Nope, new M1 macs are extremely stable, fast and great to use. And every slim laptop manufacturer is doing exactly the same thing. Bet you miss your floppy drive too.
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Leaked MacBook Schematics Have Aided Independent Technicians Performing Complicated Repairs
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Bit extreme. I mean Louis is a great repair guy and you would want his services if the time comes. Not saying I am a fan but the reality is he knows how to use Apple to get views, likes and subscribers which translates into money. He is the way he is as people like it and tune in for it. Fair play to him for that but it does not detract from the benefits he provides.
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I will always be on the side of right-to-repair and I hope things change at Apple regarding this issue. I would not object even to (limited) government-action on this issue.
My current Macs are from 2011/2012 where RAM and drives aren't soldered. I stopped buying Macs back then because of this.
That said, I have completely given up on Apple making things repairable/upgradeable after ten years of waiting.
I know full well Apple products are sealed and I came to peace long ago with the fact that:
A. I will have to accept whatever cost comes along when my device breaks
B. Apple Care is no longer optional
C. Keeping the device past the warranty period is an ever-increasing risk; Selling/trading-in an out-of-warranty device is now a requirement
This is the cost of admission into Apple-land folks.
Each of you must decide whether or not it's worth it.
My current Macs are from 2011/2012 where RAM and drives aren't soldered. I stopped buying Macs back then because of this.
That said, I have completely given up on Apple making things repairable/upgradeable after ten years of waiting.
I know full well Apple products are sealed and I came to peace long ago with the fact that:
A. I will have to accept whatever cost comes along when my device breaks
B. Apple Care is no longer optional
C. Keeping the device past the warranty period is an ever-increasing risk; Selling/trading-in an out-of-warranty device is now a requirement
This is the cost of admission into Apple-land folks.
Each of you must decide whether or not it's worth it.
You're wrong. Planned obsolescence was first strategized in the 1920s by the president of General Motors, Alfred P. Sloan. It was NOT a government concept by any government. Also it was not a terribly smart concept considering how little money people had to "re-purchase" common durable goods items, much less automobiles.
Re: the John Deere conundrum, do what I did after decades of green machines--buy a Kubota or a New Holland, Case or something else. I have found that there is no magic in green paint or diesel engines, and life goes on.
His skill makes his money, you're literally just saying how dare he crap on Apple, their laptops break and keep him employed...
Well two weeks ago FedEx delivered a Milwaukee power drill from Home Depot to my front door with two lithium batteries much larger than in the iPhone and a giant lithium warning sticker on the box half opened with the packaging material falling out and FedEx didn’t seem overly concerned about it.
nah, ive been running a 2020 MBA that has stability problems regularly. Not sure I get the floppy drive reference. Weak attempt at a joke i suppose but anyone with common sense knows thats a stupid comparison.
What I really want to know is where the hell are all of the people who said Macrumors shouldn't post anything about the leaked schematics because of how they were obtained in this thread. I guess now that it's a Robin Hood kinda situation it's ok now? I mean the article about the leak had like 30 posts about how Macrumors was bad for reporting in like an hour....
Independent repair shops have always had access to diagnostic software, parts, components, etc. through other means that are often illegal.
You don't have to replace the logic board if the SSD or RAM fails. They can be desoldered and replaced. Apple doesn't have their technicians perform these tasks and an SSD or RAM failing is a rare event.
I don't believe in the Right to Repair absolutely. I don't think Apple should be disabling functionality for using third party parts and I think the battery in Macs should be easily replaceable. Apple can use similar adhesive to the adhesive used in the iPhone for the Macs' battery. You shouldn't have to remove the entire logic board to replace the battery. Diagnostic software and schematics should be provided by Apple because they're already available through unofficial sources on the Internet.
How many automakers have been sued because a customer installed a part incorrectly? How many appliance manufacturers have been sued because someone installed a controller board incorrectly causing a fire shortly after?
Why would Apple, John Deer, Samsung, HP, etc be any different?
I’m sure they could require customers to sign a waiver if they wanted.
You miss the point. Blaming the user for the data loss after it happened isn’t going to be productive.
Everyone should back up their data. I’ve learned the hard way 13 years ago after a HD failure.
The difference here is the storage device doesn’t have to fail, the ram, power regulator(s) or whatever can (and do) fail, and when they do, there is no more pulling the drive or SSD stick.
I backup my data in case the SSD fails (I’m using a 2014 MBP model with a replaceable SSD)
I shouldn’t have to backup my data because a random component can fail and Apple soldered the damn chips to the logic board making a perfectly working SSD useless and inaccessible.
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He's watching his business, profession and way of life change, perhaps disappear.
I get it, but he needs to roll with the times. His means of making a living are going to diminish---if I were him, I'd spend more time finding revenue streams, as the idea he is going to beat Apple or other manufacturers on this Quixotic campaign to make it so everything is fixable, replaceable and accessible is just silly. That ship sailed once the iPhone was released without a replaceable battery and people didn't care.
It's politically correct to root for people like Rossman, but he lost this war long ago. If you're a consumer worried about data, please backup.
No one wants the service manuals, those are for the retail monkeys at the apple store with 2 weeks training.
The leaked material were engineering schematics.
They can be used to perform component level repair on logic boards. Rather than paying upwards of $700 for Apple to swap your board when only a single chip is faulty, or when they tell you data recovery is ‘impossible’
The thing that really annoys me: Your old board that gets taken out and returned to apple, gets the chip fix in China, then is sent back out for another customer to pay $700 for your refurbished board.
Right to Repair is a marketing myth.
You have a right to do mostly whatever you want to do with your property. I mean, you can't take your iPhone and beat someone over the head with it, but you get the point.
This is a market issue. The market moved on to thinner, lighter, sealed, etc.
The majority of people don't worry about this because of the majority of users know nothing about their RAM and don't consider battery swaps anymore for their phones. This is just the way things are.
Now, people become concerned when they realize they have to buy a new machine because of what used to be a routine and cheap part going kaput. But realistically, given the number of users, how big of a concern is this to most people?
Hey, I wish I could add RAM to my Mac. I wish I could work on my car myself, sort of as a hobbyist.
But I don't have a laptop from 2002 and my car is not from 1968.
Right to Repair is a marketing myth.
You have a right to do mostly whatever you want to do with your property. I mean, you can't take your iPhone and beat someone over the head with it, but you get the point.
This is a market issue. The market moved on to thinner, lighter, sealed, etc.
The majority of people don't worry about this because of the majority of users know nothing about their RAM and don't consider battery swaps anymore for their phones. This is just the way things are.
Now, people become concerned when they realize they have to buy a new machine because of what used to be a routine and cheap part going kaput. But realistically, given the number of users, how big of a concern is this to most people?
Hey, I wish I could add RAM to my Mac. I wish I could work on my car myself, as well, sort of as a hogbbyist.
But I don't have a laptop from 2002 and my car is not from 1968.
@Darth Tulhu gets it. Not just Apple stuff either, although there's more freedom with Windows part swapping, I guess.
Rossman is an obnoxious, pompous idiot… and that’s being kind.
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What makes you believe that these are common faults? As much as I like the idea of having a modular SSD, that connector is a point of failure. If RAM/SSD are soldered on, the failure points may not exist.
When horse drawn carriages were replaced by cars, the horse cobblers complained too.
The AirTag I received last week had a well kept sticker. Just because FedEx chose to deliver it doesn't mean they are following regulations. If the shipper was careless with declaring the goods, FedEx may not have known what was inside.
I bet you they would care if that battery fell out of a mangled box, exploded and caused a fire at one of their sorting facilities.
I googled why do Lithium batteries require a special sticker and this was the first link.
Does the company that "Doesn't Care" about shipping lithium batteries prepare a 5 page document like the one I have linked above ?