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I hope they update the Apple Cinema Display. That thing sorely needs an update (USB 3, anybody)?
 
In three years, many Apple customers (including myself) will simply want (and be able to afford) an entirely new laptop computer. Everything will be that much better.

Yes, thats EXACTLY what Apple wants... Sounds like you will buy new every few years anyway. Apple is forcing the rest of us to do the same by using solder and proprietary parts that are almost impossible to get through Apple parts channels.

I heard Apple was running low on cash, so I guess I understand why they need to use these tactics :D
 
I heard Apple was running low on cash, so I guess I understand why they need to use these tactics :D

Everyone tried telling Tim that buying a third world country outright was a bad idea. But did he listen? Of course not. He's Tim Cook. CEO of APPLE FREAKING INC.! If he wants to buy a third world country, by God he should be allowed to buy a third world country.

And now look at Apple. Stocks in the drain, and they only have enough buying power to purchase a rinky-dink chain of islands. I really miss Steve. :(
 
That's exactly what the retina pro is

It has more in common with the air than it does with the regular Pro

No it's not!

The 11" MBA is much smaller and lighter (and it is NOT retina...yet).

Yes..., I know you were talking about the 13" MBA. You must understand that not all people think they need the power that the 13" and 15" models have. The computer you can take anywhere makes for a more powerful computer.

But some of us still like to have the best displays (and are willing to pay for it).
 
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Maybe in biased, but I think the model numbers indicate:
1) Two 11" MBA models
2) Two MBA 13" models
3) Two 13" MBP models
4) A single 15" MBP model.

thats pretty sad if they really wipe out the cMBP

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I found one, and MD is the 2012 prefix, so that could be four non-retina MacBook Pros.

Other than that, the model numbers are nonsense because there's no real pattern.

well at least we know there will be three new product? (ME) ?
 
Could the leaked part numbers mean the updated 11" and 13" MBA, and three versions of an updated 13" rMBP? According to AppleInsider, Amazon.com ran out of stock of the low-end 13" rMBP, pointing to a possible refresh. In addition, AppleInsider speculates that the 15" rMBP may not get a refresh this time. The link to the news is here: http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...tina-macbook-pro-amid-rumors-of-slimmer-model

That would be interesting. Honestly the 15" would get very little out of a Haswell update. The 13" stands to gain a lot more. However, the 15" has also been on the market in roughly its current specs for a full 12 months now.

If they could get the price of the 13" rMBP down to ~$1299 then I could imagine them dropping the 13" Air, especially with the talk of a slimmer design, but I don't think that will happen quite yet.
 
That would be interesting. Honestly the 15" would get very little out of a Haswell update. The 13" stands to gain a lot more. However, the 15" has also been on the market in roughly its current specs for a full 12 months now.

If they could get the price of the 13" rMBP down to ~$1299 then I could imagine them dropping the 13" Air, especially with the talk of a slimmer design, but I don't think that will happen quite yet.

Why do you assume the air will stay the same? It was released nearly 2.5 years ago!
 
But it doesn't. The larger investment still doesn't even come close to making up the difference for lower total sales.

Why do you believe that? Not meaning to be rude or condescending, I'm genuinely interested in statistics and such to properly inform me should I have missed something. Working in this sect, I can assure you the 10+ years of experience in the business and pro-sect, handling investments/systems, and the sort certainly adds up. It did for Apple, but once they moved to the consumer market that money dispersed to other platforms/companies. Claiming it was a dying sect due to years of neglect by Apple lacks logic as it was alive and well when Apple drove it, they merely pumped R&D into mobile computing and about shut down their professional systems then turned around and shouted "See! It's a dying market for Apple!". It was alive and well, Apple created a need where none previously existed with a great product (iPhone, developed from the iPad in house around 2004 first). It's tantamount to shooting someone and claiming they were already dead.
 
Why do you assume the air will stay the same? It was released nearly 2.5 years ago!

I'm not assuming that.

We have part numbers that looks like 3 laptops are getting updated.

I don't see updating one Air without updating the other.

Either only one of the rMBPs are being updated (and both of the Airs) or, more radically, we see updates to an 11", 13", and 15", where the 13" rMBP gets thinner and there is no more 13" Air. Just a thought, the first scenario is much more likely.
 
I'm not assuming that.

We have part numbers that looks like 3 laptops are getting updated.

I don't see updating one Air without updating the other.

Either only one of the rMBPs are being updated (and both of the Airs) or, more radically, we see updates to an 11", 13", and 15", where the 13" rMBP gets thinner and there is no more 13" Air. Just a thought, the first scenario is much more likely.

I think that the 3 part one is an accessory, like a time capsule with 802.11ac. The other ones are probably rmbp 13 and rmbp 15. I was under the impression that the mba processors aren't coming out for a while yet?
 
You are GREAT!

No it hasn't really..the rMBP still niche. To many of us in the working world still need things that it doesn't offer.

You are super great GermanyChris, thanks for your insight and stance!

I agree completely, there are so much technology already packed in the late 17" MBPs it just needs updating and refreshing! For the niche retina macbooks to come along and Apple designers touting the whole "to revolutionize is to get rid of old unnecessary technologies" (something like that) - is simply 'bullying' consumers to buy into trends. Forcing certain technologies into being obsolete isn't at all 'good business practices'. I love the thinner and power packed retina macbooks as much as the next fangurl but for people to deny they ever used the disc drives is ridiculous.

People have voted with their buying power, the regular 13 and 15 inchers with the disc drives are still selling in heaps, so those technologies are not meaningless to consumers, consumers still use disc drives.

Anyways I'm getting to excited...

I love my 17" MBP and still being very creative and productive with in my full time musical career. I still burn my own master copy CD-R, I still use lightscribe for promo discs as well as for retail. I am my own boss and production house, my own label and my own investor - made possible because of all the technologies packed into this awesome machine, thank you Apple for that!!! Now continue on with that sort of legacy and bring back a refreshed 17" MBP already - thanks!!!
 
People have voted with their buying power, the regular 13 and 15 inchers with the disc drives are still selling in heaps, so those technologies are not meaningless to consumers, consumers still use disc drives.

I'd love to actually see, if apple introduced the mbp without the dvd drive but extra battery (same price) which one will actually sold out faster :rolleyes:
 
Of course.

I'd love to actually see, if apple introduced the mbp without the dvd drive but extra battery (same price) which one will actually sold out faster :rolleyes:

Yes battery technology is on the improvement side, so lucky for us. More battery life is a huge PLUS for me for sure, yes yes yes, more more more battery life please!
 
Now continue on with that sort of legacy and bring back a refreshed 17" MBP already - thanks!!!
I hope you are not really waiting for this to happen. I seem to recall some people shouting out for the G5 Powerbook even after Intel CPUs had taken over macs.

Apple is done with optical drives integrated to mobile (read: laptop) devices. I'm cool with it, and I suppose so are the kids these days who've always listened to their music via downloads/streaming and share their stuff through the cloud or USB thumb drives.

Is the USB-connected optical drive really such a hassle?
 
actually yes, if more people are buying macs without the dvd drive why even bother putting there in the first place? it consumes a whole 30% of the 13" MBP space, which can be used for cooling, battery, etc etc...

All you'd be doing there is proving that people want more battery life.
 
The thing is, I dont want to carry around an extra accessory to wire in. I have 80GB of music, i carry around alot of movies/tv episodes, and i also use VM's alot which wear down SSD's. I have a Lenovo with an I5 that does this for me that cost me $250 and then the cost of a CDROM->Drive bay kit + SSD. For <400 i was able to meet almost all of my requirements(dont have a nice screen on it).

Apple has an easy way to draw in a lot of customers, but offering a cMBP base with retina display.

I suppose you use a laptop bag, which should have enough extra space for the mobile hard drive. If you organize your files right, the frequency for you to take that hard drive out of your bag should be quite low.
 
If they could get the price of the 13" rMBP down to ~$1299 then I could imagine them dropping the 13" Air, especially with the talk of a slimmer design, but I don't think that will happen quite yet.
Yes, I also think that the differentiation between a 13" Air and a 13" rMBP is basically screwed when the Air gains a retina screen. They are highly likely to come with both dual-core and integrated graphics, so what sense does it make to offer both?

Like I posted in another thread, Apple needs to overhaul their line-up. It´s getting increasingly confusing. Not to mention that their Pro laptops are going to be super models soon that are sacrificing everything a Pro user wants from them. Make the Air as slim as possible, make the Pro a Pro again and give us more Pro devices that warrant it.

I am not sure if Ive is behind this or if their marketing department (Schiller) just demands selling points and therefore they need to make everything thinner constantly. No one has anything against making something slimmer, but there´s a point were you get dimnished results from it and the Pro devices already show that Apple has barely any place left for Pro peripherals and components that need to be in a Pro laptop.
 
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