Leaked Photo Shows Partially Assembled iPhone 4S/5 Components with A5 Chip

[accessoriesguy]

can anything be said about the camera? does it support those 8 megapixel rumors? it would be a nice add.

A bigger battery (and greater storage) and higher voltage can be a suggestion of a bigger screen everyone btw. (possibly but not a necessary)

 

[cvaldes]

What's the voltage on the iPad 2? Does the A5 need more juice? Will the increased voltage create more heat? Guess all the "handwarmer" app creaters will like this.

Actually the A5 has a lower TDP than the A4.

The original iPad (A4-powered) had thermal issues and would occasionally overheat and shutdown if used in outdoors on a warm day. The A5-powered iPad 2 runs cooler and does not exhibit these thermal concerns.

 

[theperipheral]

Because they wanted an iPhone, and wanted 3G speeds. Or they just wanted an iPhone at the time the iPhone 3G came out.



I believe this is the worst analogy I've heard in the last ten years...



Hitler? Really?



It isn't targeted at iPhone 4 users. Honestly, if you have an iPhone 4, no, you don't have the absolute latest and most powerful phone... but it's fine. It does what it's supposed to, it does more than it needs to. 10 years ago the best you could hope to do on a phone was make a call and maybe play a game of Snake. Do you really need to be able to download questionable content at 4G speeds because you've been stuck with an iPhone 4 for the last year?



Well if it's only in the single-digit thousands, then it would actually only be in the very low hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue. But again, it's not targeted at people who want a new phone every four days... it's an economy model, for normal people who just want a smart phone.

You very well may be correct.

The fact is that Apple will sell millions of iPhones no matter what they release because the average human being is technologically retarded. Thankfully I was born with a fully functioning brain, and so if they try to rape my wallet with some mediocre 16 month speed boost, I'll either get the Galaxy S2 or I'll just keep the cash and keep my iPhone 4 until Apple decides to stop pounding the public and releases a proper upgrade.

 

[RBAsh]

Flash?

It that a camera flash on the front of the phone as well?

 

[Geckotek]

It that a camera flash on the front of the phone as well?

I'm hoping it's a notification LED.

 

[chrmjenkins]

We still don't know this because we don't know how much voltage is being consumed. We also don't know how much power the chipset actually pulls.

We may use less power, but it still stands that the mAh has not increased.

We have a guess at the chipset given the iPad 2 has very similar battery performance with the same battery as the iPad 1.

However, voltage is not "consumed." Whatever voltage is applied on the chip, it will all drop through the circuitry because you have to reach ground potential at the end. Thus, the question is does the higher potential applied lower, increase, or keep current the same?

Normally you increase voltage when you're in a bad timing situation, but the A5 is in the iphone is likely to be a slower clock in the iPad 2, just as it was in the iphone 4 versus the iPad. Thus, the higher voltage won't gain you anything there. So all you would be doing is forcing higher leakage (because now you've got a higher a higher potential on the gate and more voltage difference between transistors and bulk).

AFAIK, the voltage for the chipset in the iPad 2 didn't change from the iPad 1, so it seems likely that the battery is reporting a different voltage than what is actually being delivered to the chipset.

 

[T-Will]

I hope Apple fixes the Home button which has been failing me lately (never had this issue with my iPhone 2G/3GS/iPad 1st gen).

I know there's already a huge thread for this issue, but I'm pissed that Apple isn't willing to honor the warranty even though the issue started to occur during the warranty period. Stupid me for not reporting it during that time period.

But here's to a redesigned Home button!

 

[mrelwood]

Right after seeing the pic I looked at my 3G from the same angle, and noticed that the area around the earpiece is narrower in this pic. I'm starting to believe in a 3.7" - 4" display after all.

The 3G was the AIDS of iPhones.

Mine worked quite fine until iOS4. I still use it, but now it really is painful sometimes.

No one doesnt know anything until Apple says so.

Shouldn't you not say "Noone doesnt no nothing..." instead? I might be wrong though, we don't speak english (or american) here.

I am getting bored with all the iPhone rumors... update the phone, sell it, what's the hype about?

Why are you reading MacRumors? Wouldn't spitting in the roof be more productive for you?

 

[Geckotek]

Gurman and Chronic are tweeting back and forth about this old white face and something we saw back in April. Anybody able to figure out what Chronic is hinting about?

 

[Westacular]

no that can't be it, NOBODY on the planet would print the charge voltage on a battery.
They either don't use LiPos (which I highly doubt) or something else is wrong!
If they miraculously managed to pull this off (again, my Physics Ph.D. says: not possible), this would result in a 13.5% increase in battery capacity with the samd 1430mAh capacity.

The entire style of the labelling on the battery is different from the earlier photo and teardowns of previous models. Note how much more Chinese writing there is. Could be the battery is labelled to satisfy a different set of regulations?

Also, the nominal charge could also be printed elsewhere on the battery, out of frame. I definitely agree that this almost certainly has to be the same type of Li-ion polymer battery they're already using.

 

[jav6454]

We have a guess at the chipset given the iPad 2 has very similar battery performance with the same battery as the iPad 1.

However, voltage is not "consumed." Whatever voltage is applied on the chip, it will all drop through the circuitry because you have to reach ground potential at the end. Thus, the question is does the higher potential applied lower, increase, or keep current the same?

Normally you increase voltage when you're in a bad timing situation, but the A5 is in the iphone is likely to be a slower clock in the iPad 2, just as it was in the iphone 4 versus the iPad. Thus, the higher voltage won't gain you anything there. So all you would be doing is forcing higher leakage (because now you've got a higher a higher potential on the gate and more voltage difference between transistors and bulk).

AFAIK, the voltage for the chipset in the iPad 2 didn't change from the iPad 1, so it seems likely that the battery is reporting a different voltage than what is actually being delivered to the chipset.

Consumed is a phrase for me, lol. That depends on the chipset in question or what the device is doing.

True the iPhone A5 might be slower, and that's why a lower voltage will do just fine. Leakage will be there regardless, although it'd be a more controlled one.

Probably the rated max voltage; however, actual used voltage might be lower. Still, same voltage might be used as in the iPhone 4. However, due to other (more marketing side reasons) the next iPhone might have a faster frequency and hence might have an increased voltage. I just wonder why Apple doesn't switch to Tri-Gate transistors...

 

[theevoid]

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Oh, almost forgot this!

HAHA +1

 

[pgiguere1]

Found this on Gizmodo:

The "larger speaker grille" is the older version of the aftermarket proximity sensor holes for the iPhone 4. That front on the left side of the shot is a third party white iPhone 4 digitizer/lcd assembly with the blue film over the back of the LCD.

The logic board screws into the midframe and the glass/LCD screws into the other side. There's no reason why anyone would have the phone put together like that without the frame in the middle.

This is a fake.

Can anyone with a bit of technical knowledge confirm?

Also, it's somewhat unrelated, but I found the best-looking mockup to date IMO:

All it would need is the Apple logo placed a bit higher and "iPhone" (and all that FCC stuff) written on the bottom and it's a perfect looking iPhone.

 

[Yumunum]

Found this on Gizmodo:


Can anyone with a bit of technical knowledge confirm?

Also, it's somewhat unrelated, but I found the best-looking mockup to date IMO:

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All it would need is the Apple logo placed a bit higher and "iPhone" (and all that FCC stuff) written on the bottom and it's a perfect looking iPhone.

It looks so beautiful...

 

[Geckotek]

My guess as to why we see an A5 board connected to what appears to be an old white iPhone 4 prototype face is that someone had an A5 logic board (spare part) and wanted to see if they could get it up and running so connected it to an old white iPhone 4 part they had.

Probably reaching...but just something to think about.

Edit: Hmmm....I'm being told the 5 is crooked...photoshopped.

 

[pgiguere1]

My guess as to why we see an A5 board connected to what appears to be an old white iPhone 4 prototype face is that someone had an A5 logic board (spare part) and wanted to see if they could get it up and running so connected it to an old white iPhone 4 part they had.

Probably reaching...but just something to think about.

I thought more about this:

Apple Seeding High-Level Gaming Developers With A5-Based iPhone 4s?

If those were supplied before the white iPhone 4 was officially out, that could explain what we're seeing in this picture.

EDIT: The white iPhone 4 started selling on April 28th. Those prototype devices (iPhone 4 with A5 processor) were apparently already seeded to developers on April 21th, meaning they probably were produced before the final version of the white iPhone 4, so it would make sense for it to have the older version of the proximity sensor, like the black version has and the white prototype ones had.

 

[Geckotek]

PERFECT! This lines up w/ what Chronic was saying.

I don't think it was photoshopped...the 5 is somewhat italicized, just like the pic in the link above from back in April.

 

[SockRolid]

New Apple map app -> high CPU requirements?

[...] If Apple does indeed release both an iPhone 4S and an iPhone 5, an A5 chip in the lower-level iPhone 4S would be a significant inclusion given that Apple has typically chosen to offer versions of its previous-generation models and technologies as its entry-level devices. [...]

Why would Apple want to put the new A5 in an older iPhone 4-based model?
I can think of two reasons:

1. Economy of scale. Producing an A5 chip for both the upgraded iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 means that they can amortize their development costs over a larger number of A5 units. Lower cost per unit.

2. Future iOS 5 updates may include apps that need much more processing power than the A4 can handle. It's been rumored for at least a year that Apple is working on their own mapping app. If it happens to have an augmented reality layer that uses the camera, processing requirements could be quite high. iPhone 4 might not be able to handle it gracefully.

 

[adildacoolset]

I imagine there will be a lot of disappointed people if iPhone 4S is THE iPhone for 2011.

Personally though, I wouldn't really mind an iPhone 4 shape for another year, it's really a fantastic design.

Very true. If the iPhone 5 had those designs from those case manufacturers, I would certainly miss this awesome design. I think it is the best design ever on phone. I'm also sure people can agree that there is not a single angle where the iPhone 4 doesn't look absolutely stunning. Enlarging that good design and making it slimmer with a 4" screen means that it would have the best exterior on the phone. If there is a redesign, I would truly miss this design.

 

[Fuchal]

Took me a minute to see what was going on here, but certainly does make a good circumstantial case for a bigger screen. +1 on this all day long.

LOL, fixed 'god.'

The display in the photo is actually the same size as the displays on the current iPhone 4. The inner part of the screen goes all the way to the edge. That's just a normal iPhone 4 display.

 

[MacinDoc]

So, either it's a prototype or it's this year's new iPhone. If it were intended to replace the entry-level 3GS, with another model with higher specs, that would be great, but I'm still doubtful. It might be harder to differentiate between models if they both had comparable performance.

 

[0x000000]

I'm hoping it's a notification LED.

They should make the home button a small display, so it can show like "1 Mail" or stuff like that.

 

[TM WAZZA]

Oh snap let's do it SAAAAN! invites tomorrow!

 

[Alvi]

First of all, I just really need an iPhone. So I don't really care if it will be a 4S or 5 but I want to stop reading this Rumor Tsunami.

Personally, I think that an iPhone 4 with a better processor, camera etc. would be great, but people outside the Apple Kool-Aid will not be happy about it since stuff like 4" Screens and Thinner phones are really big right now.

Why do I think that a 4S & 5 Lineup won't work? Unlocked or even on contract on many countries outside the US the difference between the 3GS and 4 is only about 100-200$ and nobody would be a sucker to buy an "old phone" even if the specs will be great.

Why will it work? Because the 3GS & 4 model kinda works, I know people that just got 3GSs for their kids or parents and they love it, but they could keep the Normal iPhone 4 and just decrease the Storage to 8GB (if needed economically for apple)

My last iPhone was a 3GS and i find the iPhone 4 extremely pretty and fresh compared to the rest of the market anyway.

 

[T-Will]

People, don't forget about the iPhone 5 icon in the Photostream. This is the most solid proof that a complete iPhone redesign is coming (at some point in the near future).