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10 bucks says that air will be more stable than your new one. Not yet? Wait till you start having to use dongles regularly. then it will start messing up
Nope, new M1 macs are extremely stable, fast and great to use. And every slim laptop manufacturer is doing exactly the same thing. Bet you miss your floppy drive too.
 
Rossmann doesn't just hate Apple. He also is glad that others have robbed and blackmailed Apple.

Bit extreme. I mean Louis is a great repair guy and you would want his services if the time comes. Not saying I am a fan but the reality is he knows how to use Apple to get views, likes and subscribers which translates into money. He is the way he is as people like it and tune in for it. Fair play to him for that but it does not detract from the benefits he provides.
 
That defense is what Apple would use. You do realize that schematics and service diagrams make it easier and therefore SAFER. I haven’t heard of anyone suing a car manufacture or Dell because they got a service manual from them and caused property damage or personal injury.

Having access to genuine Apple batteries rather than a no name counterfeit would REALLY help with safety (not that genuine batteries don’t suffer from defects)

Apple argues allowing someone repairing their device could leave a loose screw that could short out the battery.

Except that argument is moot because that can still happen today just like it could have happened 13 years ago. The risk isn’t increased because Apple also sells parts.

Shoddy workmanship, inexperienced people, etc are always going to exist and can cause issues regardless if they use genuine parts or fakes, have access to schematics and documentation or don’t.
Except product liability lawyers see the world very differently than...humans.
 
I will always be on the side of right-to-repair and I hope things change at Apple regarding this issue. I would not object even to (limited) government-action on this issue.

My current Macs are from 2011/2012 where RAM and drives aren't soldered. I stopped buying Macs back then because of this.

That said, I have completely given up on Apple making things repairable/upgradeable after ten years of waiting.

I know full well Apple products are sealed and I came to peace long ago with the fact that:

A. I will have to accept whatever cost comes along when my device breaks
B. Apple Care is no longer optional
C. Keeping the device past the warranty period is an ever-increasing risk; Selling/trading-in an out-of-warranty device is now a requirement

This is the cost of admission into Apple-land folks.

Each of you must decide whether or not it's worth it.
 
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You should probably research the origin of planned obsolescence before you proceed further. It’s a post great depression era concept implemented by the US government, which was used to stimulate the economy. ie: force US citizens to have to purchase new products to keep the US economy alive. This was done by things like (but not limited to): 1. Discontinuing availability of car parts, 2. Designing parts to fail more often.

Present companies have embraced this and gone on to extend it (ie: soldering components that used to be user replaceable, locking out the ability to start a tractor because a small part had been replaced … a part that the same farmer used to replace on their older tractor for decades before they bought their new one.) Apple being one of those examples. John Deere another example. Both popular examples for good reason.

I should add that using equipment that contains user-replaceable hardware does not support an argument against planned obsolescence and right to repair. Those products may have crashed or failed, but they can be repaired due to the abundance of schematics available for them, as well as ease of replacement of RAM or storage. You can even replace those items in several of the Apple products you mentioned. Try doing that in your newer Apple items. That’s a part of planned obsolescence.
You're wrong. Planned obsolescence was first strategized in the 1920s by the president of General Motors, Alfred P. Sloan. It was NOT a government concept by any government. Also it was not a terribly smart concept considering how little money people had to "re-purchase" common durable goods items, much less automobiles.

Re: the John Deere conundrum, do what I did after decades of green machines--buy a Kubota or a New Holland, Case or something else. I have found that there is no magic in green paint or diesel engines, and life goes on.
 
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He's the worst rubbish to ever hit YouTube. He uses Apple "fans" to get views on his Apple bashing videos. He's not an authorized Apple repair service. I would never spend a dime on a "technician" that craps on the company that makes my product just for him to make money.
His skill makes his money, you're literally just saying how dare he crap on Apple, their laptops break and keep him employed...
 
Even Fedex has special rules: There are several regulations surrounding the safe transport of lithium batteries. Remember: all types of lithium batteries are considered Dangerous Goods and must be handled and labeled properly. The type of lithium battery, quantity, electric capacity, charge and how they're packed.
Well two weeks ago FedEx delivered a Milwaukee power drill from Home Depot to my front door with two lithium batteries much larger than in the iPhone and a giant lithium warning sticker on the box half opened with the packaging material falling out and FedEx didn’t seem overly concerned about it.
 
Nope, new M1 macs are extremely stable, fast and great to use. And every slim laptop manufacturer is doing exactly the same thing. Bet you miss your floppy drive too.
nah, ive been running a 2020 MBA that has stability problems regularly. Not sure I get the floppy drive reference. Weak attempt at a joke i suppose but anyone with common sense knows thats a stupid comparison.
 
What I really want to know is where the hell are all of the people who said Macrumors shouldn't post anything about the leaked schematics because of how they were obtained in this thread. I guess now that it's a Robin Hood kinda situation it's ok now? I mean the article about the leak had like 30 posts about how Macrumors was bad for reporting in like an hour....
 
Independent repair shops have always had access to diagnostic software, parts, components, etc. through other means that are often illegal.
 
Exactly! How is it environmentally friendly if I have to replace the entire motherboard if the soldered on SSD or ram fails?
They need to keep common wear items replaceable.
You don't have to replace the logic board if the SSD or RAM fails. They can be desoldered and replaced. Apple doesn't have their technicians perform these tasks and an SSD or RAM failing is a rare event.
 
I don’t believe in the whole right to repair concept. Too many crap people who halfass do stuff. It also ties the hands of the designers. If Apple was forced to put replaceable batteries in phones the life of the device is decreased. The glue and soldering serve a purpose and it’s not to limit tampering, it’s to limit motion. By minimizing moving parts and unnecessary vibrations components work more efficiently and last longer.
I had 3 Palm Treo Smartphones before the iPhone came out. The achilles’ heel of that device was the removable battery. The connection failed over time and had the potential to fry other components under the right conditions.

The iPhone got a lot of heat for no quick swap batteries, but the quality and longer life of the battery and device made a huge difference.
I don't believe in the Right to Repair absolutely. I don't think Apple should be disabling functionality for using third party parts and I think the battery in Macs should be easily replaceable. Apple can use similar adhesive to the adhesive used in the iPhone for the Macs' battery. You shouldn't have to remove the entire logic board to replace the battery. Diagnostic software and schematics should be provided by Apple because they're already available through unofficial sources on the Internet.
 
Except product liability lawyers see the world very differently than...humans.
How many automakers have been sued because a customer installed a part incorrectly? How many appliance manufacturers have been sued because someone installed a controller board incorrectly causing a fire shortly after?

Why would Apple, John Deer, Samsung, HP, etc be any different?

I’m sure they could require customers to sign a waiver if they wanted.
 
The solution is called backing up your data, you should have ZERO need to get the data back from a computer. If the hard drive crashed you would be totally screwed. You can't rely on someone else to protect your own data on a computer.
You miss the point. Blaming the user for the data loss after it happened isn’t going to be productive.
Everyone should back up their data. I’ve learned the hard way 13 years ago after a HD failure.

The difference here is the storage device doesn’t have to fail, the ram, power regulator(s) or whatever can (and do) fail, and when they do, there is no more pulling the drive or SSD stick.

I backup my data in case the SSD fails (I’m using a 2014 MBP model with a replaceable SSD)

I shouldn’t have to backup my data because a random component can fail and Apple soldered the damn chips to the logic board making a perfectly working SSD useless and inaccessible.
 
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Can’t stand the bloke! So arrogant!
He's watching his business, profession and way of life change, perhaps disappear.

I get it, but he needs to roll with the times. His means of making a living are going to diminish---if I were him, I'd spend more time finding revenue streams, as the idea he is going to beat Apple or other manufacturers on this Quixotic campaign to make it so everything is fixable, replaceable and accessible is just silly. That ship sailed once the iPhone was released without a replaceable battery and people didn't care.

It's politically correct to root for people like Rossman, but he lost this war long ago. If you're a consumer worried about data, please backup.
 
It's trivial to become a self-servicing account and get a GSX account which gives you legitimate access to all of Apple's service manuals. All you need is photos of your ESD-safe work area and to furnish Apple with the proper business documentation.

No one wants the service manuals, those are for the retail monkeys at the apple store with 2 weeks training.

The leaked material were engineering schematics.

They can be used to perform component level repair on logic boards. Rather than paying upwards of $700 for Apple to swap your board when only a single chip is faulty, or when they tell you data recovery is ‘impossible’

The thing that really annoys me: Your old board that gets taken out and returned to apple, gets the chip fix in China, then is sent back out for another customer to pay $700 for your refurbished board.
 
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I don't believe in the Right to Repair absolutely. I don't think Apple should be disabling functionality for using third party parts and I think the battery in Macs should be easily replaceable. Apple can use similar adhesive to the adhesive used in the iPhone for the Macs' battery. You shouldn't have to remove the entire logic board to replace the battery. Diagnostic software and schematics should be provided by Apple because they're already available through unofficial sources on the Internet.
Right to Repair is a marketing myth.

You have a right to do mostly whatever you want to do with your property. I mean, you can't take your iPhone and beat someone over the head with it, but you get the point.

This is a market issue. The market moved on to thinner, lighter, sealed, etc.

The majority of people don't worry about this because of the majority of users know nothing about their RAM and don't consider battery swaps anymore for their phones. This is just the way things are.

Now, people become concerned when they realize they have to buy a new machine because of what used to be a routine and cheap part going kaput. But realistically, given the number of users, how big of a concern is this to most people?

Hey, I wish I could add RAM to my Mac. I wish I could work on my car myself, sort of as a hobbyist.

But I don't have a laptop from 2002 and my car is not from 1968.
 
I don't believe in the Right to Repair absolutely. I don't think Apple should be disabling functionality for using third party parts and I think the battery in Macs should be easily replaceable. Apple can use similar adhesive to the adhesive used in the iPhone for the Macs' battery. You shouldn't have to remove the entire logic board to replace the battery. Diagnostic software and schematics should be provided by Apple because they're already available through unofficial sources on the Internet.
Right to Repair is a marketing myth.

You have a right to do mostly whatever you want to do with your property. I mean, you can't take your iPhone and beat someone over the head with it, but you get the point.

This is a market issue. The market moved on to thinner, lighter, sealed, etc.

The majority of people don't worry about this because of the majority of users know nothing about their RAM and don't consider battery swaps anymore for their phones. This is just the way things are.

Now, people become concerned when they realize they have to buy a new machine because of what used to be a routine and cheap part going kaput. But realistically, given the number of users, how big of a concern is this to most people?

Hey, I wish I could add RAM to my Mac. I wish I could work on my car myself, as well, sort of as a hogbbyist.

But I don't have a laptop from 2002 and my car is not from 1968.
I will always be on the side of right-to-repair and I hope things change at Apple regarding this issue. I would not object even to (limited) government-action on this issue.

My current Macs are from 2011/2012 where RAM and drives aren't soldered. I stopped buying Macs back then because of this.

That said, I have completely given up on Apple making things repairable/upgradeable after ten years of waiting.

I know full well Apple products are sealed and I came to peace long ago with the fact that:

A. I will have to accept whatever cost comes along when my device breaks
B. Apple Care is no longer optional
C. Keeping the device past the warranty period is an ever-increasing risk; Selling/trading-in an out-of-warranty device is now a requirement

This is the cost of admission into Apple-land folks.

Each of you must decide whether or not it's worth it.
@Darth Tulhu gets it. Not just Apple stuff either, although there's more freedom with Windows part swapping, I guess.
 
Exactly! How is it environmentally friendly if I have to replace the entire motherboard if the soldered on SSD or ram fails?
They need to keep common wear items replaceable.
What makes you believe that these are common faults? As much as I like the idea of having a modular SSD, that connector is a point of failure. If RAM/SSD are soldered on, the failure points may not exist.
 
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No one wants the service manuals, those are for the retail monkeys at the apple store with 2 weeks training.

The leaked material were engineering schematics.

They can be used to perform component level repair on logic boards. Rather than paying upwards of $700 for Apple to swap your board when only a single chip is faulty, or when they tell you data recovery is ‘impossible’

The thing that really annoys me: Your old board that gets taken out and returned to apple, gets the chip fix in China, then is sent back out for another customer to pay $700 for your refurbished board.
When horse drawn carriages were replaced by cars, the horse cobblers complained too.
 
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Well two weeks ago FedEx delivered a Milwaukee power drill from Home Depot to my front door with two lithium batteries much larger than in the iPhone and a giant lithium warning sticker on the box half opened with the packaging material falling out and FedEx didn’t seem overly concerned about it.
The AirTag I received last week had a well kept sticker. Just because FedEx chose to deliver it doesn't mean they are following regulations. If the shipper was careless with declaring the goods, FedEx may not have known what was inside.

I bet you they would care if that battery fell out of a mangled box, exploded and caused a fire at one of their sorting facilities.

I googled why do Lithium batteries require a special sticker and this was the first link.



Does the company that "Doesn't Care" about shipping lithium batteries prepare a 5 page document like the one I have linked above ?
 
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