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Leaked iPod Touch with Camera Photos Were Real

Enginerring process

I don't know if you know... but the engineering design process is composed of multiple prototypes & multiple decision loop... that both are controled by technological, financial & marketing decisions...

So... if we forgot all case leak... maybe that all the rumors were based of only one of the many built prototypes...

One chance that the prototype leaked was not the one with GPS, Camera & OLED screen ! imagine all the hype ! lol !

I am still convinced that the ipod will stay a basic ipod to not canibalize the future full featured tablet !

Note : What is in a prototype is rarely in the final version... if it was the case... plane would not fly & building would not stand up !
 
Clear again that the slimmer autofocus cameras did not come out of manufacturing correctly and the feature had to be scrapped.
 
zap2 said:
I believe it...Job's reasoning on why the iPod touch doesn't have a camera(lower price to make it a great game machine) is quite believable...for the 8GB model. For the 32GB and 64GB model, not so much
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Come on... how much extra does the video-only camera module cost? $1? $5? or a better camera for $10? Drill a hole on the casing, 1c?

Paying an extra $5 just because they're apple, so $10-15 extra for a camera feature isn't that bad.


shadow1 said:
Is it possible to insert a camera of your own into the 3rd Generation ipod touch. There would be solution in waiting for the 4th gen one next year
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so how are you going to get a camera app? port it from the iPhone?
 
you have to be a fool to think they won't put a camera in the touch. Not now but later. I predict before summer 10' we'll see them. It is cheaper to build the nano with cameras than the touch so they'll wait until the video nanos get going then spring the video touches on us. It is a marketing strategy. The consumer buys one model, the nano then a few months down the road they get the higher end player with a camera. Seems reasonable to me.
 
jaw04005 said:
I don't understand Apple's reasoning for not just making the iPod touch an iPhone (same dimensions, shell, electronics, etc) without the cell circuitry.

Seems like a waste of engineering effort to maintain two separate internals, but what do I know.

I guess it all comes down to costs, but the iPhone has to have at least a 60-65 percent mark-up price unsubsidized.
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What I'm thinking may happen down the line is that the iPod touch is discontinued in favor of contract-free iPhones.
 
wackymacky said:
Yes, but he could have just said that currently the camera chips that would need to be incorporated are not up to Apples standard, so they have decided to wait, rather that all that crap that the touch is some sort of optimal gaming machine.
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No offense but it sounds like you know nothing about marketing.
 
To MacRumors:

Okay, we get it. Apple was planning a camera in the iPod Touch. Three front-page stories later with people going over footage and pictures like it was the Zapruder film.

We get it.
 
Cask said:
Something I had noticed is that this leaked images showed a small hole next to the lens. I believe the iPod nano also has this small whole next to the lens, which means it is the same camera module or a very similar one.
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What you're describing is a microphone.
 
wackymacky said:
Yes, but he could have just said that currently the camera chips that would need to be incorporated are not up to Apples standard, so they have decided to wait, rather that all that crap that the touch is some sort of optimal gaming machine.
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Are you serious? No company can go live and release a new product and start off by saying 'Well we designed it to have a camera in it, but you know there were problems so we pulled the camera, and decided to release it anyway. So there you are, if you could all step forward and buy a product which we couldn't get right and couldn't get ready in time for release, we'd be grateful. I'm sure you won't mind that it lacks the feature we designed to fit in it.'

I realise that this must have been a huge embarrassment internally for Apple - there's no way they would want to be seen to fail in a technical issue like this. But it's a consequence of having a preplanned fixed date (i.e the annual iPod event) to release products rather than just putting them out when they are technically finished and ready.
 
KnightWRX said:
You can already get contract free iPhones. At least here. It's 799$ for the 32GB model...
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Cheap contract free iPhones (in the US)... but they've got awhile before the price lets that happen.

I've also wondered if the reason that iPod touch owners have 3.1.1 while the iPhone has 3.1 is because 3.1.0 had camera stuff in it.
 
Video-only on the Touch would be a bad move. If there is a hardware issue that prevents a 3Gs camera then we'll have to wait for a newer smaller camera, a thicker iPod Touch is also not acceptable.
 
ipod touch 4g

what i am thinking is that the reason that nano has all these crazy features is so they can get people to get an ipod nano so theyll have a lot of people buying the nano. and then with all that money theyll some what use it for the ipod touch to be better than the nano so the itouch can have a camera and a video camera and ill think there gonna anounce it next September but hey i might be wrong another possibility is that if it had a camera and maybe a mic theyll say screw the iphone ima buy the itouch then the ipod touch would be like and iphone but u dont have internet werever u go then the iphone will drop and the itouch will rise. so yeah and another crazr rumor was that evreything will be in the new 16gig ipod touch that itll have a camera a fm radio and mic so yeah there tons of difrent rumors :D:D:D:apple::)
 
Apple will discover that a lot of people will buy the 16 GB´s Zune and in a couple of months..surprise! 16 GB iPod Touch with camera at $199
 
Yup, I was right, the manufacturing issues made them pull the camera at the last minute.

It'll be in the forth gen.
 
catracho said:
Apple will discover that a lot of people will buy the 16 GB´s Zune and in a couple of months..surprise! 16 GB iPod Touch with camera at $199
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How does that even start to make sense ? You say : "A lot of people will buy a device without a camera" and then conclude that Apple will put out a device with a camera to compete with it ?

Seriously, I'm dumber from having read your post.
 
Steve Jobs has previously been quotes as saying the camera was not included to cut the price of the ipod touch as it is commonly seen as gaming device. Therefore that the reason. Old news! OCD anyone?
 
SnowLeopardUser said:
Steve Jobs has previously been quotes as saying the camera was not included to cut the price of the ipod touch as it is commonly seen as gaming device. Therefore that the reason. Old news! OCD anyone?
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Of course he said that, he wouldn't go "all the devices we made didn't work so we had to take the camera out", would he?

Also, you clearly have no idea what OCD is...
 
joeshell383 said:
Why are we still rehashing this?

It is already crystal clear. Apple planned to add cameras to the Touch and Nano, dropped the Touch one at the last minute due to technical difficulties. All of this has already been reported.

Not because of costs or differentiation. The differentiation is in the phone, not the camera--- Apple is trying to encourage App Store usage on both devices and many apps utilize the camera.

However, as Steve announced (considering how much you love Steve you don't seem to listen to him very much--- he flat out stated 10M in 2008 and that a 3G iPhone was in the works at MWSF 2007 yet people argued about those things endlessly as if they were mysteries) the iPod lineup is now set for the holiday season. The earliest a camera-outfitted Touch would debut is January.
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oh really, so crystal clear?

if Apple were considering putting a camera in, that space looks like the nano camera. Perhaps they initially thought that a camera was a good idea, but then found out it wouldn't be compatible with all app store apps which might expect a higher resolution image to be returned to it, and therefore dropped it until they could work out a way to put a proper stills camera in

So not crystal clear - my theory above woudl suggest business reasons, not technical ones for dropping it.
 
mrklaw said:
wouldn't be compatible with all app store apps which might expect a higher resolution image to be returned to it, and therefore dropped it until they could work out a way to put a proper stills camera in

... my theory above woudl suggest business reasons, not technical ones for dropping it.
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Looks like your theory comprises technical reasons, not business ones, to me.
 
I would say it is related to the rumored manufacturing issues. Apple wanted to make it available immediately, so they had to drop the camera.
 
And if elephants had wings, they could fly. At what point does this all become silly and pointless? Oh yeah, I'm on Macrumors. :rolleyes:
 
If Apple added the camera, the iPod touch would come dangerously close to the iPhone. What justifies the price difference of several hundred $insert_favourite_currency if the only difference is the GSM/UMTS radio interface and the GPS. You can get separate devices for much less.
Apple has to keep the iPod touch well below the iPhone level – both price- and featurewise.

Maybe the iPod touch will get the 3.2 Mpx camera when the iPhone has gotten more features (eg front-facing video call camera, 5 Mpx camera with flash, mobile TV, …)
 
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