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I don’t see the big deal, it’s the exact same Mac as m1 MacBook Pros with a slightly faster chip. What does an unboxing matter when it’s the exact same design
 
I think it’s telling that these are in the same box as the old MacBook Pro’s. maybe that’s how they got out? For a new generation product you’d expect new graphics.
 
This is a huge stretch. If someone robs you, does that mean you are associated with him?
You are correct, my statement leaves for this interpretation.

I meant, I am sure Apple is frustrated that their products before release end up in reviews from Russia, and how'd they reach that far.
 
Hey guys, greetings from Russia!

Honestly, it’s impossible to buy a laptop like this here. Avito is our local version of eBay, but it gets flooded with fake listings from scammers, which the platform tries to handle quickly. This usually happens when new Apple products launch and prices are sky-high. This time is no different.

Right now, there are probably only 1 or 2 MacBook Pros with the M4 chip in Russia, brought in by a popular unofficial retailer. They gave them to bloggers for content. They most likely got the laptops in Dubai.
 
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Someone please buy this and do a 8hr livestream benchmarking this and tearing it down
 
If this is genuine then it is clearly a stolen item because for one thing, the massive list of sanctions against Russia due to Ukraine would prevent Apple from selling it's products in Russia.

As for where it could have come from, Apple would have produced a few hundred at least for PR and marketing purposes. Advertising companies around the world would have been given one so they can make TV and magazine adverts. Tech magazines around the world would have been given one so they can review it and have the written review ready to go when the product is released. These marketing macbooks would then be required to be returned to Apple to be repurposed. This website has proven that stuff Apple said was to be destroyed tends not to get destroyed because we see threads of prototypes or 'not for resale' appear in this site. Is it the case here maybe? the company tasked with destroying/repurposing these M4 pro macbooks did not do as they were told OR an employee sneaked one or a couple out so they could sell them? OR has one of the many companies/businesses given one of these M4 Pro's to review/take photo's for advertising not return it with and employee stealing it and now trying to sell it.

1. When the new model looks identical on the outside to the previous one, you don't need to hand out anything to take "photo's" for producing ads. And even if there'd be a design change, non-working dummies would work. Additionally, I can't remember anyone but Apple or one of their agencies making ads, and those ads are generally not made in China.

2. Apple never hands out their hardware for reviews before the corresponding event or press release, only after.

So no, it's unlikely these were for PR. They were either stolen from regular stock or somebody interpolated the specs and somehow faked the Geekbench results (unlikely).
 
I think the amount of attention given to this alleged leak is irresponsible, even for a rumor site. The packaging is last year’s box, an obvious red flag. How do we know this isn’t the same Russian, seeking to profit - likely fraudulently, definitely illegally - from the rumor cycle he just generated? What’s to stop others from attempting to do the same in the future?
when you start it up it also comes up in Russian, as it has a US power supply and US product code it should start in US English with an option to change it to Russian.
 
I think it’s telling that these are in the same box as the old MacBook Pro’s. maybe that’s how they got out? For a new generation product you’d expect new graphics.
Why would the old box design show the new specs and serial on the back?
 
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A lot of you are barking up the wrong tree.

First this is a significant leak & significant upgrade. If Apple is keeping the price the same you are getting double the memory (should’ve been 16gb for the m3 from the start), an extra thunderbolt port (all of them are tb4 instead of USB 4), and they’ll support 2 external displays without having to close the lid.

The fact that the performance of this new model is the same as the unbinned M3 Pro is remarkable.

But complain if you must!

The silly comparison between this & Russia & the us elections is absurd.
 
A lot of you are barking up the wrong tree.

First this is a significant leak & significant upgrade. If Apple is keeping the price the same you are getting double the memory (should’ve been 16gb for the m3 from the start), an extra thunderbolt port (all of them are tb4 instead of USB 4), and they’ll support 2 external displays without having to close the lid.

The fact that the performance of this new model is the same as the unbinned M3 Pro is remarkable.

But complain if you must!

The silly comparison between this & Russia & the us elections is absurd.
Spec bump, mate. I should hope we get 16 GB of RAM in a computer that starts at €2,049 in Europe ($2,247). Keep in mind that AI will eat RAM, so while 8 GB wasn't enough before for a future-proofed MBP, 16 GB won't be enough for a future-proofed MBP going forward. Move the RAM and SSD up one step at this price jumps to €2,509 ($2,751). This is not the "M4 Pro" model we're talking. Good machine; sure, but let's keep our feet on the ground.
 
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I really wonder where this MacBook Pro is coming from. It is the biggest leak since the iPhone 4. Unfortunately, the M4 MacBook Pro is just a minor bump so nothing earth shattering compared to the iPhone 4. This is the biggest most underwhelming leak in history I guess

Exactly, the iPhone 4 was a new design, new chip, new features, it was still a new product. This is… the same design, the same chip from the iPad Pro, there is no new information, or perhaps no surprising information. If this is the biggest leak since the iPhone 4, then I don’t think Apple has much to worry about in terms of IP. HP isn’t going to get a jump on their next design from this “leak”.

Right?

I should add, I don’t mind the iterative improvement approach, and although it’s not a big change, this is what I want to buy.
 
This thing is fast, but not faster than the overnight shopping they gave me for free. 🆓
 
Why doesn't anyone say anything about the 16gb memory on the box?
Since the M1, unified memory has always been written on the box of the Macs!
 
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