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Maybe it is only meant for china after all or they decided to scrap it last minute

I do believe that in china, a gadget is considered high class if it is glossy, and considered cheap if it is matte. I know that is why they make the HTC phones from factory with glossy backs, but european companies, when they re-brand them, make them matte.
 
I much prefer glossy and so glad that they did. It looks more attractive being glossy, I think anyway :D
 
I have been following this rumor for a while now, and you are all missing something: The earpiece is mounted way higher on this phone, with what appears to be a small forward-facing camera below it. See the picture and zoomed in picture below to see what I am talking about.

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It appears to me as an ambient light sensor. Looks the same as it does right now, the camera flash must have made it more visible
 
As there have been some indications in this thread that the 3GS might not be the full story, i'd like to pour some fuel into the fire:

Wasn't there an Apple media event scheduled for the end of June? Coincidentally Mr Jobs is said to officially return towards end of June and it would fit the picture to have _him_ announcing the "real thing" (i.e. iPhone Pro or whatever it may be called).

People may now claim that Apple is trying to move away from Steve Jobs being the public anchorman and that this would make the speculation above improbable. Well - the assumption of Apple moving away from SJ as identification figure is pure speculation as well (or did i miss some official statement of Apple on that?) and so i consider the above a feasible speculation :)

I believe Apple to be capable of a lot of things, but in this case, there are too many outside factors to consider.

An iPhone has to be sold by the phone companies. They probably don't take kindly to the lot of complaints they would receive from customers (THEIR customers, not APPLES customers) if Apple released a 'second NEW iPhone' only 3 1/2 weeks after the grand revelation of the 3GS.

Really doubt it.

My guess is on xmas business, too. That would mean end of November and coincides with the 5 month rhythm they've displayed on previous iPhone updates, considering the Macrumors buyer guide.

See the monthly entries for https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//#iPhone
 
diferentiate btw new 3GS and old 3G

A matte case would have been great...
Now thatthe 3Gs looks the same as the 3G there's no huge reason to upgrade or buy (as most ppl have the origibnal 3G) at the moment...
 
Don't know if you guys remember but about 2-3 months ago there were reports of Apple purchacing a whole load of 3mp Camera lenses and 5mp camera lenses. Well the 3mp's have clearly been used but whats happening with the fives?

:rolleyes:

For iPod Touch 64gb....maybe?

But we don't need a 5gp cam for front facing 10 inch Mac Tablet :rolleyes:
[Or do we? :D]
 
iPhone 3G = utter crap. Old design, Old camera, Old screen. You have to be brain dead if you're desperate to get this garbage. For Apple, the most significant update is in-app purchasing. They can't wait to rape our children in the process. I'm waiting another year for something significant. Meanwhile there'll be a Zune HD Phone with OLED screen, and the competition will release countless phones with 12mp+ cameras.

Doesn't it make you sick watching the keynote? All the developers, industry insiders and mac journalists sitting there...drooling over themselves at the mere suggestion of the most insignificant change in the iPhone. Even when we're all sat at home feeling short changed, they're applauding and clambering over themselves to kiss some Apple ass.

See you in 2010 *sigh*
 
I just have to notice those shiny areas on my MBP's trackpad and space bar and it seems obvious: the matte would go gloss in various well-traveled places, and that might not look pretty. Also, someone mentioned a clear coat over the matte? Doubt it, since that too would wear thin in spots.

This will be my first iphone, arriving the 19th...:) No complaints yet.

Lastly, drink when you're thirsty (buy it when you need/want it). There will, as we all know by now, a long future of revisions and new goodies added to our Apples. Sure, wait for the next revision before buying, but don't be surprised if you find yourself in the same place a month later (can't wait for the next revision).

I don't believe Apple will be following through with the matte black finishes. If you go back to the release of the matte black MacBook, there were numerous cases where the black was rubbing off and showing up white. One problem was that the paint used was not up to the challenges of sweat and oils ones body produces. If you notice, that black MacBook no longer exists in Apple's current line up. Apple scrapped the idea even after the apparent "fix" with a different paint because of the hassle of it. Also, Apple likes to create hardware that looks alike. Now with the matte black MacBook gone, what would it pair up with? Apple used to stick to: White for consumer products, Metal for professional product. With the now mixing of metal and black in the MBP and the iMac, the gloss black fits right in with it.
:rolleyes:
 
3g being phased out

well the 3G will soon be phased out. The Matte looked cool but that rubbery matte material is harder to clean than smooth plastic. Any type of grease shows right up on a matte surface. Ive had phone covers that looked like pretty much the same material.

They are not going to phase the 3G out. They are going to sell it along side of the 3GS. Only the 8gb model though.
 
I believe Apple to be capable of a lot of things, but in this case, there are too many outside factors to consider.

An iPhone has to be sold by the phone companies. They probably don't take kindly to the lot of complaints they would receive from customers (THEIR customers, not APPLES customers) if Apple released a 'second NEW iPhone' only 3 1/2 weeks after the grand revelation of the 3GS.

Well, not if the "new" device would be in another device class. In comparison with the notebooks - if Apple refreshed the Macbooks and shortly after introduced a new device called MacBook Pro, there would of course be some people complaining (they always do), but it would be something new and different, so the majority of customers might accept it.

Today a MacBook Pro line does already exist, but the iPhone is not yet diversified. So i could indeed imagine Apple introducing an iPhone Pro within a short timeframe in addition to the 3GS. The "pro" would be positioned higher and thus also priced higher (= revenue for Apple).

It worked great for Apple in the computer business: consumer device made of plastic, pro device with more/better features made of an optically different material - as metal on a phone might impair radio reception, that could well be something else, e.g. ceramic, carbon fibre or ... matte plastic! ;)

Only question would be what is in the contracts with the exclusive distribution rights for selected phone providers in various countries - would a hypothetical iPhone Pro be covered by the contract (e.g. "all devices from Apple with phone capabilities for the next 5 years") or not? If not, they had no reason to complain and Apple could introduce something new and sell it independently from any phone provider...
 
Well, not if the "new" device would be in another device class. In comparison with the notebooks - if Apple refreshed the Macbooks and shortly after introduced a new device called MacBook Pro, there would of course be some people complaining (they always do), but it would be something new and different, so the majority of customers might accept it.

Today a MacBook Pro line does already exist, but the iPhone is not yet diversified. So i could indeed imagine Apple introducing an iPhone Pro within a short timeframe in addition to the 3GS. The "pro" would be positioned higher and thus also priced higher (= revenue for Apple).

It worked great for Apple in the computer business: consumer device made of plastic, pro device with more/better features made of an optically different material - as metal on a phone might impair radio reception, that could well be something else, e.g. ceramic, carbon fibre or ... matte plastic! ;)

Only question would be what is in the contracts with the exclusive distribution rights for selected phone providers in various countries - would a hypothetical iPhone Pro be covered by the contract (e.g. "all devices from Apple with phone capabilities for the next 5 years") or not? If not, they had no reason to complain and Apple could introduce something new and sell it independently from any phone provider...

a laptop isn't the sort of thing you refresh every year/2 years. the iphone is due to carrier contracts/upgrades etc etc. someone who just tied themselves down to a 2 year contract for the 3gs only to find the 3gs pro come out a month later WOULD be pissed. the nature and popularity of the iphone means you cant compare it to desktop/notebook refreshes. i just don't see a pro happening. people are already pissed off that they cant have the 3gs the second it's released (without spending a lot of cash on early upgrades) because they fail to understand subsidized phone contracts. this is with 6 months contract remaining, imagine if they had 17 months remaining?

"wtf? i cant have the new phone without paying ATT $1500? omfg apple and ATT suck!!!"

a phone is a phone, and the iphone does it all and then some. there is no need to create a new "pro" range. the macbook pro's main selling point over a normal macbook was (forgetting the size) better processor/ram/graphics cards. speed rather than features. it was made for "professional" careers. more horsepower to do what the average home user wouldn't usually do. why would you need that with a range of phones?
 
i can see it being used for maybe the cheap version of the iphone to be released whenever. I mean "mini" iphone or whatever word you want to use meaning cheap, small, watered down...etc
 
absolutely agree, see my post about AT&T not being ready for what Apple has to offer. Just wish they didnt call it an new generation of phone... it is JUST an upgrade, so why market it as the new generation. Doesn't matter if its 2,1 or 3,1... it's how they talk about it. This IS there 'lates and greatest' and is promoted like the NEXT generation... ie... a new name.

i really think all of you are missing what the "s" means in iphone 3G S. To simply say, oh its the same thing as the 3G is quite an understatement. sure it doesnt have a matte cover, but the insides are definitely, without a doubt, better and FASTER as in SPEEDDDDDD.
 
i dont get it then
will they release that next year?
cause alot of people will be pissed off if they buy the iphone 3GS and then a new iphone comes out in like 6 months with a matte finish.....
 
I would concur with the sentiment that the matte is just an unfinished gloss case, remember all the reaction against how blatant all the FCC wording was, it would definitely be less obvious under a clear coat.

I would highly doubt we see something new with the iPhone before next year, this year=minor upgrade and cheaper to bring in more people, next year=major upgrade to get all 3G upgrader. Fewer people are eligible to upgrade at christmas that would not already jump on the 3GS.

the only iPhone level missing is the Air (3G=macbook, 3GS=macbook pro, 3GAir=macbook air) but then it sounds like 3 gayer. haha.

Apple's just waiting out the ATT contract like all the current 3G owners:
I want to see Jobs reaction the first time he gets a "I sent you a multimedia message . . . sent from my iPhone (in Australia, etc),
 
Wasn't there an Apple media event scheduled for the end of June? Coincidentally Mr Jobs is said to officially return towards end of June and it would fit the picture to have _him_ announcing the "real thing" (i.e. iPhone Pro or whatever it may be called).

I think we might have some rioting going on if that was the case. All those scrambling to buy the 3GS would be pretty upset if a Pro version came out within a few weeks of buying the 3GS.
 
Meh

I'm glad it stayed glossy. I like the sleek look of the shiny Precious. Besides, glossy laptop displays, glossy iPhones ... makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

:p
 
suspicion

I really would like someone can confirm this:
is 3G s 'iPhone 2,1' or 'iPhone 3,1'? This is key to solving the mystery.
Along with 5MP camera module order rumor we heard, I have a GIT feeling
that Apple my screw 3Gs customer with new model within or close to 6months time by releasing proper 3G successor...(may be they will give 100 back or sth... but unlikely)

This claim kind of makes sense if 3Gs is iPhone 2,1. Because 2,1 started appearing from last Dec, so it took about 6months for it to become real product. 3,1 appeared with intro of 3.0 so if we add 6months, that roughly Spetember meaning around the iPod announcement/Snow Leopard Annoucement. So potentially we could see iPhone mini or iPhone Pro.

But of course we can see this as Apple originally aiming for two model line up for June but getting behind the schedule and not completing it time(delaying the iPhone 3,1 for next year...)

as for the case there are three possible theories I can think of:
1. It was one of the candidates(this has been mentioned subsequent to picture leak). If this is the case the decision to go with glossy was made quite a while ago seeing that there was not much legit leak probably due to the same appearance.

2.This is the stage before the coating glossy stuff. I have no basis for this. But with very quick glance at 3Gs sample at Gizmodo hands one while it was on... it seemed like back casing labels and fonts are different(as in the iPhone letters and labels are now shiny... but this could very well be illusion). This may be true if they have changed the manufacturing process slightly to deal with the cracking issue

3. Number was guessed. Guess what? first version was A1203, so one can quite reasonable guess that next one up will be A1303.
 
My thoughts:

Apple hasn't announced iPhone 3,1. Anyone else catch that?
Possibly a matte OLED (maybe iChat) iPhone pro ish thing released holiday season. For some reason the 3g S doesn't seem like a TRUE sequel. My guess: 32gb iPhone pro with iChat and oled screen and matte case for around 600 dollars Christmas time. (or 500 if at&t drops price of unsubsidized by 100)

i beg to differ. I don't think we'll see a new iphone for a while now.
 
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