Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
If they're using the 5S internals, why not just buy a 5S now if you're waiting on this? They're both 4 inch phones but one uses quality materials like aluminum. So silly.

Because this '6c' will be $100 cheaper than what the 5s costs today.
 
The 5c got the iPhone 5 internals. Why wouldn't the 6c get the 6 internals?
The 5c didn't get the 5s internals when the 6 was released. If Apple wanted the 'c' to be a plastic-clad version of the previous year's model, that's what they would have done last September. Plans change, maybe they originally planned to do the former but lower sales caused them to push the 'c' version into the -2 gen bracket.
 
The 5c didn't get the 5s internals when the 6 was released. If Apple wanted the 'c' to be a plastic-clad version of the previous year's model, that's what they would have done last September. Plans change, maybe they originally planned to do the former but lower sales caused them to push the 'c' version into the -2 gen bracket.

The poster said 5, not 5s, and he was more or less correct.
 
Which is, of course, the MOST important thing about a phone :rolleyes:

It is when you want to entice people to not buy it and spend the extra money on the actual main model, while still shutting up the folks who complain about the high entry prices for iPhones.
 
Interesting idea that the 6C will replace the 5S.

In 2013, the 5C replaced the 5 which was - on the day of the announcement - the newest iPhone, not last year's model.
 
I see all this as part of a troubling trend toward many SKUs.

One of the things Apple was famous for was its focus on few products that just really worked well for many people.

Now we might have 3 phone sizes, 2 or more Apple TVs (rumors are that a new model will come out alongside the existing), 3 watches, 3 MacBook line ups (the new one, the air, and the pro), 3 iMac line ups (21, 27, and retina).

Oh and lets not forget, iPad Mini, iPad regular, and now iPad Pro.

Shopping for Apple stuff is getting more complicated as they introduce new types of products AND multiple variations in existing product lines.

Was Gil Amelio secretly re-hired?
 
If they're using the 5S internals, why not just buy a 5S now if you're waiting on this? They're both 4 inch phones but one uses quality materials like aluminum. So silly.

if aluminum is such a quality material, then why are the haters slamming the apple watch sport, saying its "cheap" aluminum and how unfair it is they have to pay more for the stainless steel? if plastic is not a quality material, then how come so many thought the iPhone 3G and 3GS were quality phones of great build quality?

its all relative. apple products are generally high quality, regardless of casing material of choice.
 
The poster said 5, not 5s, and he was more or less correct.
The fricking point is that while the 5c was the -1 gen phone when it was introduced, that step was not repeated the next year.

Either Apple wants the -1 gen phone to be plastic every two years to give it a greater differentiation when there is no case change for their newest phone. In that case, the 5s would live on. Or they want the -2 gen phone to be plastic but didn't want to debut their new case design with a -2 gen phone. Take your pick.

But they certainly didn't follow the pattern of the plastic case being the -1 gen phone.
 
I thought maybe you'd read something or seen some rumours. Didn't realise your statement was purely your opinion.

It's the only thing that makes sense. If you look at the opening in the supposed 6C case, it's exactly the same as the 5C.

Call it an educated guess.
 
Way to screw over the people who want a 4 inch iphone. Stupid tim cook! FIRE HIM ALREADY!
 
I thought the 5c was generally considered a failure? Well, in Apple's terms...they still sold millions.
 
I thought the 5c was generally considered a failure? Well, in Apple's terms...they still sold millions.

That's the key.

In the media, if it's not the highest selling device ever, it's a flop...ignoring the fact that it still outsold almost every other competitors flagship devices.
 
If this is the only 4" iPhone i can get at the end of the year, I'll still buy as long as the camera is OK.
I'm a bit over the 6's size, though the camera is good.
 
I will focus on a fake as it looks with just a few 5c improvement.

Iphone Iphone 6 6C look more so for this:

iPhone-6c-Concept-1-800x480.jpg


++
 
Nope. It makes sense for Apple to use the A8 (iPhone 6 internals).

Here's why:

  • The 5c had a 2-year lifecycle. Apple are probably planning the same for this model, so it makes sense to give it a chip that won't be utterly obsolete in 2 years time.

  • The screen size is already a huge differentiator between the "c" models and the premium models. Even if the A9 turns out to only be a modest improvement over the A8, many users will be happy to pay more for a premium model because of the screen size.

  • By the time the 6c rolls out, there is unlikely to be much difference in cost between producing A7 vs A8 chips. It might actually be cheaper to produce A8 chips due to the smaller die size, and economies of scale. (New Apple TV will likely use A8?)

  • The A8 is more power efficient, so the 6c will have better battery life for a given battery size if it uses it.

  • The 5c got the iPhone 5 internals. Why wouldn't the 6c get the 6 internals?


Nope, I can see Apple using the 5S internals easily over the 6.

1. They already have the 4in Architecture down pat with the 5S they just need to add in the NFC chip for Apple pay. Doing this will save them money and increase margins big time because the phone still will be highly priced.

2. Redesigning the 6 to fit in a 4in chassis is not cost effective at this point. Again, it's all about the money.
 
If this is the only 4" iPhone i can get at the end of the year, I'll still buy as long as the camera is OK.
I'm a bit over the 6's size, though the camera is good.

Why not just get a 5s? It looks WAY better and probably cheaper too. Same internals.
 
Uh...how have you been screwed over?

Who promised you a cutting edge 4" phone?

It's more like Apple screwing themselves over. Right now, no one is making a flagship 4" phone, and there's a market for it. Apple could lead in that, could corner that market, but instead they are following the Android makers. The differentiation right now in the watch market is that on Android, you can get a bunch of different looks/options, and with Apple, you can get one watch in different materials/colors. They're doing the same thing with the phones - lots of options on Android, few options with Apple. If they were still stellar in build and software, they could rock on like that, but they're starting to slip there too. They are becoming the company that simply offers less.
 
bring back the 4"

If one holds the iPhone 6 behind a 5s, you can see that the new (bigger) screen would fit, theoretically, inside the case size of the 5s, meaning one could get a phone with the case size of the 5/5s/5c and screen size of the 6...that would be awesome.

However, I know virtually nothing about how to re-design the internals of the case to make this happen, but would can dream.

That said, I will definitely "upgrade" my iPhone 6 to the 6c to get back to a case size that fits my hand.

Anyone want to make a bid on my Gold iPhone 6 with 128 GB?
 
I thought the 5c was generally considered a failure? Well, in Apple's terms...they still sold millions.

The "failure" part was about initially failing to sell as many 5C units as Apple had predicted.

As Tim Cook pointed out in the 14FQ1 earnings call, Apple got the initial mix of manufacturing wrong, and and thus initial sales of the higher priced 5S suffered due to Foxconn making too many 5C instead of 5S models.

"And so the mix was stronger to the 5S, and it took us some amount of time in order to build the mix that customers were demanding.

"And as a result, we lost some sales of units for part of the quarter in North America and relative to the world, it took us the bulk of the quarter, almost all the quarter, to get the iPhone 5S into proper supply."

- Tim Cook Q1 2014 call

Because 5C sales did not meet Apple's own expectations, some bloggers used the clickbait word "failure" (or "flop"), and this stuck in people's minds.

However, the other way to look at it was that 5S demand was higher than expected, so bloggers could've used a headline like "5S demand overwhelming 5C sales". But we all know negative headlines get more clicks.

Either way, the sales mix pointed out that people were willing to pay extra to get the latest model, instead of the older model wrapped up in a new plastic shell.

So if anything, "failure" should refer just to Apple's sales mixture prediction. They goofed. They admitted it. No doubt they learned from it.
 
If the 6c is basically a 6 with a plastic shell, I don't see it selling very well...

But if it's actually better, in some incredible way, I might be tempted to upgrade. I wonder if there will be a 6c+ or 6+c in plastic...

If it is the 6 in a plastic shell with a 4" screen then I will definitely be getting one. Hopefully they don't cripple it to be less powerful than the 6, I know it would be dreaming way too much to hope for it to be a 4" 6S.
 
You mean like the 5c being the same cost as the 5? Except that it wasn't.

no...like the 6c being the same cost as the 5s

The 6c is coming out a year later (along side the iPhone6S instead of the iPhone6) so the cost should even with the 2 year old 5s.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.