Leaked Image Shows Three Models in Samsung Galaxy S10 Line-up

[Ramchi]

What Samsung does do not usually translate to wide adoption.
Heart rate sensor on the phone? Iris scanner? Even the Chinese laughed at those Samsung features. Meanwhile, Samsung is now copying the “notch” (having it not in the middle doesn’t mean innovation). And many Chinese phones already have in display fingerprint scanner.

Samsung is just a follower now, to the point that they start ODM-ing phones, ie having a Chinese company make the phones and put Samsung brand on it. Samsung even does a complete lineup to copy Chinese phones, the Galaxy M series, complete with tear drop notch copied from the Chinese phones.

Google Android development closely work with Samsung hardware implementation. Samsung get to implement many of the future Android feature in their flagships first with their UI overlay. So, what other OEMs adopts later all basically Samsung-Google collaboration. That's the reason most of the Samsung flagships do not require OS upgrades since their Overlay pretty much implements most of the good stuffs in the new Android version.

Samsung curved screen gets adopted, punch-hole screen is not Notch but it has its own drawback. Industry leading AMOLED display pioneered by none other than Samsung. Their UFS is being adopted by flagships from other OEMs, their indisplay finger print reader uses different tech than most of the Chinese OEMs using it. Their Samsung Pay is a real neat, innovative NFC payment solution than Apple Pay.

 

[0388631]

Android as a whole has gotten better. The biggest problem is the lack of software updates. The standard $1,000 Android phone in the US still does not have the latest Android Pie due to restrictions from mobile carriers. You should never let a mobile carrier tell you when to upgrade your software. Ever.

Google needs to take the Apple approach at this point.
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If you're familiar with other smartphones like Samsung Galaxy their fingerprint scanner is on the back. If you look closely that scanner is no longer there, either they completely switched to face scanner only or added in-display fingerprint scanner. If Samsung adopted the in-display fingerprint scanner it's going to be a big deal just like Apple adopted NFC. Just to show if a famous brand like Apple and Samsung make some feature standard it's going to be widely adopted even Apple might follow.

I very much doubt a face-scan system. If you recall the rumors from last week, the cutout is for a single camera and the earpiece is streamlined somewhere else. Whereas the X or whatever has it, has an integrated unit in the notch sitting aside the camera.

I suspect integrated finger scan on the front, under the glass.

 

[LordVic]

Google needs to take the Apple approach at this point.

IIRC, Google themselves have.

Google variants, such as Samsung, have not.

And I honestly don't see a method in which Google can enforce that on 3rd party android providers. They all change the code, they change functionality, and they all have their own power to distribute updates seperately (since you don't wnt to receive code for your device that's intended for a different one).

Unfortunately though, the Pixel line IMHO has been a disappointment.

 

[Jimmy James]

Apple has three. We must have three.

I’ll leave this here.

 

[bladerunner2000]

What's a file browser?

LMAO!

 

[DNichter]

Oh, but mate, it's all about curved edges! Whoever thought curved edges were a brilliant idea needs to be dragged out back and hit across the head with a bat. Pain in the butt with the blur and having to be careful even with a decent slim case. Just make the rear a screen and be done with it.

Curved phone screen edges, like curved TV's, are completely useless. Honestly, just remove the notch from the current iPhone and you have the perfect design for the next 10 years. We don't need radical design changes for phones any longer.
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It's an App that you use to manage your files, like downloads, pictures, movies, just like a real computer.

Ah, okay. I have a few of those on my iPhone's and iPad's.

 

[1050792]

Curved phone screen edges, like curved TV's, are completely useless. Honestly, just remove the notch from the current iPhone and you have the perfect design for the next 10 years. We don't need radical design changes for phones any longer.
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Ah, okay. I have a few of those on my iPhone's and iPad's.

It's a pity you can't do much with the ones in iOS, since there's no official SD Card support and also limiting the content you can save on your phone.

 

[0388631]

IIRC, Google themselves have.

Google variants, such as Samsung, have not.

And I honestly don't see a method in which Google can enforce that on 3rd party android providers. They all change the code, they change functionality, and they all have their own power to distribute updates seperately (since you don't wnt to receive code for your device that's intended for a different one).

Unfortunately though, the Pixel line IMHO has been a disappointment.

I think you're missing the point I'm making. Google now has the ability to pressure carriers to rapidly send out or even do it OTA. OEMs sort the new OS version out fairly quickly, it can take carries months, sometimes almost a year to "test" it before releasing it on a rolling basis. I got an update once roughly 4 months after my carrier, Verizon, sent out a rolling update months earlier.

Pixel gets rapid updates, Google One gets semi-rapid updates depending on device, and then there's OEMs. One other problem is that Qualcomm drops driver support for their SoCs after a couple years because there's no "demand" from OEMs who use their products, which is probably false. Major Android releases need new driver sets for the SoC.


Pixel 3's night photo mode is interesting. The rest of the phone seems boring.
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Curved phone screen edges, like curved TV's, are completely useless. Honestly, just remove the notch from the current iPhone and you have the perfect design for the next 10 years. We don't need radical design changes for phones any longer.

Sometimes when I head to a computer hardware store I have a chuckle whenever I see someone buying a curved LG or Samsung display. Silly fad.

 

[bladerunner2000]

Then why are you here? .... from another Atheist/Skeptic
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Then why are you here?!?
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Some of us don't ONLY use iOS. You know, Apple does make more than one type of product. LOL

 

[DNichter]

It's a pity you can't do much with the ones in iOS, since there's no official SD Card support and also limiting the content you can save on your phone.

I manage all my work files, personal files on my server, and files in the cloud, without issue. Maybe it's some sort of user error? I do everything wireless so I can't speak to the sc card support, but there is a hub that works for my iPad Pro that has an sd card slot. I am assuming it's not a problem.

 

[0388631]

Also, if these come out at Apple prices, I wonder what will be said. There were rumors a while back the highest end S10 that will be available will fetch a cool $1,400 that gives you 5G and 800 GB or 1 TB of flash memory, plus 12 GB of RAM, IIRC.

 

[Skeptical.me]

Some of us don't ONLY use iOS. You know, Apple does make more than one type of product. LOL

Fair point.

 

[SmugMaverick]

Curved phone screen edges, like curved TV's, are completely useless. Honestly, just remove the notch from the current iPhone and you have the perfect design for the next 10 years. We don't need radical design changes for phones any longer.
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Ah, okay. I have a few of those on my iPhone's and iPad's.

No you really don't.

 

[0388631]

I manage all my work files, personal files on my server, and files in the cloud, without issue. Maybe it's some sort of user error? I do everything wireless so I can't speak to the sc card support, but there is a hub that works for my iPad Pro that has an sd card slot. I am assuming it's not a problem.

I often read your posts and all I'll say is you're not the typical Apple customer.

 

[Skeptical.me]

Apple has three. We must have three.

I’ll leave this here.

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And this is exactly why I have avoided purchasing an Android device. Although, I've considered Lineage OS.

 

[LordVic]

I think you're missing the point I'm making. Google now has the ability to pressure carriers to rapidly send out or even do it OTA. OEMs sort the new OS version out fairly quickly, it can take carries months, sometimes almost a year to "test" it before releasing it on a rolling basis. I got an update once roughly 4 months after my carrier, Verizon, sent out a rolling update months earlier.

Pixel gets rapid updates, Google One gets semi-rapid updates depending on device, and then there's OEMs. One other problem is that Qualcomm drops driver support for their SoCs after a couple years because there's no "demand" from OEMs who use their products, which is probably false. Major Android releases need new driver sets for the SoC.


Pixel 3's night photo mode is interesting. The rest of the phone seems boring.
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Sometimes when I head to a computer hardware store I have a chuckle whenever I see someone buying a curved LG or Samsung display. Silly fad.

Allowing the carriers to be involved in software roll-outs is one of the biggest mistakes that phone makers allowed. and it dates back to prior to Android's existence. it sucks, but back in the day, Carriers wouldn't even sell your device if they didn't have control over the software.

 

[1050792]

I manage all my work files, personal files on my server, and files in the cloud, without issue. Maybe it's some sort of user error? I do everything wireless so I can't speak to the sc card support, but there is a hub that works for my iPad Pro that has an sd card slot. I am assuming it's not a problem.

It's not user error, it's user choice. I don't like to use Cloud services so a true file system with SD Card support is very important to me.

 

[LordVic]

I often read your posts and all I'll say is you're not the typical Apple customer.

Actually, DNichter is the epitome of the typical Apple customer that Apple wants. A user who is perfectly willing to change their workflow to fit within the walls that Apple sets instead of the opposite.

where most users have their own defined "this is the way I do things". That is where we often run into onflicts with Apple's methods. We want to do things our way because more often than not we've chosen those workflows due to our own individual strengths/weaknesses.

For many of us who have problems with several of Apple's closed wall approaches, this gives us headaches. But someone like DNichter, or Abizagal (sp?) are the types of user Apple loves. They will change their very workflows, if not job expectations to work inside Apple's defined system. Thats why if you read their posts they have a hard time understanding wher we (the rest of us we) come from.

There's nothing wrong with that, especially if they can at least recognise that their situation is not the same as everyone elses. Something DNicther does well (he's always seemed fairly willing to listen to our viewpoints).

 

[0388631]

Allowing the carriers to be involved in software roll-outs is one of the biggest mistakes that phone makers allowed. and it dates back to prior to Android's existence. it sucks, but back in the day, Carriers wouldn't even sell your device if they didn't have control over the software.

Yeah, the problem was no one knew how Android would fare. They do now and I'm sure Google and the OEMs can push their way around. It won't drive people toward Apple.

 

[LordVic]

Yeah, the problem was no one knew how Android would fare. They do now and I'm sure Google and the OEMs can push their way around. It won't drive people toward Apple.

Google can, hence why the Pixels' avoid the carriers for software. Same with Apple.

But Samsung, along with many others just don't seem to care to have that fight. Samsung appears perfectly content with letting the carriers doe what they want...

As a Samsung phone user currently, I wish that would change. The Canadian Carriers are even worse than the US ones for rolling out software updates. Bell Canada is notorious for taking 6+ months longer than anyone else to roll out updates.

The only reason I went S9 this season was because it cost me $240 total.

 

[0388631]

Actually, DNichter is the epitome of the typical Apple customer that Apple wants. A user who is perfectly willing to change their workflow to fit within the walls that Apple sets instead of the opposite.

where most users have their own defined "this is the way I do things". That is where we often run into onflicts with Apple's methods. We want to do things our way because more often than not we've chosen those workflows due to our own individual strengths/weaknesses.

For many of us who have problems with several of Apple's closed wall approaches, this gives us headaches. But someone like DNichter, or Abizagal (sp?) are the types of user Apple loves. They will change their very workflows, if not job expectations to work inside Apple's defined system. Thats why if you read their posts they have a hard time understanding wher we (the rest of us we) come from.

There's nothing wrong with that, especially if they can at least recognise that their situation is not the same as everyone elses. Something DNicther does well (he's always seemed fairly willing to listen to our viewpoints).

When I conduct work on my S9 I upload to the cloud and send emails using a third party client, working outside the confines of Android. I've done the same with iPads in the past. When a mobile OS limits what you can do natively, you must find a creative solution to get to your goal. I see nothing wrong with what Dnichter is doing nor would I complain, even if he's something grating when he espouses his opinions for all to read.

At the end of the day, Apple hasn't included simple functions that would shut up critics who've had to find other methods to get their work done.


Whether I'm using my MBP, an iPad or my Android phones (yes, plural), I always tailor my own solution to common problems.
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Google can, hence why the Pixels' avoid the carriers for software. Same with Apple.

But Samsung, along with many others just don't seem to care to have that fight. Samsung appears perfectly content with letting the carriers doe what they want...

As a Samsung phone user currently, I wish that would change. The Canadian Carriers are even worse than the US ones for rolling out software updates. Bell Canada is notorious for taking 6+ months longer than anyone else to roll out updates.

The only reason I went S9 this season was because it cost me $240 total.

Oh, I'm sure Samsung can. Samsung seems to be the major seller for most carriers. I only know of Bell's antics through articles. Verizon which is generally a good carrier in terms of cell signal and clarity, takes ages to push out updates. And, as I said, it also has to do with QC and their antics.

 

[LordVic]

When I conduct work on my S9 I upload to the cloud and send emails using a third party client, working outside the confines of Android. I've done the same with iPads in the past. When a mobile OS limits what you can do natively, you must find a creative solution to get to your goal. I see nothing wrong with what Dnichter is doing nor would I complain, even if he's something grating when he espouses his opinions for all to read.

At the end of the day, Apple hasn't included simple functions that would shut up critics who've had to find other methods to get their work done.

we keep agreeing

but yeah, i'm the same. ti's the reason i'm on Android now. At the end of the day, everytime I've been on an iphone, the limitations Apple imposes have stimied my capabilities to do what I want how I want.

is that fine for a lot of people? Sure. But i'm picky. I WANT to be able to define custom defaults. run programs that don't brute force close after 2 minutes of background. Run Tasker for custom IFTT rules and notifications. Receive a ZIP file in an email. open it, read the logs inside, cut and paste into another set of documents, zip it up and send it to vendor while i'm on the go (cause when you're on call, they don't care if you have a computer handy)

the hing is, Apple's hardware is amazing. I love it. but their software keeps letting me down . and not cause it's "poorly programmed"... but because Apple has intentionally limited the capabilities.

 

[0388631]

we keep agreeing

but yeah, i'm the same. ti's the reason i'm on Android now. At the end of the day, everytime I've been on an iphone, the limitations Apple imposes have stimied my capabilities to do what I want how I want.

is that fine for a lot of people? Sure. But i'm picky. I WANT to be able to define custom defaults. run programs that don't brute force close after 2 minutes of background. Run Tasker for custom IFTT rules and notifications. Receive a ZIP file in an email. open it, read the logs inside, cut and paste into another set of documents, zip it up and send it to vendor while i'm on the go (cause when you're on call, they don't care if you have a computer handy)

the hing is, Apple's hardware is amazing. I love it. but their software keeps letting me down . and not cause it's "poorly programmed"... but because Apple has intentionally limited the capabilities.

There's ways to bypass some Apple limitations. I find it funny because I had an iPad when they first came out and I was annoyed by those limitations. File browser in Android is a godsend for anything where you can't bother to dick around finding a bypass method on iOS.

 

[SpectatorHere]

I have not used Android in a few years, has it gotten better? I wonder how these phones would do running iOS (if it were possible of course)

As someone who has just migrated over, there are pluses and minuses to Android. Now, keep in mind I'm using 8.1, not the latest and greatest Android Pie, but for me the biggest advantage Android has are it's back and app switcher buttons. It is so convenient to have a consistent UI or hardware button to simple go to the previous screen. iOS almost always has this same function, but there is no specific or consistent place for apps to place it on the screen. And, when it's not there, it's a real pain. The app switcher button is just worlds better than iOS's swipe up or double tap. I'm now using swipe up on my iPad, and there at least, it's far too hit and miss to pull it up.

On the negative side, it takes forever to tweak Android to get the functionality you natively have in iOS, and iMessage is still light years ahead of any Andriod messaging, imo.

 

[DNichter]

It's not user error, it's user choice. I don't like to use Cloud services so a true file system with SD Card support is very important to me.

Oh okay, well iOS has both if you ever decide to go that route.
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I often read your posts and all I'll say is you're not the typical Apple customer.

How so?
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No you really don't.

I do, I use the Files app to access my personal files, files accessed via my server, and Documents for any cloud services I hook into. It's not all that complicated.