I'll use what I want, thanks. You have no clue how many have been affected. Period.
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No. Stop trying.
All he said was this hasn't happened to him, and for the people it did happen to, they are doing something wrong. And I agree with that statement.
I don't see did a blunt comment, "it hasn't happened to me, so this never happened to anyone else."
Just stop.
we do agree on some points just not what bendgate was about.
It was about the iPhone being weaker than most phones with comparable thinness which was not the case.
And neither do you, but we can approximate the number of affected phones based on the number of complaints vs number of phones sold.
if this where a real issue it would be obvious that the percentage would be somewhere around 20% which obviously wasnt the case.
You my friend are actually wrong about that. Bendgate exists and I just experienced it. I am glad they are making the S version stronger. Oh, you ask about how my iPhone 6 Plus bent. Here is what happened. Nothing. I went into the Apple Retail store the other day, I had an appointment with the Genius Bar because after about 7 months of having the phone some bright white spots all of a sudden showed up on my phone. That's right dead pixels. Went to the store and the Genius said it was a problem and took it in back to check it out. He said most likely they would send it out to replace screen. A few minutes later he came back and said that he couldn't replace the screen and would have to give me a replacement because the body was also bent a few millimeters, which was just enough so they couldn't replace the screen. I was covered under regular warranty, so it didn't cost me anything to replace. I asked him how this is possible? Since I got the phone, I had a screen protector and a Speck case on it. And for good measure I put the phone with the Speck case on it in a leather case, so it was double protected. I don't wear skinny jeans and I always put it in my front pocket. I said the only thing I did is take off the Speck case once a month to clean the phone. So, he then says it looks like taking the case on and off caused it to bend. The Speck cases are a little tight for the iPhone 6 Plus, but I was always careful taking it off. Anyway, that is the only way it could of bent. He told me to either, never take the case off or find a new case that is looser. I bet anyone that has a case that is a tight fit and takes it on and off, most likely there phone has bent enough to be a problem if the screen needs to be replaced. By looking at it, you wouldn't even know it was bent. So the moral of this story is don't make an assumption that bendgate never existed. I didn't believe in bendgate until it happen to me, without even knowing about it.
Quite literally what I must have 'done wrong' was bend over to tie my shoes with my phone in my front pocket. What a fool I must be. Let's be real, if a phone bends under those circumstances, there IS something wrong, but not with what I'm doing.
I'm an engineer. started it mechanical/materials (1980s), switched to electrical/computer/systems engineering in (1990) then software/architecture (1998) and now defining a product'/business' tech architecture.
Never had those issues you rant about and because of my position, I know at least 100 Iphone 6 users.
Do you want to call me, and others like me a liar? Seems that would be the logical extension of your rant.
Bending never was, and still isn't a significant issues. My glorious anecdote (because they're so pertinent in general... (sic)) and tech and business reporting since then (a bit more pertinent) and Apple's own filings (very pertinent), seemingly bears this out. Meaning you don'T have hundreds of thousands out of 200M with the problem (even at that unproven high level, this would only be a problem that hits 0.1% of all Iphone 6).
Doesn't mean bending never happened (if you sell 200M phones, just about everything may have happened...) or that your specific phone isn't a lemon. I'm going to give you that one, and nothing else because here, your own personal experience trumps mine.
Doesn't mean they can't make it tougher, or more rugged. Why not if its a differentiation point. Its even possible they wanted to switch to 7000 aluminum for several years; the watch project was then a good way to get the process right. They wouldn't want to have production issues in a product requiring huge volumes like the Iphone.
A switch like that is not something you would spring in a few months (considering how much harder it is to machine the new aluminium vs the new one), which makes the current possible switch more a long term project than a knee jerk reaction to a non event that some purports it to be.
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My rant? Hello....
Well done missing the point of my discussion with the other poster, we were discussing if a change in the screw placements can have an impact from an engineering point of view in making the device stronger!!! And as an engineer, as you claim to be, you completely ignored the whole point of the debate.
What's with the personal bs about calling you and others a liar? Irrelevant, and I never did.
You do not need a engineer to work out that a device like the iPhone 6 + will Bend with enough force.....does not mean you cannot IMPROVE its structural strength .... Does it?? Hence the debate we were having... Screw placement! Not weather bendgate was real or not!
My phone has a slight bend, I really do not care, as I use it without a case, and if I bend it , my fault! My issue if the freezing !! Did you miss that in my rant.
So...... Mr engineer, thanks for missing the point of the debate I was having with rogifan, can the placement of the screws as show in the pictures have an effect on the strength of the iPhone?
Surprised you joined in, stating your and engineer and ignored the most important point we have been debating, SCREW PLACEMENT
Can you help out or do we need someone who is a current engineer who can follow a thread ?
Now u have your rant
....It was a real issue. Just sad how you keep trying to downplay it.
There is nothing to down play.
Looking at your posting history shows you have a constant pattern of ignoring the facts on this topic. Enjoy your phone and we can agree to disagree.
My posting history? That's cute considering I haven't really commented on this topic until a few posts ago when you started downplaying it like it isn't a real problem.
I disagree. The point I was trying to make is that it can happen to anyone and not by only mistreating their phone. He is saying the only way is by mistreatment and using his own personal experience to back that up. Hence, it didn't happen to me so it didn't happen to anyone. Get it now? It may require a little more thought processing but I think I made my point clear enough.
Actually the person fired was Mark Papermaster the SVP Steve chose to run hardware engineering for iOS devices. I believe he was originally recommended by Bob Mansfield (who also recommended Kevin Lynch from Adobe to run Watch software).
That's my dilemma, too. My husband wants to sell my iPhone but I insist that we simply turn it into AT&T for their Next program. Mine is 128GB, too. And yes, it's gone downhill since I got it but it never really was all that great. My husband's experience is the opposite of yours and mine. He claims to have no problems and he thinks it's the best iPhone he's ever had. I'm willing to concede I got a lemon. But it appears physically flawless. He and I are mystified.
My sister-in-law is more blunt. She just says her 6Plus is possessed!
My concern is whether they addressed the crescent shift in the front camera. That spacer has moved on two screens for me (iPhone 6 128) and I'm considering bringing it in for a 3rd -- though I think it will be in vain. Hopefully they remedy this in the next model.
??? My answer was light hearted and sarcy as well! That always seems difficult to come across in texts.
Then why not make the apple logo the window for all these antennas? Or at least make a small window like on the iPod touch, no need for all these horizontal lines I'm sure they can do a lot better than that...
It is highly unlikely the phone will bend like it has done in the photos and videos shown around on the internet unless the phone is being mistreated. Also I do not have the mindset of "if it didn't happen to me, it didn't happen to anyone". I was not saying the issue doesnt exist, it does happen, but only for those who mistreat their phones.
The videos and photos you seen online of people bending the phone is unrealistic. You can see how much force they have to put behind the phone to make it bend. If I push as hard as I possibly can I will bend and break every single phone on the market today. I cannot see this much force being exerted on the phone in day to day situations such as those I mentioned in my original post. On top of that I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the stories of bending phones were deliberately made up so they could stick their hands up and say oh look mine bent too just to get a bit of attention.
The first post regarding this issue on MacRumours was a guy mentioning he had it in his front pocket on a long drive and for a few hours sitting down at a wedding. If the phone was to bend as much as it did he would have felt that pressure on the phone in his front pocket. Why didn't he just take it out of his pocket. If I sit down and I feel my phone digging into me or I feel my jeans being too tight and putting pressure on the phone I either take it out, or I move it to a position where its not. Its common sense.