its OS and AppStore to foster competition and increase interoperability. This is a good move by the EU. This will bring Apple down to its knees. Apple can no longer hold developers as hostages as they can move to other app stores. They cannot hold users as hostages as interoperability can make it easier for them to switch platforms. It will be forced to listen to its users and developers and heed their requests. How is that not a win?
 
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rr23 said:
You can’t.

Europe is going back to its communist roots. Nearly everything there is more expensive than it is here in the US, including Apple products.
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Turns out milk is no less than 50% more expensive in the US.

I already knew it, but had to check it just in case prices went bananas since last year.

And I’m using milk because it’s the quintessential product, but if you take a look at sodas, snacks and other random stuff, we’re talking about x2 to x5 in the US, depending on the reference.

Lays chips? Like x5 or more. Breakfast cereals? x3 or more, and on and on…

Also, don’t ask me how is it possible, but I’m paying over $100 per month in utilities now that I don’t use heating, that’s living in a 1br apartment and I don’t even have a TV or external display, just a laptop, phone, tablet, headphones, robovac and fridge. I think it’s almost impossible to consume less electricity than I do while living a normal life in the city. Yes, I shower daily, but it is a rather fancy and well isolated building too. I’m betting a family with 2 children would be paying $700 month or more, easily. On the other hand, a 3 br apartment in my building is $10k/month, so ?

When I go back to Europe it feels like lowering the difficulty of the game from very hard to rookie tutorial. I love the ruthlessness of this city, but that’s because I get to pause it whenever I want: I go back to Europe, lie down on the grass and listen to music.
 
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heinzdembowski said:
Bollocks. How would you like to buy a house that you can only put furniture in that the seller of the house approves of.
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It exists there, and that’s a USA thing i never understood, they rent ready-furnished apartments and houses. When i move to somewhere, i want have my own furniture.
 
Sf844 said:
Lays chips? Like x5 or more. Breakfast cereals? x3 or more, and on and on…
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Ahhhh…. You haven’t caught onto what food manufacturing companies are doing and/or paying attention.

The prices aren’t any higher, they’ve changed the marketing material from ‘party size to family size’, which translates that the largest product (Family size) they offer is the most expensive, and the smallest product they offer which might be regular or party size (Which actually used to be the normal size without the wording), is the same price as it has been, but they offer less of a product inside the bag.

Unless you’re buying the cheap garbage off-brand products, you wouldn’t notice a difference, but if you’re paying for the ‘name brand’ on a grocery item, look at the difference in terms of the weight of what they offer versus the different sizes in that product. They’re only used to be ‘one size’, now there’s multiple sizes with different price points, but less of a product in the smaller bags to push the consumer to purchase the largest/most expensive bag/box.

It’s rudimentary marketing 101.
 
Relentless Power said:
Ahhhh…. You haven’t caught onto what food manufacturing companies are doing and/or paying attention.

The prices aren’t any higher, they’ve changed the marketing material from ‘party size to family size’, which translates that the largest product (Family size) they offer is the most expensive, and the smallest product they offer which might be regular or party size (Which actually used to be the normal size without the wording), is the same price as it has been, but they offer less of a product inside the bag.

Unless you’re buying the cheap garbage off-brand products, you wouldn’t notice a difference, but if you’re paying for the ‘name brand’ on a grocery item, look at the difference in terms of the weight of what they offer versus the different sizes in that product. They’re only used to be ‘one size’, now there’s multiple sizes with different price points, but less of a product in the smaller bags to push the consumer to purchase the largest/most expensive bag/box.

It’s rudimentary marketing 101.
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Not that I care, I look at the “price per ounce” tab and sort by cheaper. So the name isn’t going to affect me…

You see, not only I studied marketing, but I take pride in being stingy. You can mix as many units, formats, currencies and taxes you want. My spreadsheets will mince it all.
 
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flashy-cat said:
And **** like this is why we left the EU ??
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You left the EU because you were fooled by Russian manipulations. It was their intention to break up UK from the EU, now look at your country, many companies leaving, unemployment raising.

I have a few UK friends, they are all pissed off at Brexit, and for one I recently had to play the middle-man to order 3D printer parts because it’s not being sold in the UK anymore due to the brexit, and that’s just one example.
 
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Wildkraut said:
You left the EU because you were fooled by Russian manipulations. It was their intention to break up UK from the EU, now look at your country, many companies leaving, unemployment raising.

I have a few UK friends, they are all pissed off at Brexit, and for one I recently had to play the middle-man to order 3D printer parts because it’s not being sold in the UK anymore due to the brexit, and that’s just one example.
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The UK wasn’t going to abandon the Pound, accept further integration, common debt or military, a federal union, so there was no point, really.

Both the EU and the UK are better as separate entities. The EU is an ongoing federal project and the UK is the opposite case: an exceptionalist country.

Even though the cause may have been what you mention, the outcome was a matter of time.

At the end of the day the UK isn’t going to lose much if at all and the EU is going to advance much more unobstructed.
 
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Beautyspin said:
[Siphisticatednut: "thats becasue the is nothing for the EUCJ to interpret or challenge it on. only a parlamentary action can remove the law"

Exactly.
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Again, no. I think you're both misunderstanding how law making in the EU works or the limits placed on it. The EU is not like a national parliament that has far-reaching powers to legislate every aspect of human life. There is a constitutional framework to challenge its legislative acts under and this is set out by the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty on Functioning of the European Union. Before it can legislate it needs to demonstrate that it has a legal basis in the treaties to do so and it cannot exceed the objectives set out in TEU/TFEU in doing so.

The DSA identifies Article 114 TFEU as its basis, which is for the harmonisation of national regulation to ensure functioning of the internal market. Again, what is permissible under Article 114 TFEU is not unlimited. These guys seem to think the DSA may be vulnerable to judicial review: https://antitrustlair.files.wordpre...nder-article-114-tfeu-and-how-to-fix-it-3.pdf

Personally I have no idea. Being able to challenge a law and being able to do so successfully in court are two very separate things. I'd have thought that very clever lawyers with more knowledge in EU law have thought about this very hard.
 
Wildkraut said:
You left the EU because you were fooled by Russian manipulations. It was their intention to break up UK from the EU, now look at your country, many companies leaving, unemployment raising.

I have a few UK friends, they are all pissed off at Brexit, and for one I recently had to play the middle-man to order 3D printer parts because it’s not being sold in the UK anymore due to the brexit, and that’s just one example.
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Absolute nonsense. It's not the UK that is being manipulated by Russia.

Perhaps your attention would be better aimed at stopping the EU from continued financing of the war in Ukraine by being so dependent on Russian energy. You may have a little Ukrainian flag in your profile, but I have a Ukrainian wife and we know the price Germany's actions.
 
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djphat2000 said:
Pretty broad coverage. No deductible but copays from$45 to $125. I paid $250 for an emergency room plus ambulance with my coverage. No insurance would have been $5000. A lot depends on your insurance provider.
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Wow very good. You haven’t even touched education and sanitation. Low taxes, incredible salaries, cheap everything, low household dept, capitol invasions … You guys are the best, experts in what other countries should … Gl.

PS: I think taxation in the EU countries is a tad excessive, I agree with that.

Just this little thread here shows how fuped the planet is at the moment. Never once I came here to tell the US how rule their internal affairs. Just talked about Apple. But it seams that a Phone is enough for …
 
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